K-01 problems!!

Catalana · 02-02-2012, 04:27 AM

Well, I just got done looking at some high rez images, and several of them show the inside of what once used to be the mirror box.
The sensor is in plain view, but I could not see anything relating to a shutter curtain. The specs at B&H do mention "fast Shutter" actuation,
so it seems to have a shutter, but is it electronic or conventional? Otherwise, I would assume that folks buying into this system will deal with
a lot of dust bunnies and contamination. Will have to wait and see...

Ed n Georgia · 02-02-2012, 04:42 AM

Well, gee. It only does 6FPS. It needs at least 50FPS.

kadajawi · 02-02-2012, 04:57 AM

Originally posted by Alizarine

Does this mean it's actually positioned below DSLRs and above P&S, sort of a full-manual...compact ILC? Like a Canon G-series with interchangeable? Or more of like direct competition for the Nikon CX format and M4/3?

Coz if it sits above the K-r (or its future replacement) for example... it makes the lineup really weird.

Many ILCs are priced above entry level DSLRs. Especially full-manual ones (such as the X1 Pro) are very expensive... I think that one is in FF territory. Olympus is also preparing something like that it seems, and it is said to be top of the range.

konraDarnok · 02-02-2012, 05:13 AM

That's what I would have done.

macTak · 02-02-2012, 05:18 AM

Strap doesn't make it clear enough what brand the camera is.

ogl · 02-02-2012, 05:32 AM

Give PEF, please. I don't use DNG, because I use C1Pro.

hoanpham · 02-02-2012, 05:42 AM

ever try to focus K50/1.2 using lcd on a nex?
After many hrs training, success rate increased from 2% to 6-10%

Tried with K85/1.8 using lcd to focus: success rate is <2% after days of training

when paired with AF lenses, this K01 might be very good, but paired with MF lenses?
I don't know what to say....

You may need to change eye glasses as well...

Docrwm · 02-02-2012, 05:45 AM

The pluses are that it has SR and will work with ALL K-Mount lenses per the official specs. However, they trimmed the functions available significantly:

"The K-01 unfortunately seems to have lost Sv and TAv modes, two popular modes found on higher-end Pentax DSLRs in which you set the sensitivity and the camera does the rest, and you set the shutter speed and aperture and the camera sets the sensitivity, respectively. A few K-5 features, such as 2-5 frame bracketing and EV shifts of up to 5, have been excluded as well, hinting at what target audience this camera is aimed for."

JinDesu · 02-02-2012, 05:48 AM

Originally posted by Catalana

Well, I just got done looking at some high rez images, and several of them show the inside of what once used to be the mirror box.
The sensor is in plain view, but I could not see anything relating to a shutter curtain. The specs at B&H do mention "fast Shutter" actuation,
so it seems to have a shutter, but is it electronic or conventional? Otherwise, I would assume that folks buying into this system will deal with
a lot of dust bunnies and contamination. Will have to wait and see...

It has a shutter. See The Camera Store's video of it - upon activating the shutter button, you see the shutter cut across the sensor.

kadajawi · 02-02-2012, 05:54 AM

This: Pentax announces K-01 K-mount APS-C mirrorless camera: Digital Photography Review

Really it doesn't seem to be much smaller than the K-5. Yes, it's 1/2 the price, but apart from the video feature (which looks tempting) it's 1/2 the camera. Better save a bit longer and buy the K-5 or its successor.

Docrwm · 02-02-2012, 06:00 AM

In the video the guys from the Camera store clearly don't like the styling at all but keep positive about the features.

What I noticed in the video is that the shots of the camera on dolly show it with LOTS of white specs - just like the silicon sleeves for my old cell phones that I hated so much. Problem is that the rubberized exterior on this is not removable

JCPentax · 02-02-2012, 06:02 AM

The K-01 does have focus peaking. In the pre-production units it works pretty well.

Catalana · 02-02-2012, 06:22 AM

It is nice to see they've maintained battery compatibility by re-using the D-Li90. That may have contributed to the thickness of the body (in conjunction with the large sensor).
But for the new lenses to not work on the DSLR's is a shame. I would have preferred an expansion of their regular DA line-up. They could have just as easily used the DA 35/F2.4
as a kit lens. It would have made the K-01 look better in their release shots as well. OK, that's a personal opinion...

LaRee · 02-02-2012, 06:39 AM

I absolutely LOVE that the battery is the same as the k-5. If the reviews are good and the users like this camera, I'm sure I'll add it to my collection of *stds, k-10, k-20, k-x and k-5!

eddie1960 · 02-02-2012, 06:42 AM

Originally posted by Catalana

It is nice to see they've maintained battery compatibility by re-using the D-Li90. That may have contributed to the thickness of the body (in conjunction with the large sensor).
But for the new lenses to not work on the DSLR's is a shame. I would have preferred an expansion of their regular DA line-up. They could have just as easily used the DA 35/F2.4
as a kit lens. It would have made the K-01 look better in their release shots as well. OK, that's a personal opinion...

the new lenses do work on DSLR, and will sell for $249 separately apparently when it's released on it's own

PENTAX - smc PENTAX-DA 40mm F2.8 XS Lens

based on this if they do a 21 and 70 variant they would likely sell for 300-350 or so, which would give the trio maybe a 999 set price. or a special edition of the camera with all 3 for christmas say with a price of 1699 or less.

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02-02-2012, 04:27 AM	#46
Catalana Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: California Posts: 190	Well, I just got done looking at some high rez images, and several of them show the inside of what once used to be the mirror box. The sensor is in plain view, but I could not see anything relating to a shutter curtain. The specs at B&H do mention "fast Shutter" actuation, so it seems to have a shutter, but is it electronic or conventional? Otherwise, I would assume that folks buying into this system will deal with a lot of dust bunnies and contamination. Will have to wait and see...

02-02-2012, 04:42 AM	#47
Ed n Georgia Veteran Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Georgia Posts: 940	Well, gee. It only does 6FPS. It needs at least 50FPS.

02-02-2012, 04:57 AM	#48
kadajawi Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Posts: 2,799	Originally posted by Alizarine Does this mean it's actually positioned below DSLRs and above P&S, sort of a full-manual...compact ILC? Like a Canon G-series with interchangeable? Or more of like direct competition for the Nikon CX format and M4/3? Coz if it sits above the K-r (or its future replacement) for example... it makes the lineup really weird. Many ILCs are priced above entry level DSLRs. Especially full-manual ones (such as the X1 Pro) are very expensive... I think that one is in FF territory. Olympus is also preparing something like that it seems, and it is said to be top of the range.

02-02-2012, 05:13 AM	#49
konraDarnok Veteran Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Photos: Albums Posts: 969	That's what I would have done.

02-02-2012, 05:18 AM	#50
macTak Veteran Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Photos: Gallery Posts: 759	Strap doesn't make it clear enough what brand the camera is.

02-02-2012, 05:32 AM	#51
ogl Banned Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Sankt Peterburg Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 8,382	Give PEF, please. I don't use DNG, because I use C1Pro.

02-02-2012, 05:42 AM	#52
hoanpham Veteran Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Strand Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 1,366	ever try to focus K50/1.2 using lcd on a nex? After many hrs training, success rate increased from 2% to 6-10% Tried with K85/1.8 using lcd to focus: success rate is <2% after days of training when paired with AF lenses, this K01 might be very good, but paired with MF lenses? I don't know what to say.... You may need to change eye glasses as well...

02-02-2012, 05:45 AM	#53
Docrwm Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Somewhere in the Southern US Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 12,285	The pluses are that it has SR and will work with ALL K-Mount lenses per the official specs. However, they trimmed the functions available significantly: "The K-01 unfortunately seems to have lost Sv and TAv modes, two popular modes found on higher-end Pentax DSLRs in which you set the sensitivity and the camera does the rest, and you set the shutter speed and aperture and the camera sets the sensitivity, respectively. A few K-5 features, such as 2-5 frame bracketing and EV shifts of up to 5, have been excluded as well, hinting at what target audience this camera is aimed for."

02-02-2012, 05:48 AM	#54
JinDesu Veteran Member Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: New York City Photos: Gallery Posts: 5,638	Originally posted by Catalana Well, I just got done looking at some high rez images, and several of them show the inside of what once used to be the mirror box. The sensor is in plain view, but I could not see anything relating to a shutter curtain. The specs at B&H do mention "fast Shutter" actuation, so it seems to have a shutter, but is it electronic or conventional? Otherwise, I would assume that folks buying into this system will deal with a lot of dust bunnies and contamination. Will have to wait and see... It has a shutter. See The Camera Store's video of it - upon activating the shutter button, you see the shutter cut across the sensor.

02-02-2012, 05:54 AM	#55
kadajawi Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Posts: 2,799	This: Pentax announces K-01 K-mount APS-C mirrorless camera: Digital Photography Review Really it doesn't seem to be much smaller than the K-5. Yes, it's 1/2 the price, but apart from the video feature (which looks tempting) it's 1/2 the camera. Better save a bit longer and buy the K-5 or its successor.

02-02-2012, 06:00 AM	#56
Docrwm Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Somewhere in the Southern US Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 12,285	In the video the guys from the Camera store clearly don't like the styling at all but keep positive about the features. What I noticed in the video is that the shots of the camera on dolly show it with LOTS of white specs - just like the silicon sleeves for my old cell phones that I hated so much. Problem is that the rubberized exterior on this is not removable

02-02-2012, 06:02 AM	#57
JCPentax Inactive Account Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Colorado Posts: 146	The K-01 does have focus peaking. In the pre-production units it works pretty well.

02-02-2012, 06:22 AM	#58
Catalana Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: California Posts: 190	It is nice to see they've maintained battery compatibility by re-using the D-Li90. That may have contributed to the thickness of the body (in conjunction with the large sensor). But for the new lenses to not work on the DSLR's is a shame. I would have preferred an expansion of their regular DA line-up. They could have just as easily used the DA 35/F2.4 as a kit lens. It would have made the K-01 look better in their release shots as well. OK, that's a personal opinion...

02-02-2012, 06:39 AM	#59
LaRee Veteran Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: San Diego Photos: Gallery Posts: 2,225	I absolutely LOVE that the battery is the same as the k-5. If the reviews are good and the users like this camera, I'm sure I'll add it to my collection of *stds, k-10, k-20, k-x and k-5!

02-02-2012, 06:42 AM	#60
eddie1960 Veteran Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Toronto Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 13,667	Originally posted by Catalana It is nice to see they've maintained battery compatibility by re-using the D-Li90. That may have contributed to the thickness of the body (in conjunction with the large sensor). But for the new lenses to not work on the DSLR's is a shame. I would have preferred an expansion of their regular DA line-up. They could have just as easily used the DA 35/F2.4 as a kit lens. It would have made the K-01 look better in their release shots as well. OK, that's a personal opinion... the new lenses do work on DSLR, and will sell for $249 separately apparently when it's released on it's own PENTAX - smc PENTAX-DA 40mm F2.8 XS Lens based on this if they do a 21 and 70 variant they would likely sell for 300-350 or so, which would give the trio maybe a 999 set price. or a special edition of the camera with all 3 for christmas say with a price of 1699 or less.