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02-04-2012, 12:50 PM   #76
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Yes but not for at least two years, at least for my main camera assuming the successor to the K-5 has a conventional OVF. After that, I reckon almost all of us will be moving to mirrorless because traditional SLRs will be on the way out big time except perhaps for a few specialist and upmarket models.

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QuoteOriginally posted by mecrox Quote
Yes but not for at least two years, at least for my main camera assuming the successor to the K-5 has a conventional OVF. After that, I reckon almost all of us will be moving to mirrorless because traditional SLRs will be on the way out big time except perhaps for a few specialist and upmarket models.

Well, I think what this model accomplishes is to make me worry less about some special mirrorless mount taking over the brand. (I'm guessing the idea behind that XS mount is to put more of the lens inside the camera? )

It seems a good enough start, but even if I were in the market now, the K-5 or its replacement would still be the best fit: I'm not really an early adopter anyway, but I think if the predictions of everything being mirrorless in five or ten years or whatever were to happen, then it'd be good to have a nice K-mount platform out there. (I'd still want full controls and of course a good EVF, weather sealing, etc, come to that, but as I said, something like a K-5 is pretty much right on target for my purposes.

I suppose we'll see what comes down the road, that way.
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Negative. I wear bifocals and have enough trouble seeing the LCD. I can't imagine holding it out in front of me to compose a picture with a 300mm lens.
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QuoteOriginally posted by jdmccol Quote
Negative. I wear bifocals and have enough trouble seeing the LCD. I can't imagine holding it out in front of me to compose a picture with a 300mm lens.
+1. I would have considered it if there had been an EVF but K-01 is right off my radar. If I go mirrorless it will likely be to Olympus, with the new OM-D. Waiting to see how that works out.

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QuoteOriginally posted by Ratmagiclady Quote
(I'm guessing the idea behind that XS mount is to put more of the lens inside the camera? )
The 40mm doesn't. It just chops off the distance marker and filter ring. No one knows anything about any further lenses.
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QuoteOriginally posted by kyteflyer Quote
+1. I would have considered it if there had been an EVF but K-01 is right off my radar. If I go mirrorless it will likely be to Olympus, with the new OM-D. Waiting to see how that works out.
+1. I will wait to see how the OM-D tested with the reviewers and how the initial buyers like the camera. By then the two new dslr cameras will be out for Pentax. The rumor is they will be smaller than the K-r and K-5. I can not see they could be that much smaller. The OM-D will be smaller and the lenses will be smaller. So there is a very good chance that I will be a dual system photographer. I never did care for the pen series because of the lack on an evf. I really don,t care for the add on evf because it would live on the camera, which will take away the size advantage and the hotshoe for a flash.
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I already did.
And did not.
I combine.

Olympus E-p3 Samsung nx100/200 Pentax Spotmatic II (retired 2 years ago) Pentax K-5.

I hope the end of 2012 will have brought clarity. I hate the process of buying/selling.

Vf, art. screen, nice, gi'me. But I can do without.
But I still cannot do without weather resistance.
I hate it when they literally freeze.
02-05-2012, 08:14 AM   #83
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Amazing how many are making this decision on some kind of philosophical ground. When talking cameras philosophy is worthless. A camera is a practical item.

Just thinking about what I do now... wild life with a long lens and sometimes 1.7 converter.... not even possible with this camera or any liveview camera unless a tripod is involved. Wildlife don't always wait for you to set up your tripod.

Landscapes, usually the landscape doesn't move.. a tripod is preferred and having to snuzzle up and peak through the viewfinder is a pain. Advantage live veiw on the back screen.

Snap shots...it's easier to brace yourself with a DSLR. BUt the smaller camera body with the right lens could be good. My Option W8 and W9 work just fine for this though. The K-01 would be un-necessarily heavy for that job.

Image SIze K20D - 4568 3035 (13.9 Mp) 12 bit colour depth
---------------K-5-----4928 x 3264 (16.28Mp) 14 bit colour depth
---------------K-01---4928 x 3264 ( 16.28 Mp) 12 bit colour depth

To me, the entire issue here is will the new image engine produce better IQ than the one in the K-5, is it faster? what are the improvements in IQ.

If I can increase IQ on my landscapes for the price of carrying a second body, plus have more pixels which could theoretically increase print quality.. I might be interested in one of these instead of a K-5, and then upgrade to the next DSLR body when it comes out. But I have to be convinced it's a step up from a K-5 in IQ.

But it has to give me something. I can work with my K20D, no problem.. the pixel count is less than 10% bigger than my K20D.. and I have no indication the IQ would be any better. Plus there are things that I do, I can't do with it.. use long lenses without a tripod, track wildlife (have you ever tried finding a duck on a pond with a point and shoot?) My DSLR still does everything.

The price isn't good enough. If I can get a K-5 for $969 next time the store has a sale, why would I pay $750 for this camera? I suspect, by the time the price comes down, the image quality has been confirmed, etc. the new K DSLR body will be out and I won't be interested. It's great everyone got the new movie stuff... but, I don't shoot movies and I'd rather not have to pay for it.

But if all else falls into place before the summer, and I haven't spent my tax return yet... I might buy one

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I am mildly interest into this camera only for video works. Currently I am using the K-5 and it is a little pain switching from user to movie to block ISO, especially because every time the camera goes on sleep, I have to redo the switch. And I am shooting wildlife, so it involves long time waiting for the birds to arrive. What is keeping me to go for it, is that first I want to see what movie specs will be in the K-3. If they will be the same of this camera, I think I will keep K-5 and add K-01, especially if K-3 will be 24MP. I prefer to have two cameras with the same count of MP.

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I have somewhat of a tradition going now. Picked up my K20 in its waning days just when the K7 was announced for $650 new (and Pentax tossed in their 2 year extended warranty). I just received my new K5 from FedEx that I acquired new for $749. So, I am set for the foreseeable future. I can take wonderful images with what I have, while sitting here reading about the early adopters of the K-01 and their experiences. In a year or so, it will be going for about $450 +/- and I can make up my mind then. The one item of functionality that is of interest is focus peaking, however the lack of the ability to use a wired shutter release is a negative. Thanks normhead for the 12 vs 14 bit color (I did not catch that on the release) - I prefer the 14 bit depth in color. I want color, dynamic range, depth of shadows, wonderful image quality, resolution, sharpness, etc. I want to try to make wonderful pictures - well the best pictures I can.

Lots of time and pictures between now and when I might need another body - and Pentax will probably release another 3 maybe 5 bodies, so I can wait and watch.... By then, Rico's mark on Pentax should be clear in terms of the direction they are heading.

The one thing that I think this announcements shows is that $750 is probably the low that the K5 will see as it transitions out of inventory. If this new body can come out at $750 new on announcement, with essentially the K5's sensor, I'll take this as the k5 price base.


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i havent followed many of the K01 threads but it certainly does not appear to be aimed at the K7/K5 crowd as a replacement but perhaps at an alternate market, crossover users from point&shoot/compact cams/cell phone cams. That is my take anyhow. lack of weathersealing and viewfinder makes it a complete no-go for me but i will tell my novice friends all about this model. I think the design/styling is sharp and well done in a retro way.

reminds me of the Australian company that makes Yellowtail wine. They knew they could not compete with the california wine market and so instead targeted the crossover beer/wine cooler/etc crowd with marketing and packaging geared toward that audience. They were rather successful as a result.
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QuoteOriginally posted by Chex Quote
The sensor alone wouldn't... the difference in the PRIME processing engines have a lot to do with final IQ as well, why else does the K-5 beat the D7000 for overall IQ? It's in the processing!
In that case, I should point out that the K-01 also has a new PRIME M processing engine. That should put its IQ even farther ahead of the K-m's. The point that I am making is that, despite the absence of an EVF (which would be very nice to have), the K-01 is two generations beyond the K-m and should be a much more capable camera.

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QuoteOriginally posted by RonHendriks1966 Quote
Who is moving from Pentax dslr (whatever K-5/7, K20D/K10D, K-r/x/m or *Ist) to this new mirrorless K-01 now that all old lenses can be used?
Never, as long as I live, the SLR experience is the soul of photography.
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I can't use that camera if it is handheld. My hands shake too much. With shake reduction , I can't even use a 100mm lens. I can not imagine holding a camera 12" - 18" from my body. When I was younger, maybe.

Besides if I want a mirrorless camera, I'll use my Canon 7.
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QuoteOriginally posted by maxfield_photo Quote
Never, as long as I live, the SLR experience is the soul of photography.
I thought Tri-X was the soul and SLRs where the bees knees of photography?
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