Steve Huff: Quick 1st Look: The Pentax K-01 [Video]

riff · 03-09-2012, 01:05 PM

Originally posted by JinDesu

Was my complaint misplaced? Is it a valid comparison between a K-01 and a k-5

Well it is what it is so complaining accomplishes nothing.
Comparing it to the K5 works for me and probably most K5 owners.

redpigeons · 03-09-2012, 01:27 PM

I must say now (something a little out of the subject )
I saw his Leica M9 review , as well I just looked again on some other Leica's pictures.
now granted some of the most amazing photographers in the world shoot with the M9 but if for one second you ignore the amazing compositions and subjects and just look at the technique

Leica M9 = $7000 + Leica 35mm f2 $3500

V.S

K5= about $1000 + a FA31mm LTD about $1000

color, 3d effect , rendering , sharpness , over all feel I am not sure which one I like better , the only thing is that the Leica being a FF will give you amazing opportunities for cropping . but really I know this is a holly issue and I should not even say that , but I just not sure that what you get extra worth $8000

pingflood · 03-09-2012, 01:47 PM

Well, the thing is that a lot of cameras are "good enough" now that you would be hard pressed to see a worthwhile difference between them. To add to your example, I bet a Panasonic G3 + 25/1.4 would probably give you similarly excellent results, and it is even smaller and cheaper. There are some nuances to Leica glass that is hard to beat, and the optical performance is arguably better than most everything else, but I wonder in how many shots it really makes a visible difference.

Of course, if you want the ultimate, ditch the Leica and get an Alpa with a digital back...

redpigeons · 03-09-2012, 03:38 PM

Originally posted by pingflood

Well, the thing is that a lot of cameras are "good enough" now that you would be hard pressed to see a worthwhile difference between them. To add to your example, I bet a Panasonic G3 + 25/1.4 would probably give you similarly excellent results, and it is even smaller and cheaper. There are some nuances to Leica glass that is hard to beat, and the optical performance is arguably better than most everything else, but I wonder in how many shots it really makes a visible difference.

Of course, if you want the ultimate, ditch the Leica and get an Alpa with a digital back...

omg I never heard about this camera , but just watched some of the videos on youtube , but the time I will get to take a picture with this camera most of my subjects will grow old.

but I know what you mean , for an extra $8000 I am assuming some people can see a big difference , I cant thou any way ,

Col · 03-09-2012, 05:24 PM

Originally posted by redpigeons

omg I never heard about this camera , but just watched some of the videos on youtube , but the time I will get to take a picture with this camera most of my subjects will grow old.

but I know what you mean , for an extra $8000 I am assuming some people can see a big difference , I cant thou any way ,

Oh you can... from the front

Rico · 03-09-2012, 06:43 PM

I have a Leica Digilux 1. When I first saw the K-01 I thought they had same similarity in design. The Digilux 1 had great controls. In manual mode the four way controller became how you changed aperture and shutter speed. I find this much better than the wheels on the K-5. I wish we had the option of making the four way controller function that way on the K-5 for manual use. Plus the Digilux 1's LCD view would adjust to show what the exposure looked like when you changed settings. This was tremendously useful in quickly dialing in proper exposure.

This review if you can call it a review was ridiculous. Apparently Mr Huff has never handled a brick in his life if he thinks the K-01 is bigger than a brick. The reason the K-01 froze on him was that he was taking the lenses on and off without turning the camera on and off just prior to when it froze.

**monochrome** · 03-10-2012, 01:26 PM

Originally posted by Col

Oh you can... from the front

Hipster fashion

redpigeons · 03-16-2012, 03:43 PM - **1 Like**

The Pentax K-01 Camera Review – Design Masterpiece or Design Fail? | STEVE HUFF PHOTOS

full review by Steve huff with sample photos

**Fontan** · 03-16-2012, 09:44 PM

Originally posted by redpigeons

I must say now (something a little out of the subject )
I saw his Leica M9 review , as well I just looked again on some other Leica's pictures.
now granted some of the most amazing photographers in the world shoot with the M9 but if for one second you ignore the amazing compositions and subjects and just look at the technique

Leica M9 = $7000 + Leica 35mm f2 $3500

V.S

K5= about $1000 + a FA31mm LTD about $1000

color, 3d effect , rendering , sharpness , over all feel I am not sure which one I like better , the only thing is that the Leica being a FF will give you amazing opportunities for cropping . but really I know this is a holly issue and I should not even say that , but I just not sure that what you get extra worth $8000

In short, it is.

ibkc · 03-17-2012, 06:28 AM

Originally posted by redpigeons

The Pentax K-01 Camera Review – Design Masterpiece or Design Fail? | STEVE HUFF PHOTOS

full review by Steve huff with sample photos

That was amusing.

I actually really appreciate his style of "review", which is to go out and just use the camera in real-life shooting situations instead of setting up elaborate tests in his living room (don't get me wrong - the latter kind of review is crucial when performed/written by professionals - it's just nice to have a different kind of review every now and then). His ultra-conversational tone of writing - it's almost like he uses voice-to-text software and leaves it at that - is downright funny, although it gets confusing and frustrating because he repeats himself a lot. His verdict - honest and fair enough.

I wound up liking the guy a lot. He's a fanboy of cameras that I can only salivate over in pictures; I can't afford a 40 or 50-year-old Leica in working condition with corresponding lenses, let alone a current model. However despite that, he seems quite unpretentious, and I think I'm going to bookmark his page and check back in occasionally, simply because I like his enthusiasm for photography and cameras in general.

pinholecam · 03-17-2012, 07:06 AM

Originally posted by redpigeons

The Pentax K-01 Camera Review – Design Masterpiece or Design Fail? | STEVE HUFF PHOTOS

full review by Steve huff with sample photos

Kinda expected as I mentioned earlier.
Not his kind of fashion statement and camera.

Honest enough review though from his standpoint.

Total Pentax USA marketing failure to me.
People like Ned really need to keep on their toes and wake up.
1. Hung camera (in the first preview video)
2. Sent only a 40XS, when they could have easily sent a cheap legacy 50/1.4 (to show off legacy support), plus a not as cheap DA21 or 70 to better show off how nicely sized a overall K-01 system is.
3. Can't they let him try it for longer?
4. US RRP is atrocious! ~$900 (its only ~$758 here in Singapore with DA40XS)
5. Marketing again failed to brief Steve that is a pretty cheap camera aimed at a entry level (can't they tell him that in their correspondence?); and it comes with a good 40XS (not a cheap kit zoom)

In the end, it gets compared to more expensive NEX7 and even EP3 and gets whacked.

Jean Poitiers · 03-17-2012, 07:17 AM

Originally posted by Basset

Well, it remains to be seen whether the glitch is a rarity. For perspective, read this sad tale from a Leica M9 user and responses from other unfortunates. This from a $7k camera body. BTW, love the guy in the thread who advises purchasing a second M9 as a backup while the first is in the shopt.

Bonjour,

I laughed out loud on this one ... quelle connerie !!!

Salut, John le Frog

Jean Poitiers · 03-17-2012, 07:24 AM

Originally posted by monochrome

Hipster fashion

Classy photo there ... I love tats, because my dad was a criminal defense attorney and I saw lots and lots on his clients. Most done in the can with needles and BIC pens ... classy, just plain classy.

Rico · 03-22-2012, 06:31 AM

Steve Huff posted his review of the K-01. The guy is clueless. For starters he loves Leica but somehow thinks the K-01 is a brick. Leica cameras by definition are bricks. Then he makes a comparison between the K-01 and the NEX-7. The image of the two cameras next to each other contradict everything he is saying. The NEX-7 with that Zeiss 24mm lenses on it is ridiculous. How on earth that contraption is better balanced than the K-01 with any lenses attached is pure delusion on Huff's part.

Huff misses the whole concept of the K-01. Pentax is going to release XS lenses made specifically for the K-01 which will make the K-01 the best balanced mirrorless camera out there. Especially for wide angle lenses. The K-01 with a XS 21mm or 15mm lenses even a 24mm will make the NEX-7 with that Zeiss 24mm look like a joke.

**Rondec** · 03-22-2012, 07:20 AM

Originally posted by Rico

Steve Huff posted his review of the K-01. The guy is clueless. For starters he loves Leica but somehow thinks the K-01 is a brick. Leica cameras by definition are bricks. Then he makes a comparison between the K-01 and the NEX-7. The image of the two cameras next to each other contradict everything he is saying. The NEX-7 with that Zeiss 24mm lenses on it is ridiculous. How on earth that contraption is better balanced than the K-01 with any lenses attached is pure delusion on Huff's part.

Huff misses the whole concept of the K-01. Pentax is going to release XS lenses made specifically for the K-01 which will make the K-01 the best balanced mirrorless camera out there. Especially for wide angle lenses. The K-01 with a XS 21mm or 15mm lenses even a 24mm will make the NEX-7 with that Zeiss 24mm look like a joke.

I think Pentax did him a disservice by not getting him an FA limited or even a couple of DA limiteds to test with the K-01.

Still, I think that the target for this camera is very different from Steve. The K5 would certainly be a lot more his speed. Even if there was an EVF on the camera, I think he would have given it better marks.

I think the biggest thing that this camera has going for it is that it has inspired a lot of discussion about Pentax. That is a good thing. Up till now, Pentax has been notable by its absence from the "serious camera" discussion.

03-16-2012, 03:43 PM - 1 Like	#53
redpigeons Veteran Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: NYC Posts: 943	Steve Huff K-01 full review The Pentax K-01 Camera Review – Design Masterpiece or Design Fail? \| STEVE HUFF PHOTOS full review by Steve huff with sample photos

03-17-2012, 07:06 AM	#56
pinholecam Pentaxian Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: North Photos: Gallery Posts: 4,706	Originally posted by redpigeons The Pentax K-01 Camera Review – Design Masterpiece or Design Fail? \| STEVE HUFF PHOTOS full review by Steve huff with sample photos Kinda expected as I mentioned earlier. Not his kind of fashion statement and camera. Honest enough review though from his standpoint. Total Pentax USA marketing failure to me. People like Ned really need to keep on their toes and wake up. 1. Hung camera (in the first preview video) 2. Sent only a 40XS, when they could have easily sent a cheap legacy 50/1.4 (to show off legacy support), plus a not as cheap DA21 or 70 to better show off how nicely sized a overall K-01 system is. 3. Can't they let him try it for longer? 4. US RRP is atrocious! ~$900 (its only ~$758 here in Singapore with DA40XS) 5. Marketing again failed to brief Steve that is a pretty cheap camera aimed at a entry level (can't they tell him that in their correspondence?); and it comes with a good 40XS (not a cheap kit zoom) In the end, it gets compared to more expensive NEX7 and even EP3 and gets whacked. Last edited by pinholecam; 03-17-2012 at 07:11 AM.

03-17-2012, 07:17 AM	#57
Jean Poitiers Pentaxian Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Lost in translation ... Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 18,076	Pretty funny ... and pretty sad, too Originally posted by Basset Well, it remains to be seen whether the glitch is a rarity. For perspective, read this sad tale from a Leica M9 user and responses from other unfortunates. This from a $7k camera body. BTW, love the guy in the thread who advises purchasing a second M9 as a backup while the first is in the shopt. Bonjour, I laughed out loud on this one ... *quelle connerie !!!* *Salut, John le Frog*

03-17-2012, 07:24 AM	#58
Jean Poitiers Pentaxian Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Lost in translation ... Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 18,076	Cool ... get tats in your fingers Leica users Originally posted by monochrome Hipster fashion Classy photo there ... I love tats, because my dad was a criminal defense attorney and I saw lots and lots on his clients. Most done in the can with needles and BIC pens ... classy, just plain classy.

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03-09-2012, 01:05 PM	#46
riff Veteran Member Join Date: Jun 2011 Photos: Albums Posts: 1,408	Originally posted by JinDesu Was my complaint misplaced? Is it a valid comparison between a K-01 and a k-5 Well it is what it is so complaining accomplishes nothing. Comparing it to the K5 works for me and probably most K5 owners.

03-09-2012, 01:27 PM	#47
redpigeons Veteran Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: NYC Posts: 943	I must say now (something a little out of the subject ) I saw his Leica M9 review , as well I just looked again on some other Leica's pictures. now granted some of the most amazing photographers in the world shoot with the M9 but if for one second you ignore the amazing compositions and subjects and just look at the technique Leica M9 = $7000 + Leica 35mm f2 $3500 V.S K5= about $1000 + a FA31mm LTD about $1000 color, 3d effect , rendering , sharpness , over all feel I am not sure which one I like better , the only thing is that the Leica being a FF will give you amazing opportunities for cropping . but really I know this is a holly issue and I should not even say that , but I just not sure that what you get extra worth $8000

03-09-2012, 01:47 PM	#48
pingflood Veteran Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Borås, Sweden Photos: Gallery Posts: 3,169	Well, the thing is that a lot of cameras are "good enough" now that you would be hard pressed to see a worthwhile difference between them. To add to your example, I bet a Panasonic G3 + 25/1.4 would probably give you similarly excellent results, and it is even smaller and cheaper. There are some nuances to Leica glass that is hard to beat, and the optical performance is arguably better than most everything else, but I wonder in how many shots it really makes a visible difference. Of course, if you want the ultimate, ditch the Leica and get an Alpa with a digital back...

03-09-2012, 03:38 PM	#49
redpigeons Veteran Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: NYC Posts: 943	Originally posted by pingflood Well, the thing is that a lot of cameras are "good enough" now that you would be hard pressed to see a worthwhile difference between them. To add to your example, I bet a Panasonic G3 + 25/1.4 would probably give you similarly excellent results, and it is even smaller and cheaper. There are some nuances to Leica glass that is hard to beat, and the optical performance is arguably better than most everything else, but I wonder in how many shots it really makes a visible difference. Of course, if you want the ultimate, ditch the Leica and get an Alpa with a digital back... omg I never heard about this camera , but just watched some of the videos on youtube , but the time I will get to take a picture with this camera most of my subjects will grow old. but I know what you mean , for an extra $8000 I am assuming some people can see a big difference , I cant thou any way ,

03-09-2012, 05:24 PM	#50
Col Veteran Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Stansted Essex Photos: Gallery Posts: 614	Originally posted by redpigeons omg I never heard about this camera , but just watched some of the videos on youtube , but the time I will get to take a picture with this camera most of my subjects will grow old. but I know what you mean , for an extra $8000 I am assuming some people can see a big difference , I cant thou any way , Oh you can... from the front

03-09-2012, 06:43 PM	#51
Rico Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 1,205	I have a Leica Digilux 1. When I first saw the K-01 I thought they had same similarity in design. The Digilux 1 had great controls. In manual mode the four way controller became how you changed aperture and shutter speed. I find this much better than the wheels on the K-5. I wish we had the option of making the four way controller function that way on the K-5 for manual use. Plus the Digilux 1's LCD view would adjust to show what the exposure looked like when you changed settings. This was tremendously useful in quickly dialing in proper exposure. This review if you can call it a review was ridiculous. Apparently Mr Huff has never handled a brick in his life if he thinks the K-01 is bigger than a brick. The reason the K-01 froze on him was that he was taking the lenses on and off without turning the camera on and off just prior to when it froze.

03-10-2012, 01:26 PM	#52
monochrome Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Working From Home Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 26,276	Originally posted by Col Oh you can... from the front Hipster fashion

03-16-2012, 09:44 PM	#54
Fontan Site Supporter Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: 5th floor Posts: 1,610	Originally posted by redpigeons I must say now (something a little out of the subject ) I saw his Leica M9 review , as well I just looked again on some other Leica's pictures. now granted some of the most amazing photographers in the world shoot with the M9 but if for one second you ignore the amazing compositions and subjects and just look at the technique Leica M9 = $7000 + Leica 35mm f2 $3500 V.S K5= about $1000 + a FA31mm LTD about $1000 color, 3d effect , rendering , sharpness , over all feel I am not sure which one I like better , the only thing is that the Leica being a FF will give you amazing opportunities for cropping . but really I know this is a holly issue and I should not even say that , but I just not sure that what you get extra worth $8000 In short, it is.

03-17-2012, 06:28 AM	#55
ibkc Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: southeastern US Photos: Gallery Posts: 203	Originally posted by redpigeons The Pentax K-01 Camera Review – Design Masterpiece or Design Fail? \| STEVE HUFF PHOTOS full review by Steve huff with sample photos That was amusing. I actually really appreciate his style of "review", which is to go out and just use the camera in real-life shooting situations instead of setting up elaborate tests in his living room (don't get me wrong - the latter kind of review is crucial when performed/written by professionals - it's just nice to have a different kind of review every now and then). His ultra-conversational tone of writing - it's almost like he uses voice-to-text software and leaves it at that - is downright funny, although it gets confusing and frustrating because he repeats himself a lot. His verdict - honest and fair enough. I wound up liking the guy a lot. He's a fanboy of cameras that I can only salivate over in pictures; I can't afford a 40 or 50-year-old Leica in working condition with corresponding lenses, let alone a current model. However despite that, he seems quite unpretentious, and I think I'm going to bookmark his page and check back in occasionally, simply because I like his enthusiasm for photography and cameras in general.

03-22-2012, 06:31 AM	#59
Rico Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 1,205	Steve Huff posted his review of the K-01. The guy is clueless. For starters he loves Leica but somehow thinks the K-01 is a brick. Leica cameras by definition are bricks. Then he makes a comparison between the K-01 and the NEX-7. The image of the two cameras next to each other contradict everything he is saying. The NEX-7 with that Zeiss 24mm lenses on it is ridiculous. How on earth that contraption is better balanced than the K-01 with any lenses attached is pure delusion on Huff's part. Huff misses the whole concept of the K-01. Pentax is going to release XS lenses made specifically for the K-01 which will make the K-01 the best balanced mirrorless camera out there. Especially for wide angle lenses. The K-01 with a XS 21mm or 15mm lenses even a 24mm will make the NEX-7 with that Zeiss 24mm look like a joke.

03-22-2012, 07:20 AM	#60
Rondec Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Gladys, Virginia Photos: Gallery Posts: 27,653	Originally posted by Rico Steve Huff posted his review of the K-01. The guy is clueless. For starters he loves Leica but somehow thinks the K-01 is a brick. Leica cameras by definition are bricks. Then he makes a comparison between the K-01 and the NEX-7. The image of the two cameras next to each other contradict everything he is saying. The NEX-7 with that Zeiss 24mm lenses on it is ridiculous. How on earth that contraption is better balanced than the K-01 with any lenses attached is pure delusion on Huff's part. Huff misses the whole concept of the K-01. Pentax is going to release XS lenses made specifically for the K-01 which will make the K-01 the best balanced mirrorless camera out there. Especially for wide angle lenses. The K-01 with a XS 21mm or 15mm lenses even a 24mm will make the NEX-7 with that Zeiss 24mm look like a joke. I think Pentax did him a disservice by not getting him an FA limited or even a couple of DA limiteds to test with the K-01. Still, I think that the target for this camera is very different from Steve. The K5 would certainly be a lot more his speed. Even if there was an EVF on the camera, I think he would have given it better marks. I think the biggest thing that this camera has going for it is that it has inspired a lot of discussion about Pentax. That is a good thing. Up till now, Pentax has been notable by its absence from the "serious camera" discussion.