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02-15-2012, 10:08 AM   #661
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Some pics from the K-01 :

PENTAX K-01 ( sample model ) + smc PENTAX DA STAR 50-135MM F2.8

PENTAX K-01 ( sample model ) + SMC PENTAX DA STAR 50-135MM & Pentax K5 + smc PENTAX-DA 40mmF2.8 XS

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02-15-2012, 10:18 AM   #662
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QuoteOriginally posted by NickLarsson Quote
Some pics from the K-01 :
Good, but small. The colours differ from K-5...Anyway, it could be PP of author.

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QuoteOriginally posted by ogl Quote
How to convert it? JPEG shows NR at all ISO. The results are worse than my K200D. K-r level is higher level in terms noise/colour/details/sharpness.

http://img1.focus-numerique.com/focus/articles/1380/olympus-om-d-e-m5-preserie-exemple22.jpg
it's very close to IQ of Nikon 1...for me.
Biggest question for me is not high iso noise, but dynamic range at low iso. This is where micro four thirds seems to be lagging. We'll have to wait for Dxo mark to do some evaluation of the sensor from that standpoint.

I agree, though, looks like some softening even at low iso.
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How to convert it? JPEG shows NR at all ISO. The results are worse than my K200D. K-r level is higher level in terms noise/colour/details/sharpness.
If you are opening the attached JPEG then you are just viewing the thumbnail file which is pretty low quality. If the attached JPEG was as good as the K-r that would be pretty impressive.
I am using Olympus Viewer v.2

RAW Therapee and Faststone will both open the .ORF files, but they are not optimized for the E-M5 so I am not sure how good the images will look. I really wish Olympus supported DNG.

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QuoteOriginally posted by Winder Quote
RAW Therapee and Faststone will both open the .ORF files, but they are not optimized for the E-M5 so I am not sure how good the images will look. I really wish Olympus supported DNG.
Also note that in Faststone you have to configure the settings to show the RAW. The default is to show the embedded jpeg.
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Since putting ogl on the ignore list I like to make up my own ogl-ish posts whenever I see one of his hidden. In this case I was imagining "E-M5 images look like from child toy. K-5 still better camera."

It wasn't too far off.
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Olympus OM-D | Page 3 | Camera & Photography Forum - Camera-Enthusiast.com

There is a processed shot in this thread for those who are interested.
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Well, the 9 fps has no auto focus, right? To have auto focus, you can only shoot 4 fps, I believe. Never quite understood that. The only situation where I can think of where you would want high fps without auto focus is if you have prefocused on an area (say a soccer goalie) and are expecting some event. Otherwise you just end up with 9 out of focus images.
Well I was at a diving event and 9 fps would be great. AF is no need for, since they only jump from the tower down.

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I wonder if My Olympus Studio would stil reconise the raw files ?
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QuoteOriginally posted by pingflood Quote
Since putting ogl on the ignore list I like to make up my own ogl-ish posts whenever I see one of his hidden. In this case I was imagining "E-M5 images look like from child toy. K-5 still better camera."

It wasn't too far off.
Ignore list is the sign of human self-doubt and cowardice. Truth fear.

Enjoy illusions.

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I feel these m4/3 camera are good option for video, as for photography aps-c dslr is a lot better now.
I have k-5 and panasonic G2...really big difference in sensor quality
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That ISO 2500 shot on Winder's link isn't that impressive to me, especially in the hair detail. Still, I imagine if I bought a M4/3 camera even with this apparently improved sensor I'd still mostly expect to shoot at ISO1600 or lower, and that would be fine for most applications -- sort of how it was with my K-7. That ISO2500 shot would still be useable in a lot of different situations.
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QuoteOriginally posted by Urkeldaedalus Quote
That ISO 2500 shot on Winder's link isn't that impressive to me, especially in the hair detail. Still, I imagine if I bought a M4/3 camera even with this apparently improved sensor I'd still mostly expect to shoot at ISO1600 or lower, and that would be fine for most applications -- sort of how it was with my K-7. That ISO2500 shot would still be useable in a lot of different situations.
Shooting at 1600 ISO as a ceiling with four thirds is about right. There is a big advantage here which everyone always over looks with four thirds though. Thats basicly four thirds gives superb quality with fast lenses even when used wide open !
You even get a bit of deph. This is a bit of a cheat, but F2.8 = F5.6 in terms of deph. Not so good when you want nice bokeh though !
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Shooting at 1600 ISO as a ceiling with four thirds is about right. There is a big advantage here which everyone always over looks with four thirds though. Thats basicly four thirds gives superb quality with fast lenses even when used wide open !
You even get a bit of deph. This is a bit of a cheat, but F2.8 = F5.6 in terms of deph. Not so good when you want nice bokeh though !
Absolutely true, the Olympus 150mm/f2.0 is a perfect lens and gives great images even when used at f2.0!
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QuoteOriginally posted by Urkeldaedalus Quote
That ISO 2500 shot on Winder's link isn't that impressive to me, especially in the hair detail. Still, I imagine if I bought a M4/3 camera even with this apparently improved sensor I'd still mostly expect to shoot at ISO1600 or lower, and that would be fine for most applications -- sort of how it was with my K-7. That ISO2500 shot would still be useable in a lot of different situations.
The guy converted it from RAW to a JPEG using Faststone, so I'm not sure how that would compare to LR or C1 in terms of noise and detail retention. Looking at the GX-1 over one DPR the M4/3 sensor is definitely better than the K-7 and matches the performance of the Canon 7D. When we get actually support for the new E-M5 RAW files we will see how good it can get. For what it is I think it is pretty good

What are the expectations for a 4/3 sensor and a $1,000.00 camera? Clean 3200? Just 18 months ago Pentax users would have been thrilled to have an APS-C sensor that performed this good. The K-5 has set the bar pretty high in terms of IQ and compares well with older FF cameras.

With lenses like the 45mm and 12mm Olympus is making a pretty capable & compact system.
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