Why a "long lens" and K-01 may not mix.

m8o · 02-06-2012, 08:25 AM

Originally posted by johnmflores

... This is not the camera that you are looking for.

... lol ... I hate wearing those storm-trooper uniforms ; especially in a desert environment. Too much chafing.

rruntsch · 02-12-2012, 02:00 PM

The K-01 looks like a good upgrade from my K110D, especially since I enjoy landscape photography with wide angle, normal, and short telephoto lenses. When shooting action wildlife photos with a long lens, perhaps a camera shoulder stock would help to compensate for the camera's lack of a viewfinder. Can anyone share their experience in shooting using a shoulder stock with a long lens with a mirror-less camera without a viewfinder?

jogiba · 02-12-2012, 02:16 PM - **1 Like**

The yellow K-01 I have on pre-order will shoot much better HD video than my K-7 and also look better with my yellow tripod.

You Tube

m8o · 02-12-2012, 02:52 PM

Originally posted by jogiba

The yellow K-01 I have on pre-order will shoot much better HD video than my K-7 and also look better with my yellow tripod.

Lemme know how it works when you drop use of the tripod. (as awesome as the whole setup is)

I enjoy your involvement, but I can't for the life of me understand why you must continue to ignore the point of this thread and go on and on about tripod usage given I thought I made a very cogent argument for instances when a tripod or even monopod may only not be preferred, but not even possible...

Last edited by m8o; 02-12-2012 at 04:43 PM.

johnmflores · 02-12-2012, 03:18 PM

Originally posted by m8o

... lol ... I hate wearing those storm-trooper uniforms ; especially in a desert environment. Too much chafing.

I've shot the Panasonic image-stabilized 100-300 (200-600 FF EQ) while trying to look at the rear LCD of an M43 camera. It's not easy. I don't expect the K-01 to be any better, but I don't think it's fair to criticize it. I think your expectations of this camera are not in line with Pentax's expectations of the camera, nor can you assume that your expectations of the camera aligns with everyone else's.

Just get the camera that fits your needs and leave the others on the shelf. Life's too short.

RonHendriks1966 · 02-12-2012, 03:28 PM

Originally posted by marosari00

Here is a sample from Home | PhotographyBLOG Pentax K-01 Hands-On Photos | PhotographyBLOG

Wow, I have that lens and I have that camera on pre-order

I use a monopod for a lot of my work with the two long lenses I have (DA*300mm and Sigma 70-200mm) and the Sigma 120-300mm on my wishlist.

Originally posted by JinDesu

In consideration, most of us are seeing it (and it's features and limitations support this) as a video camera.

This is also why I want this K-01 now.

jogiba · 02-12-2012, 04:48 PM

Originally posted by m8o

Lemme know how it works when you drop use of the tripod. (as awesome as the whole setup is)

I enjoy your involvement, but I can't for the life of me understand why you must continue to ignore the point of this thread and go on and on about tripod usage given I thought I made a very cogent argument for instances when a tripod or even monopod may only not be preferred, but not even possible...

I don't think anyone is going to handhold a 24lb lens but I don't have a problem shooting handheld videos with a 300mm (450mm eqiv) and my K-7.

You Tube

m8o · 02-12-2012, 04:56 PM

Originally posted by johnmflores

I've shot the Panasonic image-stabilized 100-300 (200-600 FF EQ) while trying to look at the rear LCD of an M43 camera. It's not easy. I don't expect the K-01 to be any better, but I don't think it's fair to criticize it. I think your expectations of this camera are not in line with Pentax's expectations of the camera, nor can you assume that your expectations of the camera aligns with everyone else's.

Just get the camera that fits your needs and leave the others on the shelf. Life's too short.

Lest there be further mus-understandings, that too was part of the point of this thread, but coming at it from a different angle; wanting / expecting it to be as versatile as either of my K-somthing D-SLRs and realizing how it can't be.

visual zen · 02-18-2012, 07:11 AM

All my lenses are manual focus. My question is unless the K-01 has focus tweaking. How in the world can I expect to get sharp photos with any older lens? I've been researching and trying to find out.
Seems to me "so what if it's a K mount" if you can't focus due to no real way to see what you have going..............well somebody dropped the ball when they came up with this turd.

creampuff · 02-18-2012, 04:07 PM

Originally posted by visual zen

All my lenses are manual focus. My question is unless the K-01 has focus tweaking. How in the world can I expect to get sharp photos with any older lens? I've been researching and trying to find out.
Seems to me "so what if it's a K mount" if you can't focus due to no real way to see what you have going..............well somebody dropped the ball when they came up with this turd.

Seriously, calling it a turd when you haven't even used the camera just belies your ignorance. It is easy to focus manually with the K-01, speaking as someone who has used it. I suggest you actually get your hands on one before coming up with snap judgements.

ibkc · 02-18-2012, 06:00 PM

Originally posted by visual zen

All my lenses are manual focus. My question is unless the K-01 has focus tweaking. How in the world can I expect to get sharp photos with any older lens? I've been researching and trying to find out.
Seems to me "so what if it's a K mount" if you can't focus due to no real way to see what you have going..............well somebody dropped the ball when they came up with this turd.

Isn't it called focus peaking, not "tweaking"? Either way, I am given to understand that the K-01 will have focus peaking. I noticed you mentioned Zeiss lenses elsewhere; I too have some Zeiss M42 glass, currently in use on my old K-mount Ricoh film SLR, that I very much look forward to using with this camera. I may also adapt my Pentacon Six medium format Zeiss Jena lenses for digital use at some point although that's a bit lower on the priority scale.

ihasa · 02-18-2012, 06:10 PM

Originally posted by visual zen

All my lenses are manual focus. My question is unless the K-01 has focus tweaking. How in the world can I expect to get sharp photos with any older lens? I've been researching and trying to find out.
Seems to me "so what if it's a K mount" if you can't focus due to no real way to see what you have going..............well somebody dropped the ball when they came up with this turd.

Creampuff has it right, you are spouting ignorance.

Focus peaking in live view will make this the easiest digital camera to focus manual lenses Pentax have yet made.

m8o · 02-18-2012, 07:29 PM

Originally posted by creampuff

It is easy to focus manually with the K-01, speaking as someone who has used it.

Creampuff, does the K-01's lcd show change in focus pretty much immediately? I hate the delay the K-5 LV has when I change focus. When I notice something's in perfect focus I'd already moved past that point, and then have to go back and move back and forth slowly. My experience it trying it out made me realize I can miss lots of moments, so I never tried again. Wonder if this is quicker.

regor · 02-19-2012, 08:54 AM

Originally posted by hcarvalhoalves

Holding the K-01 with the kit 18-55mm without a VF will be enough to make one look pretty stupid in the street.

Why do you say that ? You can hold the K-01 on your left hand palm, with the upper left arm / elbow tightly resting on your chest, and holding controls / stabilizing with the right hand, hence creating a very stable hold and I don't see how this would look ridiculous. This larger size of the EX-01 will make a stable hold much easier than with thinner smaller bodies.

leopold · 02-19-2012, 09:17 AM

Personnally i prefer to use a tripod for long lenses even if it's just for a couple of shots because the resulting photos wil always be sharper, especially when the light is low and your shutter speed is not too fast.

I did use my NEX-3 with my Pentax-67 M*400mm/4 (on a tripod as usual) with good results but the camera is too small to use comfortably, the K-01 will certainly be better for that.

02-12-2012, 02:00 PM	#47
rruntsch Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Rochester, Minnesota Photos: Gallery Posts: 38	The K-01 looks like a good upgrade from my K110D, especially since I enjoy landscape photography with wide angle, normal, and short telephoto lenses. When shooting action wildlife photos with a long lens, perhaps a camera shoulder stock would help to compensate for the camera's lack of a viewfinder. Can anyone share their experience in shooting using a shoulder stock with a long lens with a mirror-less camera without a viewfinder? Last edited by rruntsch; 02-12-2012 at 05:05 PM.

02-18-2012, 07:11 AM	#54
visual zen New Member Join Date: Dec 2011 Posts: 4	Question of focus with a manual lens on the K-01 All my lenses are manual focus. My question is unless the K-01 has focus tweaking. How in the world can I expect to get sharp photos with any older lens? I've been researching and trying to find out. Seems to me "so what if it's a K mount" if you can't focus due to no real way to see what you have going..............well somebody dropped the ball when they came up with this turd.

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02-06-2012, 08:25 AM	#46
m8o Veteran Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: 40°-55'-44" N / 73°-24'-07" W [on LI] Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 3,092 Original Poster	Originally posted by johnmflores ... This is not the camera that you are looking for. ... lol ... I hate wearing those storm-trooper uniforms ; especially in a desert environment. Too much chafing.

02-12-2012, 02:52 PM	#49
m8o Veteran Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: 40°-55'-44" N / 73°-24'-07" W [on LI] Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 3,092 Original Poster	Originally posted by jogiba The yellow K-01 I have on pre-order will shoot much better HD video than my K-7 and also look better with my yellow tripod. Lemme know how it works when you drop use of the tripod. (as awesome as the whole setup is) I enjoy your involvement, but I can't for the life of me understand why you must continue to ignore the point of this thread and go on and on about tripod usage given I thought I made a very cogent argument for instances when a tripod or even monopod may only not be preferred, but not even possible... Last edited by m8o; 02-12-2012 at 04:43 PM.

02-12-2012, 03:18 PM	#50
johnmflores Veteran Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Somerville, NJ Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 5,361	Originally posted by m8o ... lol ... I hate wearing those storm-trooper uniforms ; especially in a desert environment. Too much chafing. I've shot the Panasonic image-stabilized 100-300 (200-600 FF EQ) while trying to look at the rear LCD of an M43 camera. It's not easy. I don't expect the K-01 to be any better, but I don't think it's fair to criticize it. I think your expectations of this camera are not in line with Pentax's expectations of the camera, nor can you assume that your expectations of the camera aligns with everyone else's. Just get the camera that fits your needs and leave the others on the shelf. Life's too short.

02-12-2012, 03:28 PM	#51
RonHendriks1966 Banned Join Date: Jan 2009 Photos: Gallery Posts: 9,675	Originally posted by marosari00 Here is a sample from Home \| PhotographyBLOG Pentax K-01 Hands-On Photos \| PhotographyBLOG Wow, I have that lens and I have that camera on pre-order I use a monopod for a lot of my work with the two long lenses I have (DA*300mm and Sigma 70-200mm) and the Sigma 120-300mm on my wishlist. Originally posted by JinDesu In consideration, most of us are seeing it (and it's features and limitations support this) as a video camera. This is also why I want this K-01 now.

02-12-2012, 04:56 PM	#53
m8o Veteran Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: 40°-55'-44" N / 73°-24'-07" W [on LI] Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 3,092 Original Poster	Originally posted by johnmflores I've shot the Panasonic image-stabilized 100-300 (200-600 FF EQ) while trying to look at the rear LCD of an M43 camera. It's not easy. I don't expect the K-01 to be any better, but I don't think it's fair to criticize it. I think your expectations of this camera are not in line with Pentax's expectations of the camera, nor can you assume that your expectations of the camera aligns with everyone else's. Just get the camera that fits your needs and leave the others on the shelf. Life's too short. Lest there be further mus-understandings, that too was part of the point of this thread, but coming at it from a different angle; wanting / expecting it to be as versatile as either of my K-somthing D-SLRs and realizing how it can't be.

02-18-2012, 04:07 PM	#55
creampuff Veteran Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: Singapore Photos: Gallery Posts: 3,953	Originally posted by visual zen All my lenses are manual focus. My question is unless the K-01 has focus tweaking. How in the world can I expect to get sharp photos with any older lens? I've been researching and trying to find out. Seems to me "so what if it's a K mount" if you can't focus due to no real way to see what you have going..............well somebody dropped the ball when they came up with this turd. Seriously, calling it a turd when you haven't even used the camera just belies your ignorance. It is easy to focus manually with the K-01, speaking as someone who has used it. I suggest you actually get your hands on one before coming up with snap judgements.

02-18-2012, 06:00 PM	#56
ibkc Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: southeastern US Photos: Gallery Posts: 203	Originally posted by visual zen All my lenses are manual focus. My question is unless the K-01 has focus tweaking. How in the world can I expect to get sharp photos with any older lens? I've been researching and trying to find out. Seems to me "so what if it's a K mount" if you can't focus due to no real way to see what you have going..............well somebody dropped the ball when they came up with this turd. Isn't it called focus peaking, not "tweaking"? Either way, I am given to understand that the K-01 will have focus peaking. I noticed you mentioned Zeiss lenses elsewhere; I too have some Zeiss M42 glass, currently in use on my old K-mount Ricoh film SLR, that I very much look forward to using with this camera. I may also adapt my Pentacon Six medium format Zeiss Jena lenses for digital use at some point although that's a bit lower on the priority scale.

02-18-2012, 06:10 PM	#57
ihasa Veteran Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: West Midlands Photos: Gallery Posts: 2,066	Originally posted by visual zen All my lenses are manual focus. My question is unless the K-01 has focus tweaking. How in the world can I expect to get sharp photos with any older lens? I've been researching and trying to find out. Seems to me "so what if it's a K mount" if you can't focus due to no real way to see what you have going..............well somebody dropped the ball when they came up with this turd. Creampuff has it right, you are spouting ignorance. Focus peaking in live view will make this the easiest digital camera to focus manual lenses Pentax have yet made.

02-18-2012, 07:29 PM	#58
m8o Veteran Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: 40°-55'-44" N / 73°-24'-07" W [on LI] Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 3,092 Original Poster	Originally posted by creampuff It is easy to focus manually with the K-01, speaking as someone who has used it. Creampuff, does the K-01's lcd show change in focus pretty much immediately? I hate the delay the K-5 LV has when I change focus. When I notice something's in perfect focus I'd already moved past that point, and then have to go back and move back and forth slowly. My experience it trying it out made me realize I can miss lots of moments, so I never tried again. Wonder if this is quicker.

02-19-2012, 08:54 AM	#59
regor Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Victoria, BC Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 356	Originally posted by hcarvalhoalves Holding the K-01 with the kit 18-55mm without a VF will be enough to make one look pretty stupid in the street. Why do you say that ? You can hold the K-01 on your left hand palm, with the upper left arm / elbow tightly resting on your chest, and holding controls / stabilizing with the right hand, hence creating a very stable hold and I don't see how this would look ridiculous. This larger size of the EX-01 will make a stable hold much easier than with thinner smaller bodies.

02-19-2012, 09:17 AM	#60
leopold Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: montreal Posts: 136	Personnally i prefer to use a tripod for long lenses even if it's just for a couple of shots because the resulting photos wil always be sharper, especially when the light is low and your shutter speed is not too fast. I did use my NEX-3 with my Pentax-67 M*400mm/4 (on a tripod as usual) with good results but the camera is too small to use comfortably, the K-01 will certainly be better for that.