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07-14-2020, 03:24 AM - 6 Likes   #1
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Pentax Hyper-Program mode: now copied by Canon

I dont know if anyone realized that there is another thing that Canon copied from Pentax:

The Pentax original Hyper-Program mode, which Canon rebadged as "Fv-Mode" and which first appeared on the R.

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A downfall of traditional Program autoexposure is that if you suddenly want to firmly control any one of these, you really can’t, without stopping what you’re doing and switching to a different shooting mode. Again, this is tough to do quickly, with the camera at your eye.
But the Flexible-priority AE mode is different. You can turn the Quick Control Dial at the rear of the EOS R camera with your thumb, and each click moves a small orange icon adjacent to one of the primary settings in the viewfinder. Now, turn the Main Dial (the one near the shutter button) with your index finger — you’ll instantly be manually adjusting that particular setting. And, you’ll see the bold underline has disappeared, confirming that you’re now manually adjusting the setting in question.
Canon U.S.A., Inc. | What's New: Flexible-priority Shooting Mode on the Canon EOS R camera

Copycats.

07-14-2020, 03:57 AM - 1 Like   #2
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If you imagine you can do that with Pentax since the early 1990s...
07-14-2020, 05:28 AM - 4 Likes   #3
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Huh.... sounds like a pathetic implementation suitable for a low-end camera with only 1 e-dial.

The Pentax implementation is so much nicer on the K-1 -- no faffing about with a "quick" control dial, just use the e-dial associated with parameter. (On the K-1 with the function dial set to ISO, The setting dial hyper-P's the ISO, too.) And if you realize you want to reset to the P-mode values, just hit the green button.

Nice try, Canon, but you still lag Pentax on basic exposure controls.

P.S. I love how Canon said "some pros and advanced amateurs have resisted using P-mode" as if Canon is upset that some stubborn photographers refuse to let the Canon's software do everything for them.
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QuoteOriginally posted by yucafrita Quote
If you imagine you can do that with Pentax since the early 1990s...
Indeed. I used Hyper-P mode on my Z-1

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QuoteOriginally posted by photoptimist Quote
P.S. I love how Canon said "some pros and advanced amateurs have resisted using P-mode" as if Canon is upset that some stubborn photographers refuse to let the Canon's software do everything for them.
My favorite is:

QuoteOriginally posted by Canon, in the year 2018:
Canon engineers saw an opportunity here. Without losing any of the long-familiar exposure mode choices — the EOS R has P, Tv, Av, M, Bulb, and Scene Intelligent Auto (“green zone”) modes — they’ve added a new choice, and we’ll explain it in this article.
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QuoteOriginally posted by beholder3 Quote
I dont know if anyone realized that there is another thing that Canon copied from Pentax:

The Pentax original Hyper-Program mode, which Canon rebadged as "Fv-Mode" and which first appeared on the R.



Canon U.S.A., Inc. | What's New: Flexible-priority Shooting Mode on the Canon EOS R camera

Copycats.
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Does Canon not have a dial for each component of the exposure traingle?
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Does Canon not have a dial for each component of the exposure traingle?
I don't know, but the K1 does. Just set the customizable wheel to ISO.

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QuoteOriginally posted by MetalUndivided Quote
Does Canon not have a dial for each component of the exposure traingle?
On EOS R you have dials or buttons for:
1. ISO
2. Shutter speed
4. Aperture
5. Exposure compensation
6. Af-C to Af-S
7. Eye af (enable or disable it)

You can put ISO, exposure compensation, aperture or shutter speed on the RF lens rings also if you need one of the buttons/dials to do something else.

You can pretty much configure it as you want. More over, if you have 3-4-6 features that you often use (braketing, timelapse, etc.) and which are hiden in the menu, you can put them in the My menu button and will be available with a press of a button so that you won't need to dig for them in the entire menu.

Since I'm 95% of the time in Manual mode with Auto ISO enabled (T-AV mode in Pentax cameras) I use:

1. front wheel for shutter speed
2 back wheel for aperture
3. Af on button from the back for exposure compensation
4. The * button from the back is assigned to eye af (enable or disable it)
5. The zoom button from the back is for switching from Af-S to Af-C
6. The touch bar is dedicated to changing the af points (single, 5 af points, zone af, etc.).
7. The M-fn button near the shutter is for ISO (I think).

Pretty much the same was configured my 5D Mark IV also.
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