Originally posted by Wheatfield The reason for negative posts such as this is because some Pentax's users fervently hope that this camera is not a harbinger of things to come, ...
That is exactly correct as far as it concerns me.
I don't quite think that anything anyone writes on the forum here will have any direct impact on future decisions by Pentax, but aiming to have direct impact on Pentax is certainly not the only motivation to post here.
Originally posted by rawr He was not out on a lark of his own on this project.
Obviously he needed to work with Pentax and Pentax had its input but he also explicitly said he does not value customer feedback. I find that inappropriate for an industrial designer.
While there is positive user feedback (e.g., from Singapore) there was also negative feedback (the critique of the exposure compensation button placement in the first
"hands-on" video).
Many here remark that it is not possible to critique the ergonomics of a camera design from images alone, but a) I dispute that to an extent, and b) someone who held and handled the K-01 made the same remark about the exposure compensation button (see the above video).
If only a few people in a feedback group would have mentioned the placement of the exposure compensation button, that should have been good enough feedback for any good designer to reconsider the placement. I'm absolutely positive that the feedback from the other users (e.g., the Singapore users) would have just been as positive or even better had the exposure compensation button be placed differently.
Originally posted by creampuff I don't know why Pentaxforumers beat themselves silly discussing to death that they know better than the other guy especially over something as subjective as design.
Usability is not entirely subjective.
And if one major theme of the response to a new camera is "fugliness" then this is not "subjective" but a problem.
Originally posted by creampuff One man's meat is another man's poison... so if you cannot come to terms with what Marc Newson has designed, then shut the f--- up, don't buy the K-01 and spend your money on something else.
- Can you explain to me why you are posting here that others should STFU? What kind of privilege do you enjoy that others don't? If you reserve the right to post your opinion here (in a thread you could have easily ignored) then it appears to me that you must grant others the right no to STFU.
- Your advice/conclusion "Don't buy the K-01" is certainly not what would be good for Pentax. And that was exactly the motivation for this thread: I want Pentax to do well. Hence, I'm frustrated when I feel that they are shooting themselves into the foot. I'm frustrated that the K-01 came close to an attractive product that would have done heaps of good for Pentax, but instead is something you must be concerned about whether it will find acceptance in the market.
Ergonomics have been a strong suit of Pentax DSLRs. I'm just very disappointed that I feel they dropped the ball with the K-01 in that discipline.
Originally posted by creampuff Like as if they will listen to anonymous nobodies who probably don't have the means to buy but need to get their design discomfort angst off their chests.
"Nobodies"?
"Design discomfort angst"?
Really?
Originally posted by creampuff It is an easy camera to use.
So you are happy to
- press the exposure compensation button (and let it go),
- turn the rear dial, and then
- press the exposure button again (and let it go).
I believe that this approach does not allow a fluid as operation as it is possible on Pentax DSLRs and while the "toggle"-approach somewhat alleviates the bad placement of the exposure compensation button, it still would have been better placed somewhere else.
Originally posted by creampuff perhaps it would be better to put that mental effort into making better pictures.
How did you decide that it was a better use of your time to write your post rather than making better pictures?
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