Pentax: You've Exceeded My Expectations

**luftfluss** · 03-09-2012, 11:21 AM

I find it incredibly ironic that a key aspect of DSLRs is flexibility, yet so many DSLR users are so inflexible.

krebsy75 · 03-09-2012, 11:28 AM

Hence why the K-01 isn't a DSLR.

Inflexible users need not apply.

Originally posted by luftfluss

I find it incredibly ironic that a key aspect of DSLRs is flexibility, yet so many DSLR users are so inflexible.

jogiba · 03-09-2012, 11:30 AM

The K-01 beats the heck out of the K-5 for my use. Finally after begging for manual control in video mode the K-01 has full manual control of iso, shutter speed and aperture in video mode. It also beats the K-5 with 1080p30,25,24 and 720p60 h.264.

**luftfluss** · 03-09-2012, 11:37 AM

Originally posted by krebsy97

Hence why the K-01 isn't a DSLR.

Inflexible users need not apply.

I was poking at the DSLR users who seem upset with the K-01, not referencing the K-01 itself.

**monochrome** · 03-09-2012, 12:07 PM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by luftfluss

I find it incredibly ironic that a key aspect of DSLRs is flexibility, yet so many DSLR users are so inflexible.

Originally posted by krebsy97

Hence why the K-01 isn't a DSLR.

Inflexible users need not apply.

In their defense many (most?) dSLR users here have waited, and waited, and waited for a FF camera - even for a K-5 replacement - while Pentax continues its frustrating, seemingly uneconomic product development plan. They wait for Pentax USA to start marketing (not realizing that P-USA has outsourced virtually EVERY business function a distributor should normally provide). Hell, they've been waiting 6 months for a K-5 replacement; better autofocus; better flash sync - FFS, better flashes; long lenses; DC motors or HSM or SDM that works; better service.

What's the big CES drop? A compact??? But wait - there's a rumor for CP+ - - - aaaaaand its the K-01. Thud. Nikon boys got their new toys. Canon, Fuji, Sony, Oly - everybody else got really cool new toys for the spring shooting season - and we got . . . wait for it . . . Mark Newson????

I'd be disappointed, too.

What they don't seem to realize is that if Pentax makes only $100 a K-01 unit this year, and they sell 100,000 units, that's $10,000,000.

That buys a lot of engineers. Or marketing; Or amortization of PrimeM. Or (investment in) losses on the first FF Pentax body.

Rather than calling the K-01 a FAIL, and making me feel like an ignoramous for waiting patiently until my Black one gets here while others have thiers and for being so "unserious" (someone actually PM'ed me they wouldn't read my review because I'm not a "serious" photgrapher) - rather than kneecapping Pentax repeatedly, day after day after day - they should be shouting from the rooftops how great the camera is (though its not for them) and PRAYING that Pentax has a runaway hit!!!

Instead they accuse Pentax of being unserious and cutie-pie - God forbid, not another colored camera (that Japanese young women scooped up by the 1000's).

So - I empathize with you - I feel your pain - but (not directed at a postrer on this thread) oh my everyone, shut the F#$% up about everything wrong with the camera. It's going to be a great camera and for my uses probably the best thing out there.

And if one more person tells me Pentax screwed the pooch and what I really need (but I'm not experienced enough to know it) is MFT - well, then, I'm outta here. (Well. no, that's not true. Mainly because the next post will start, "Pentax screwed the pooch . . . ").

sjwaldron · 03-09-2012, 12:09 PM

I don't know how someone could call a camera a failure without actually holding it your hands... at least once.

The K-01 isn't suppose to replace anything existing in the Pentax lineup. I think it was a good product to say that Pentax can do video properly, and also show that existing 35mm mounts are still very capable with all of these mirrorless mounts cropping up.

Had they gone straight black for the headline body and not the oddly placed silver bits on top of black, I don't think it would have had as much backlash against the look of the camera...

asahi · 03-09-2012, 12:13 PM

Just wish my K-01 was arriving as fast as some of you are getting yours.

JinDesu · 03-09-2012, 12:21 PM

"Pentax fails because it doesn't give me what I want"

Maybe users should be using that line instead of "Product from Pentax fails"

Rupert · 03-09-2012, 06:47 PM

We have a K5 "Post your K5 Photos" thread.....want to shut people up, start your own and lets see what you can do? Nothing say success like great photos, and the K5 has page after page of them........get busy out there with those K-01's! A few good Squirrel shots might win over Otis.......you never know!

Regards!

krebsy75 · 03-09-2012, 06:57 PM

We tried the focus peaking feature tonight. AWESOME!. Finally, manual focus without fussing with focus screens.

We also tried our DA 35mm Limited macro. AF was terrible in our incandescent lit rim. Luckily, manual focus is an option.

**luftfluss** · 03-09-2012, 08:10 PM

Originally posted by monochrome

So - I empathize with you - I feel your pain - but (not directed at a postrer on this thread) oh my everyone, shut the F#$% up about everything wrong with the camera. It's going to be a great camera and for my uses probably the best thing out there.

I agree with your entire post. And I especially agree with your statements I've quoted. If I bought a 645D and then complained that I couldn't get any good BIF shots, people would scream at me that I bought the wrong tool for my need. I look at the K-01 the same way; it fits a specific set of needs, and it will hopefully excel and generate profit and enthusiasm for Pentax, which in turn will spur development of new gear.

**luftfluss** · 03-09-2012, 08:11 PM

Originally posted by krebsy97

We tried the focus peaking feature tonight. AWESOME!. Finally, manual focus without fussing with focus screens.

We also tried our DA 35mm Limited macro. AF was terrible in our incandescent lit rim. Luckily, manual focus is an option.

Hmmm... is the DA35 the only lens that is associated with this "terrible" AF?

krebsy75 · 03-09-2012, 08:27 PM

So far, yes. It was unusable and a bit disappointing. Perhaps this lens will perform better with more ambient light.

Our 20 x 15 living room is lit with two torch lamps that have 150 watt incandescent bulbs.

Originally posted by luftfluss

Hmmm... is the DA35 the only lens that is associated with this "terrible" AF?

JinDesu · 03-09-2012, 08:35 PM

Have you tried other F2.8 or slower lenses?

**monochrome** · 03-09-2012, 09:04 PM

Originally posted by Rupert

We have a K5 "Post your K5 Photos" thread.....want to shut people up, start your own and lets see what you can do? Nothing say success like great photos, and the K5 has page after page of them........get busy out there with those K-01's! A few good Squirrel shots might win over Otis.......you never know!

Regards!

That's the plan. Considering how many posters here actually have held a K-01 as of today I stand by my comment regarding silence.

03-09-2012, 11:30 AM	#33
jogiba Banned Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Millstone,NJ Posts: 6,491	The K-01 beats the heck out of the K-5 for my use. Finally after begging for manual control in video mode the K-01 has full manual control of iso, shutter speed and aperture in video mode. It also beats the K-5 with 1080p30,25,24 and 720p60 h.264. Last edited by jogiba; 03-09-2012 at 11:43 AM.

03-09-2012, 12:07 PM - 1 Like	#35
monochrome Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Working From Home Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 26,276	and we got . . . wait for it . . . Mark Newson???? Originally posted by luftfluss I find it incredibly ironic that a key aspect of DSLRs is flexibility, yet so many DSLR users are so inflexible. Originally posted by krebsy97 Hence why the K-01 isn't a DSLR. Inflexible users need not apply. In their defense many (most?) dSLR users here have waited, and waited, and waited for a FF camera - even for a K-5 replacement - while Pentax continues its frustrating, seemingly uneconomic product development plan. They wait for Pentax USA to start marketing (not realizing that P-USA has outsourced virtually EVERY business function a distributor should normally provide). Hell, they've been waiting 6 months for a K-5 replacement; better autofocus; better flash sync - FFS, better flashes; long lenses; DC motors or HSM or SDM that works; better service. What's the big CES drop? A compact??? But wait - there's a rumor for CP+ - - - aaaaaand its the K-01. Thud. Nikon boys got their new toys. Canon, Fuji, Sony, Oly - everybody else got really cool new toys for the spring shooting season - and we got . . . wait for it . . . *Mark Newson????* I'd be disappointed, too. What they don't seem to realize is that if Pentax makes only $100 a K-01 unit this year, and they sell 100,000 units, that's $10,000,000. That buys a lot of engineers. Or marketing; Or amortization of PrimeM. Or (investment in) losses on the first FF Pentax body. Rather than calling the K-01 a FAIL, and making me feel like an ignoramous for waiting patiently until my Black one gets here while others have thiers and for being so "unserious" (someone actually PM'ed me they wouldn't read my review because I'm not a "serious" photgrapher) - rather than kneecapping Pentax repeatedly, day after day after day - they should be shouting from the rooftops how great the camera is (though its not for them) and PRAYING that Pentax has a runaway hit!!! Instead they accuse Pentax of being unserious and cutie-pie - God forbid, not another colored camera (that Japanese young women scooped up by the 1000's). So - I empathize with you - I feel your pain - but (not directed at a postrer on this thread) oh my everyone, shut the F#$% up about everything wrong with the camera. It's going to be a great camera and for my uses probably the best thing out there. And if one more person tells me Pentax screwed the pooch and what I really need (but I'm not experienced enough to know it) is MFT - well, then, I'm outta here. (Well. no, that's not true. Mainly because the next post will start, "Pentax screwed the pooch . . . "). Last edited by monochrome; 03-09-2012 at 12:24 PM.

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03-09-2012, 11:21 AM	#31
luftfluss Site Supporter Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: NJ Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 11,619	I find it incredibly ironic that a key aspect of DSLRs is flexibility, yet so many DSLR users are so inflexible.

03-09-2012, 11:28 AM	#32
krebsy75 Veteran Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Chester County, Pa. Posts: 804 Original Poster	Hence why the K-01 isn't a DSLR. Inflexible users need not apply. Originally posted by luftfluss I find it incredibly ironic that a key aspect of DSLRs is flexibility, yet so many DSLR users are so inflexible.

03-09-2012, 11:37 AM	#34
luftfluss Site Supporter Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: NJ Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 11,619	Originally posted by krebsy97 Hence why the K-01 isn't a DSLR. Inflexible users need not apply. I was poking at the DSLR users who seem upset with the K-01, not referencing the K-01 itself.

03-09-2012, 12:09 PM	#36
sjwaldron Veteran Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Photos: Gallery Posts: 1,235	I don't know how someone could call a camera a failure without actually holding it your hands... at least once. The K-01 isn't suppose to replace anything existing in the Pentax lineup. I think it was a good product to say that Pentax can do video properly, and also show that existing 35mm mounts are still very capable with all of these mirrorless mounts cropping up. Had they gone straight black for the headline body and not the oddly placed silver bits on top of black, I don't think it would have had as much backlash against the look of the camera...

03-09-2012, 12:13 PM	#37
asahi Forum Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Holliston, MA Photos: Gallery Posts: 69	Just wish my K-01 was arriving as fast as some of you are getting yours.

03-09-2012, 12:21 PM	#38
JinDesu Veteran Member Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: New York City Photos: Gallery Posts: 5,638	"Pentax fails because it doesn't give me what I want" Maybe users should be using that line instead of "Product from Pentax fails"

03-09-2012, 06:47 PM	#39
Rupert Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Texas Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 25,123	We have a K5 "Post your K5 Photos" thread.....want to shut people up, start your own and lets see what you can do? Nothing say success like great photos, and the K5 has page after page of them........get busy out there with those K-01's! A few good Squirrel shots might win over Otis.......you never know! Regards!

03-09-2012, 06:57 PM	#40
krebsy75 Veteran Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Chester County, Pa. Posts: 804 Original Poster	We tried the focus peaking feature tonight. AWESOME!. Finally, manual focus without fussing with focus screens. We also tried our DA 35mm Limited macro. AF was terrible in our incandescent lit rim. Luckily, manual focus is an option.

03-09-2012, 08:10 PM	#41
luftfluss Site Supporter Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: NJ Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 11,619	Originally posted by monochrome So - I empathize with you - I feel your pain - but (not directed at a postrer on this thread) oh my everyone, shut the F#$% up about everything wrong with the camera. It's going to be a great camera and for my uses probably the best thing out there. I agree with your entire post. And I especially agree with your statements I've quoted. If I bought a 645D and then complained that I couldn't get any good BIF shots, people would scream at me that I bought the wrong tool for my need. I look at the K-01 the same way; it fits a specific set of needs, and it will hopefully excel and generate profit and enthusiasm for Pentax, which in turn will spur development of new gear.

03-09-2012, 08:11 PM	#42
luftfluss Site Supporter Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: NJ Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 11,619	Originally posted by krebsy97 We tried the focus peaking feature tonight. AWESOME!. Finally, manual focus without fussing with focus screens. We also tried our DA 35mm Limited macro. AF was terrible in our incandescent lit rim. Luckily, manual focus is an option. Hmmm... is the DA35 the only lens that is associated with this "terrible" AF?

03-09-2012, 08:27 PM	#43
krebsy75 Veteran Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Chester County, Pa. Posts: 804 Original Poster	So far, yes. It was unusable and a bit disappointing. Perhaps this lens will perform better with more ambient light. Our 20 x 15 living room is lit with two torch lamps that have 150 watt incandescent bulbs. Originally posted by luftfluss Hmmm... is the DA35 the only lens that is associated with this "terrible" AF?

03-09-2012, 08:35 PM	#44
JinDesu Veteran Member Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: New York City Photos: Gallery Posts: 5,638	Have you tried other F2.8 or slower lenses?

03-09-2012, 09:04 PM	#45
monochrome Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Working From Home Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 26,276	Originally posted by Rupert We have a K5 "Post your K5 Photos" thread.....want to shut people up, start your own and lets see what you can do? Nothing say success like great photos, and the K5 has page after page of them........get busy out there with those K-01's! A few good Squirrel shots might win over Otis.......you never know! Regards! That's the plan. Considering how many posters here actually have held a K-01 as of today I stand by my comment regarding silence.