New Taxes on Imports from Vietnam

bladerunner6 · 12-21-2020, 05:44 PM

Trump's final trade jab may be tariffs on Vietnamese goods: experts

Given Pentax’s lenses are from Vietnam it is conceivable this could impact their pricing.

**AgentL** · 12-21-2020, 05:46 PM

Ouch, a lot of production has moved to Vietnam recently, Ricoh moved the GR III there.

bladerunner6 · 12-21-2020, 05:51 PM

Originally posted by AgentL

Ouch, a lot of production has moved to Vietnam recently, Ricoh moved the GR III there.

Vietnam has been a winner in the US-China trade war. It looks like they might be punished for it.

**ramseybuckeye** · 12-21-2020, 06:06 PM

Interesting development. With Trump leaving office maybe they will be cancelled, or short lived. But normally when politicians attack anything their predecessor did they ignore it once in office. Tariffs generally do nothing but raise consumer prices.

**DWS1** · 12-21-2020, 06:08 PM

That's all we need , higher prices.

automorphism · 12-21-2020, 06:25 PM

Ah, I detest tariffs

**luftfluss** · 12-21-2020, 06:38 PM

There are ways to take the teeth out of tariffs without actually repealing them, so maybe that's what will happen under the new administration.

Belcik · 12-22-2020, 08:12 AM

Ouch, my condolences.

keos · 12-24-2020, 01:55 AM

crap. guess my hope of a price drop on the 150-450mm goes out the window.

**ffking** · 12-24-2020, 03:03 AM

Imported from Vietnam or made in Vietnam? I'm sure a Japanese company could find a way round it if the former.

**gaweidert** · 01-05-2021, 01:53 PM

Originally posted by automorphism

Ah, I detest tariffs

I do too, but that has to exist both ways.

**gaweidert** · 01-05-2021, 01:56 PM

Originally posted by ffking

Imported from Vietnam or made in Vietnam? I'm sure a Japanese company could find a way round it if the former.

When Kodak had it's 35mm consumer cameras made in China in the 1990's there was another camera line right next to it. The cameras were all being stamped "Made in Japan". The Japanese had a very lose definition of what that statement really meant. Basically as long as they had control over the assembly line the "Made in Japan" label could be applied.

Wheatfield · 01-05-2021, 02:26 PM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by gaweidert

When Kodak had it's 35mm consumer cameras made in China in the 1990's there was another camera line right next to it. The cameras were all being stamped "Made in Japan". The Japanese had a very lose definition of what that statement really meant. Basically as long as they had control over the assembly line the "Made in Japan" label could be applied.

The Japanese might have a lose definition, but don't count on that to be applied in other countries.

Some years ago, I bought a film changing tent from Calumet that was advertised by them as "Made in the USA". When it crossed the border into Canada, it turned out that while the product had been sewn at an American factory, the textiles to produce the tent had been sourced from China. Consequently, a fairly steep tariff was applied, as while both Canada and the USA had ratified NAFTA, we didn't have a similar agreement with China.

I don't know if it's still this way, but for the longest time, a company was importing men's shirts into Canada from India, and was allowed to put a "Made in Canada" tag onto it because the buttons were sewn on in Toronto.

The world on international tariffs is a very weird one.

SharkyCA · 01-12-2021, 07:33 AM

Originally posted by Wheatfield

The Japanese might have a lose definition, but don't count on that to be applied in other countries.

Some years ago, I bought a film changing tent from Calumet that was advertised by them as "Made in the USA". When it crossed the border into Canada, it turned out that while the product had been sewn at an American factory, the textiles to produce the tent had been sourced from China. Consequently, a fairly steep tariff was applied, as while both Canada and the USA had ratified NAFTA, we didn't have a similar agreement with China.

I don't know if it's still this way, but for the longest time, a company was importing men's shirts into Canada from India, and was allowed to put a "Made in Canada" tag onto it because the buttons were sewn on in Toronto.

The world on international tariffs is a very weird one.

For my Canadian friends I'm just going to offer up this link here, has info on trade/duty on photo gear prices sorted from the web!
Photography, Digital Camera, Lens Price Comparisons for Canada - photoprice.ca
Duty: Special Tax on Imports
Duty is often misunderstood. Also known as a tariff, it's a special kind of tax that you pay to the Canadian government when you import goods. Duties can be imposed to help protect local industry (making it more difficult for foreign manufacturers to compete with Canadian manufacturers). Duty rates can vary from 0% (duty free) to 20%, depending on the type of goods. Most photographic equipment is duty free, when imported from most countries, including the States. This means you pay no duty! This includes most products such as SLR and point-and-shoot cameras and lenses. For other goods, check out the Canadian Border Services Website. You can also check out our list of Duties on Photography Equipment for a complete list of photography equipment duties.

Want to be extra sure? You can call the Canadian Border Information Service Hotline and ask an agent specifically about the duty on a particular item. The phone number is 1-800-461-9999.

12-21-2020, 05:44 PM	#1
bladerunner6 Pentaxian Join Date: Nov 2014 Photos: Albums Posts: 2,080	New Taxes on Imports from Vietnam Trump's final trade jab may be tariffs on Vietnamese goods: experts Given Pentax’s lenses are from Vietnam it is conceivable this could impact their pricing.

01-12-2021, 07:33 AM	#14
SharkyCA Pentaxian Join Date: Sep 2017 Location: Carleton Place, Ontario, Canada Photos: Gallery Posts: 806	Originally posted by Wheatfield The Japanese might have a lose definition, but don't count on that to be applied in other countries. Some years ago, I bought a film changing tent from Calumet that was advertised by them as "Made in the USA". When it crossed the border into Canada, it turned out that while the product had been sewn at an American factory, the textiles to produce the tent had been sourced from China. Consequently, a fairly steep tariff was applied, as while both Canada and the USA had ratified NAFTA, we didn't have a similar agreement with China. I don't know if it's still this way, but for the longest time, a company was importing men's shirts into Canada from India, and was allowed to put a "Made in Canada" tag onto it because the buttons were sewn on in Toronto. The world on international tariffs is a very weird one. For my Canadian friends I'm just going to offer up this link here, has info on trade/duty on photo gear prices sorted from the web! Photography, Digital Camera, Lens Price Comparisons for Canada - photoprice.ca Duty: Special Tax on Imports Duty is often misunderstood. Also known as a tariff, it's a special kind of tax that you pay to the Canadian government when you import goods. Duties can be imposed to help protect local industry (making it more difficult for foreign manufacturers to compete with Canadian manufacturers). Duty rates can vary from 0% (duty free) to 20%, depending on the type of goods. Most photographic equipment is duty free, when imported from most countries, including the States. This means you pay no duty! This includes most products such as SLR and point-and-shoot cameras and lenses. For other goods, check out the Canadian Border Services Website. You can also check out our list of Duties on Photography Equipment for a complete list of photography equipment duties. Want to be extra sure? You can call the Canadian Border Information Service Hotline and ask an agent specifically about the duty on a particular item. The phone number is 1-800-461-9999. Last edited by SharkyCA; 01-12-2021 at 10:33 PM. Reason: Adding info on Canadian taxes\duty

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AgentL Site Supporter Join Date: Sep 2020 Location: Seattle Photos: Albums Posts: 1,756	Ouch, a lot of production has moved to Vietnam recently, Ricoh moved the GR III there.

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bladerunner6 Pentaxian Join Date: Nov 2014 Photos: Albums Posts: 2,080 Original Poster	Originally posted by AgentL Ouch, a lot of production has moved to Vietnam recently, Ricoh moved the GR III there. Vietnam has been a winner in the US-China trade war. It looks like they might be punished for it.

12-21-2020, 06:06 PM	#4
ramseybuckeye Site Supporter Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Hampstead, NC Photos: Gallery Posts: 17,291	Interesting development. With Trump leaving office maybe they will be cancelled, or short lived. But normally when politicians attack anything their predecessor did they ignore it once in office. Tariffs generally do nothing but raise consumer prices.

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DWS1 Site Supporter Join Date: Aug 2018 Location: Arkansas, USA Posts: 1,169	That's all we need , higher prices.

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automorphism Veteran Member Join Date: Jun 2015 Location: Ontario, Canada Photos: Albums Posts: 791	Ah, I detest tariffs

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luftfluss Site Supporter Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: NJ Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 11,619	There are ways to take the teeth out of tariffs without actually repealing them, so maybe that's what will happen under the new administration.

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ffking Site Supporter Join Date: Nov 2015 Location: Old South Wales Posts: 6,038	Imported from Vietnam or made in Vietnam? I'm sure a Japanese company could find a way round it if the former.

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01-05-2021, 01:56 PM	#12
gaweidert Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Rochester, NY Photos: Gallery Posts: 5,325	Originally posted by ffking Imported from Vietnam or made in Vietnam? I'm sure a Japanese company could find a way round it if the former. When Kodak had it's 35mm consumer cameras made in China in the 1990's there was another camera line right next to it. The cameras were all being stamped "Made in Japan". The Japanese had a very lose definition of what that statement really meant. Basically as long as they had control over the assembly line the "Made in Japan" label could be applied.

01-05-2021, 02:26 PM - 1 Like	#13
Wheatfield Moderator Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: The wheatfields of Canada Posts: 15,981	Originally posted by gaweidert When Kodak had it's 35mm consumer cameras made in China in the 1990's there was another camera line right next to it. The cameras were all being stamped "Made in Japan". The Japanese had a very lose definition of what that statement really meant. Basically as long as they had control over the assembly line the "Made in Japan" label could be applied. The Japanese might have a lose definition, but don't count on that to be applied in other countries. Some years ago, I bought a film changing tent from Calumet that was advertised by them as "Made in the USA". When it crossed the border into Canada, it turned out that while the product had been sewn at an American factory, the textiles to produce the tent had been sourced from China. Consequently, a fairly steep tariff was applied, as while both Canada and the USA had ratified NAFTA, we didn't have a similar agreement with China. I don't know if it's still this way, but for the longest time, a company was importing men's shirts into Canada from India, and was allowed to put a "Made in Canada" tag onto it because the buttons were sewn on in Toronto. The world on international tariffs is a very weird one.