Let's have a survey!

**Yoda boy** · 05-18-2021, 02:28 PM

There has been a fair bit of speculation as to what the next new Pentax lens will be after the DA* 16-50 PLM. I was thinking that it might be interesting to do a survey of Pentax Forum members to see what lenses they would like to see next. The results might be of some interest to Ricoh in Japan. The people who read the Pentax Forums are likely the best source of new purchases of Pentax product so asking them what they might like might make sense.

Also, there was talk some time ago about a FF teleconverter but I have head of nothing recently. This seems to make sense to me since the FF lens lineup has increased in volume sufficient to make this a viable add on. Or, perhaps teleconverters do not sell in sufficient quantities as to be a priority item.

angerdan · 05-18-2021, 02:55 PM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by Yoda boy

There has been a fair bit of speculation as to what the next new Pentax lens will be after the DA* 16-50 PLM.

The lens roadmap is clear, here are not many choices.

Pentax K-mount Lens Roadmap Archive (from 2005 on) - PentaxForums.com
New K-Mount Roadmap - Feb 2021 - PentaxForums.com
Lens Roadmap 2020 June - PentaxForums.com
Updated Roadmap - May 2020 - PentaxForums.com

Originally posted by Yoda boy

I was thinking that it might be interesting to do a survey of Pentax Forum members to see what lenses they would like to see next. The results might be of some interest to Ricoh in Japan. The people who read the Pentax Forums are likely the best source of new purchases of Pentax product so asking them what they might like might make sense.

There had been several surveys in the recent years. So why another one?
Pentax prime lens wishlist survey 2018 - PentaxForums.com
Zoom survey lens list input collection - PentaxForums.com
2018 Pentax K-mount DSLR User Survey - PentaxForums.com
Ricoh Japan FF Camera Market Survey - PentaxForums.com
new ricoh survey - PentaxForums.com
New RICOH IMAGING K-mount Lens Survey - PentaxForums.com

Originally posted by Yoda boy

Also, there was talk some time ago about a FF teleconverter but I have head of nothing recently.

There's a dedicated thread about the TC, so why creating a separe one?
FF TC - full frame teleconverter - PentaxForums.com

stevebrot · 05-18-2021, 04:39 PM

Originally posted by Yoda boy

There has been a fair bit of speculation as to what the next new Pentax lens will be after the DA* 16-50 PLM.

That is pretty clear...D FA 21 Limited.

Steve

mee · 05-18-2021, 05:00 PM

We did this once, it didn't go anywhere it seems.

**ramseybuckeye** · 05-18-2021, 05:53 PM

Ah, but they do occasionally throw a surprise in there, but Steve is correct with the DFA 21.

**clickclick** · 05-18-2021, 07:15 PM

Looking forward to a fast wide prime.

leekil · 05-18-2021, 07:43 PM

Originally posted by angerdan

The lens roadmap is clear, here are not many choices.

Other than the HD refreshes of FA lenses, which don't seem to appear there?

JPT · 05-18-2021, 09:10 PM - **1 Like**

I think this is a valid question because only about half of what Ricoh released in the past few years were on the roadmap beforehand. Especially in APS-C, most of what they might introduce would overlap with existing products, so it does not make much sense to announce them too far in advance.

Of things not on the roadmap, the ones that would make most sense to me are for DA:
- A PLM/HD remake of the DA 18-135
- A variable aperture wide angle zoom (because the only things current are the expensive DA* 11-18/2.8 and the DA 10-17 fisheye) - A fairly recent Tamron is available for rebranding
- DA Limited tele zoom (Since the 20-40 zoom has been a good seller)
- A PLM remake of the 50-135/2.8 (to complete a modernized trio of f2.8 zooms)

For DFA (aside from what is on the roadmap)
- A variable aperture wide angle zoom - There is also a Tamron candidate for rebranding
- Something like a 24-120/4 mid-range zoom
- Renewed versions of the 200/2.8 and 300/4 with better motors and official DFA status
- A DFA limited zoom - if the concept sells on APS-C, it could work on FF
- I also like the idea of and samples from the Tamron 35-150/2.8-4 and think that would be an interesting one to rebrand

cport · 05-19-2021, 01:15 AM

DA* 24/1,4 (or something similar in about 18-24mm).

**fs999** · 05-19-2021, 05:39 AM

Originally posted by cport

DA* 24/1,4 (or something similar in about 18-24mm).

DFA 21mm F1.8 Limited is ok for me

**MossyRocks** · 05-19-2021, 08:31 AM

Sounds like a place to dream about things we'll never see.
In that vein I suggest a modern D FA * 200/4 ED [IF] WR Macro since I'll likely never get the FA 200/4 ED [IF] Macro.

**Sakura** · 05-19-2021, 11:49 AM

I really miss a good FF alternative for my DA* 16-50. There is nothing in this range up to now.

stevebrot · 05-19-2021, 01:40 PM

Originally posted by JPT

I think this is a valid question because only about half of what Ricoh released in the past few years were on the roadmap beforehand.

Ooooo...Kkkkkaaaa...in the spirit of that note I am pretty sure they are on the cusp of announcing both HD D FA 135/2.8 and HD D FA 28/2.8 quality consumer primes.

Steve

angerdan · 05-20-2021, 01:06 AM

Originally posted by Sakura

I really miss a good FF alternative for my DA* 16-50. There is nothing in this range up to now.

You'd miss the HD D FA 24-70mm:

HD Pentax-D FA 24-70mm F2.8 ED SDM WR Reviews - D FA Zoom Lenses - Pentax Lens Reviews & Lens Database
HD Pentax-D FA 24-70mm F2.8 ED SDM WR Review - Introduction | PentaxForums.com Reviews

05-18-2021, 02:28 PM	#1
Yoda boy Site Supporter Join Date: May 2015 Location: Central Ontario Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 144	Let's have a survey! There has been a fair bit of speculation as to what the next new Pentax lens will be after the DA* 16-50 PLM. I was thinking that it might be interesting to do a survey of Pentax Forum members to see what lenses they would like to see next. The results might be of some interest to Ricoh in Japan. The people who read the Pentax Forums are likely the best source of new purchases of Pentax product so asking them what they might like might make sense. Also, there was talk some time ago about a FF teleconverter but I have head of nothing recently. This seems to make sense to me since the FF lens lineup has increased in volume sufficient to make this a viable add on. Or, perhaps teleconverters do not sell in sufficient quantities as to be a priority item.

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05-18-2021, 02:55 PM - 1 Like	#2
angerdan Pentaxian Join Date: Feb 2015 Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 2,643	Originally posted by Yoda boy There has been a fair bit of speculation as to what the next new Pentax lens will be after the DA* 16-50 PLM. The lens roadmap is clear, here are not many choices. Pentax K-mount Lens Roadmap Archive (from 2005 on) - PentaxForums.com New K-Mount Roadmap - Feb 2021 - PentaxForums.com Lens Roadmap 2020 June - PentaxForums.com Updated Roadmap - May 2020 - PentaxForums.com Originally posted by Yoda boy I was thinking that it might be interesting to do a survey of Pentax Forum members to see what lenses they would like to see next. The results might be of some interest to Ricoh in Japan. The people who read the Pentax Forums are likely the best source of new purchases of Pentax product so asking them what they might like might make sense. There had been several surveys in the recent years. So why another one? Pentax prime lens wishlist survey 2018 - PentaxForums.com Zoom survey lens list input collection - PentaxForums.com 2018 Pentax K-mount DSLR User Survey - PentaxForums.com Ricoh Japan FF Camera Market Survey - PentaxForums.com new ricoh survey - PentaxForums.com New RICOH IMAGING K-mount Lens Survey - PentaxForums.com Originally posted by Yoda boy Also, there was talk some time ago about a FF teleconverter but I have head of nothing recently. There's a dedicated thread about the TC, so why creating a separe one? FF TC - full frame teleconverter - PentaxForums.com

05-18-2021, 04:39 PM	#3
stevebrot Otis Memorial Pentaxian Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Vancouver (USA) Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 42,007	Originally posted by Yoda boy There has been a fair bit of speculation as to what the next new Pentax lens will be after the DA* 16-50 PLM. That is pretty clear...D FA 21 Limited. Steve

05-18-2021, 05:00 PM	#4
mee Veteran Member Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 7,403	We did this once, it didn't go anywhere it seems.

05-18-2021, 05:53 PM	#5
ramseybuckeye Site Supporter Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Hampstead, NC Photos: Gallery Posts: 17,295	Ah, but they do occasionally throw a surprise in there, but Steve is correct with the DFA 21.

05-18-2021, 07:15 PM	#6
clickclick Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: May 2016 Location: East Coast Posts: 2,904	Looking forward to a fast wide prime.

05-18-2021, 07:43 PM	#7
leekil Pentaxian Join Date: May 2016 Photos: Albums Posts: 2,003	Originally posted by angerdan The lens roadmap is clear, here are not many choices. Other than the HD refreshes of FA lenses, which don't seem to appear there?

05-18-2021, 09:10 PM - 1 Like	#8
JPT Pentaxian Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Tokyo Photos: Gallery Posts: 2,821	I think this is a valid question because only about half of what Ricoh released in the past few years were on the roadmap beforehand. Especially in APS-C, most of what they might introduce would overlap with existing products, so it does not make much sense to announce them too far in advance. Of things not on the roadmap, the ones that would make most sense to me are for DA: - A PLM/HD remake of the DA 18-135 - A variable aperture wide angle zoom (because the only things current are the expensive DA* 11-18/2.8 and the DA 10-17 fisheye) - A fairly recent Tamron is available for rebranding - DA Limited tele zoom (Since the 20-40 zoom has been a good seller) - A PLM remake of the 50-135/2.8 (to complete a modernized trio of f2.8 zooms) For DFA (aside from what is on the roadmap) - A variable aperture wide angle zoom - There is also a Tamron candidate for rebranding - Something like a 24-120/4 mid-range zoom - Renewed versions of the 200/2.8 and 300/4 with better motors and official DFA status - A DFA limited zoom - if the concept sells on APS-C, it could work on FF - I also like the idea of and samples from the Tamron 35-150/2.8-4 and think that would be an interesting one to rebrand

05-19-2021, 01:15 AM	#9
cport Pentaxian Join Date: Jan 2013 Posts: 428	DA* 24/1,4 (or something similar in about 18-24mm).

05-19-2021, 05:39 AM	#10
fs999 Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Luxembourg Photos: Gallery Posts: 8,646	Originally posted by cport DA* 24/1,4 (or something similar in about 18-24mm). DFA 21mm F1.8 Limited is ok for me

05-19-2021, 08:31 AM	#11
MossyRocks Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Nov 2017 Location: Minnesota Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 2,982	Sounds like a place to dream about things we'll never see. In that vein I suggest a modern D FA * 200/4 ED [IF] WR Macro since I'll likely never get the FA 200/4 ED [IF] Macro.

05-19-2021, 11:49 AM	#12
Sakura Site Supporter Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Netherlands Photos: Gallery Posts: 438	I really miss a good FF alternative for my DA* 16-50. There is nothing in this range up to now.

05-19-2021, 01:40 PM	#13
stevebrot Otis Memorial Pentaxian Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Vancouver (USA) Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 42,007	Originally posted by JPT I think this is a valid question because only about half of what Ricoh released in the past few years were on the roadmap beforehand. Ooooo...Kkkkkaaaa...in the spirit of that note I am pretty sure they are on the cusp of announcing both HD D FA 135/2.8 and HD D FA 28/2.8 quality consumer primes. Steve

05-20-2021, 01:06 AM	#14
angerdan Pentaxian Join Date: Feb 2015 Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 2,643	Originally posted by Sakura I really miss a good FF alternative for my DA* 16-50. There is nothing in this range up to now. You'd miss the HD D FA 24-70mm: HD Pentax-D FA 24-70mm F2.8 ED SDM WR Reviews - D FA Zoom Lenses - Pentax Lens Reviews & Lens Database HD Pentax-D FA 24-70mm F2.8 ED SDM WR Review - Introduction \| PentaxForums.com Reviews