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pathdoc · 10-15-2020, 05:06 AM

Someone said something on YouTube:

You Tube

Listen from 2:26

Is there any substance to this, or is he just talking out of his nether orifice and hoping for a unicorn? He states in comments that he has a further video coming on this.

pschlute · 10-15-2020, 05:36 AM

Originally posted by pathdoc

Is there any substance to this

"A hint of a feeling" does not sound to have any substance at all.

Now it may be that because Pentax has made clear it is not going mirrorless, and they have emphasised the importance of the OVF, that he feels it would be nice if they did make a new film camera. I don't have a clue if there is enough demand to make it worth their while.

Mike.P® · 10-15-2020, 05:43 AM - **5 Likes**

I have a hint of a feeling I may win the lottery this weekend.

ZeljkoS · 10-15-2020, 05:49 AM - **2 Likes**

Stop everything, someone said something on Youtube

Not because of more views, honest

**boriscleto** · 10-15-2020, 06:01 AM - **1 Like**

Still waiting for that Reflex vaporware...

reh321 · 10-15-2020, 06:07 AM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by pschlute

"A hint of a feeling" does not sound to have any substance at all.

Now it may be that because Pentax has made clear it is not going mirrorless, and they have emphasised the importance of the OVF, that he feels it would be nice if they did make a new film camera. I don't have a clue if there is enough demand to make it worth their while.

I am quite certain there enough old cameras out there to sop up any demand.

bdery · 10-15-2020, 06:13 AM - **2 Likes**

A few photo news / commentary sites have started writing that they feel a modern film camera would be nice. Probably because instagramers have started purchasing vintage cameras to stage cuter photos.

Some people then realized a lot of K1000s were selling, and the logical conclusion was that Pentax should release a new one, and someone then said they would.

Le spationaute · 10-15-2020, 08:59 AM

This rumor is one year old. At least. I read about it first, while PENTAX was celebrating it's heritage and it's onehundredth birthday. Nothing has happened and I don't belive this will change. Why? A film-SLR would be an entirely new camera. It would have to be completely up-to-date as far as autofocus, autoexposure and even things like scene-detection are concerned. It would have to be fast and sturdy and reliable. Very few of those would sell. So it certainly would have to be be quite expensive. I' don't belive in that business-case.

sungibr · 10-15-2020, 09:43 AM

Just thinking:

Isn't there another rumor floatting around that said ricoh is planning a video centric DSLR camera?
What if the rumors was caught wrong, and started as a 'film centric camera"? Or a film SLR, but people just assumed it was obviously about a video DSLR?

Le spationaute · 10-15-2020, 10:36 AM - **1 Like**

No. Don't belive that. The second APS-C most probably is just a K-70-replacement.

**BigMackCam** · 10-15-2020, 03:39 PM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by sungibr

Just thinking:

Isn't there another rumor floatting around that said ricoh is planning a video centric DSLR camera?
What if the rumors was caught wrong, and started as a 'film centric camera"? Or a film SLR, but people just assumed it was obviously about a video DSLR?

Maybe both rumours are right and Ricoh is planning on developing a Pentax Super 8 cine camera...

stevebrot · 10-15-2020, 07:15 PM

Originally posted by sungibr

Isn't there another rumor floatting around that said ricoh is planning a video centric DSLR camera?

An anonymous tip during a slow rumor month...

Steve

Wasp · 10-16-2020, 02:33 AM - **2 Likes**

I find myself wondering what sort of new technology has been invented for DSLRs that can be transferred to a film SLR. In other words, what features will a brand new Pentax film camera have that a used MZ-S does not?

**BigMackCam** · 10-16-2020, 02:48 AM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by Wasp

I find myself wondering what sort of new technology has been invented for DSLRs that can be transferred to a film SLR. In other words, what features will a brand new Pentax film camera have that a used MZ-S does not?

Fully electronic aperture control, so it can utilise the latest D FA lenses... PDAF sensor and AF points as per (ideally, better than) the K-1 series... Up-to-date metering... ?

**pres589** · 10-16-2020, 05:11 AM

AF performance and metering as mentioned previously.

I've not spent any time with the MZ-S or really any film Pentax newer than my MX, so big grain of salt with this next bit; I think Pentax ergo's and general usability is way better in 2020 than it was in 2000 or 1990. It would be interesting to see what their current human factors engineers could do with a camera like the MZ-S today. Electronics have gotten much more capable while shrinking over the years. A camera like the LX or MX from a general layout standpoint, but with an LCD somewhere describing settings to the user, and then a few e-dials and such added to give f-stop control in-body, AF settings, etc etc.

10-15-2020, 08:59 AM	#8
Le spationaute New Member Join Date: Dec 2018 Posts: 12	This rumor is one year old. At least. I read about it first, while PENTAX was celebrating it's heritage and it's onehundredth birthday. Nothing has happened and I don't belive this will change. Why? A film-SLR would be an entirely new camera. It would have to be completely up-to-date as far as autofocus, autoexposure and even things like scene-detection are concerned. It would have to be fast and sturdy and reliable. Very few of those would sell. So it certainly would have to be be quite expensive. I' don't belive in that business-case. Last edited by Le spationaute; 10-15-2020 at 11:15 AM.

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10-15-2020, 05:36 AM	#2
pschlute Moderator Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Surrey, UK Photos: Gallery Posts: 8,219	Originally posted by pathdoc Is there any substance to this "A hint of a feeling" does not sound to have any substance at all. Now it may be that because Pentax has made clear it is not going mirrorless, and they have emphasised the importance of the OVF, that he feels it would be nice if they did make a new film camera. I don't have a clue if there is enough demand to make it worth their while.

10-15-2020, 05:43 AM - 5 Likes	#3
Mike.P® Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: New Milton, Hampshire, UK Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 2,154	I have a hint of a feeling I may win the lottery this weekend.

10-15-2020, 05:49 AM - 2 Likes	#4
ZeljkoS Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2014 Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 421	Stop everything, someone said something on Youtube Not because of more views, honest

10-15-2020, 06:01 AM - 1 Like	#5
boriscleto Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: North Syracuse, NY Photos: Gallery Posts: 16,477	Still waiting for that Reflex vaporware...

10-15-2020, 06:07 AM - 1 Like	#6
reh321 Pentaxian Join Date: Nov 2014 Location: South Bend, IN, USA Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 23,185	Originally posted by pschlute "A hint of a feeling" does not sound to have any substance at all. Now it may be that because Pentax has made clear it is not going mirrorless, and they have emphasised the importance of the OVF, that he feels it would be nice if they did make a new film camera. I don't have a clue if there is enough demand to make it worth their while. I am quite certain there enough old cameras out there to sop up any demand.

10-15-2020, 06:13 AM - 2 Likes	#7
bdery Pentaxian Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Quebec city, Canada Photos: Gallery Posts: 9,363	A few photo news / commentary sites have started writing that they feel a modern film camera would be nice. Probably because instagramers have started purchasing vintage cameras to stage cuter photos. Some people then realized a lot of K1000s were selling, and the logical conclusion was that Pentax should release a new one, and someone then said they would.

10-15-2020, 09:43 AM	#9
sungibr Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Sao Paulo Photos: Albums Posts: 149	Just thinking: Isn't there another rumor floatting around that said ricoh is planning a video centric DSLR camera? What if the rumors was caught wrong, and started as a 'film centric camera"? Or a film SLR, but people just assumed it was obviously about a video DSLR?

10-15-2020, 10:36 AM - 1 Like	#10
Le spationaute New Member Join Date: Dec 2018 Posts: 12	No. Don't belive that. The second APS-C most probably is just a K-70-replacement.

10-15-2020, 03:39 PM - 1 Like	#11
BigMackCam Digitiser of Film Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: North East of England Posts: 20,704	Originally posted by sungibr Just thinking: Isn't there another rumor floatting around that said ricoh is planning a video centric DSLR camera? What if the rumors was caught wrong, and started as a 'film centric camera"? Or a film SLR, but people just assumed it was obviously about a video DSLR? Maybe both rumours are right and Ricoh is planning on developing a Pentax Super 8 cine camera...

10-15-2020, 07:15 PM	#12
stevebrot Otis Memorial Pentaxian Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Vancouver (USA) Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 42,007	Originally posted by sungibr Isn't there another rumor floatting around that said ricoh is planning a video centric DSLR camera? An anonymous tip during a slow rumor month... Steve

10-16-2020, 02:33 AM - 2 Likes	#13
Wasp Pentaxian Join Date: Mar 2017 Location: Pretoria Photos: Gallery Posts: 4,663	I find myself wondering what sort of new technology has been invented for DSLRs that can be transferred to a film SLR. In other words, what features will a brand new Pentax film camera have that a used MZ-S does not?

10-16-2020, 02:48 AM - 1 Like	#14
BigMackCam Digitiser of Film Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: North East of England Posts: 20,704	Originally posted by Wasp I find myself wondering what sort of new technology has been invented for DSLRs that can be transferred to a film SLR. In other words, what features will a brand new Pentax film camera have that a used MZ-S does not? Fully electronic aperture control, so it can utilise the latest D FA lenses... PDAF sensor and AF points as per (ideally, better than) the K-1 series... Up-to-date metering... ?

10-16-2020, 05:11 AM	#15
pres589 Site Supporter Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: Wichita, KS Photos: Albums Posts: 4,533	AF performance and metering as mentioned previously. I've not spent any time with the MZ-S or really any film Pentax newer than my MX, so big grain of salt with this next bit; I think Pentax ergo's and general usability is way better in 2020 than it was in 2000 or 1990. It would be interesting to see what their current human factors engineers could do with a camera like the MZ-S today. Electronics have gotten much more capable while shrinking over the years. A camera like the LX or MX from a general layout standpoint, but with an LCD somewhere describing settings to the user, and then a few e-dials and such added to give f-stop control in-body, AF settings, etc etc.

Wild rumour/wish fulfillment fantasy about new Pentax film camera?????

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