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02-10-2012, 09:39 PM   #16
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The cost is a real issue to me. A 12 mp sensor M mount. That runs $650 USD. Upgrade the sensor to a 16 MP and add Screw drive let say adds 100$. Now you are paying the same price for the K-01. Also that would not include the GXR body, SR, ability to run SDM/DC motors which all would add cost. I'm interested since I like the form and concept of the GXR.
Exactly. It needs to offer some added value. Anyone who would consider the GXR is probably a fairly specialist photographer - most people are fine with keeping the same sensor for years and don't particularly need a sealed unit. My camera was made in 2007 and it still serves my needs adequately. I've never had a dust problem. Furthermore, a doubling in megapixels is only a 40% increase in print size. I don't print big enough to challenge my sensor that often.

Make this into the technical photographer's system. Offer excellent software and hardware support for legacy lenses. Offer APS-C and FF sensors that can have any legacy system's mount attached, so you can use the best glass of each systemr. Screw AF is not terribly complicated for most mounts, and Ricoh already makes cameras with mechanical aperture feelers and stop-down systems (the 645D). Let programmers into the operation as much as possible. Try to make tilt/shift adapters from 35mm or medium format, do contrast-detect autofocus adapters, whatever. Most of it is the same product executed with a different mount. Samyang can figure it out, and they're way newer in the market than Ricoh. So can Sigma and Tamron. If an APS-C product were priced at $1500-2000 for a complete system, it would probably sell quite well. Tack on another $500-$1000 for a FF sensor.

The market will support the 645D, which is an incredibly small market and a very expensive camera. There's a similarly good market for the Fuji GX680 film technical cameras, because they offer excellent movements and lenses. Why not enable the technical stuff, and let people use their own excellent lenses?

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The market will support the 645D, which is an incredibly small market and a very expensive camera. There's a similarly good market for the Fuji GX680 film technical cameras, because they offer excellent movements and lenses. Why not enable the technical stuff, and let people use their own excellent lenses?
licensing agreements? Pentax / Ricoh is a 1st party, not a 3rd party. Why would they license a current competitor's AF mount and why would the competitor want them to?
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licensing agreements? Pentax / Ricoh is a 1st party, not a 3rd party. Why would they license a current competitor's AF mount and why would the competitor want them to?
Ricoh is not really a first party imo, they don't have a major mount system. Regardless, think of it as a fringe benefit of maintaining two separate brandings

Looks like it's usually patent law that is used to protect these then - the Nikon F mount is patented f.ex. But most of those patents are probably dead - patent life is 20 years. Can you re-patent your mount with an AF screw? Seems like that wouldn't clear the bar of obviousness, but I'm not a lawyer.
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GXRII and K-mount module will be announced this year if I understand in right way


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GXRII and K-mount module will be announced this year if I understand in right way
understand *what* in the right way ogl? our hopes and desires?
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understand *what* in the right way ogl? our hopes and desires?
I've heard it from Adam Adam - View Profile - PentaxForums.com
yesterday...

https://www.pentaxforums.com/forums/1821147-post38.html

I have no any hopes and desires. Ricoh is only P&S cameras and office equipment in my country.
GXR is rare beast here. Hard to find and hard to buy.
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