Question about K-01.

fstdslrkx · 03-21-2012, 02:35 PM

I just read on "the other site" hands on preview

that K-01 cannot do stop down metering and the option is to shoot pre-A lenses wide open only. Not going to buy it, but i did heavily promoted it to someone with lots of old Pentax lenses and told him that it would work just like on my K-5 plus focus peeking. Should i call the guy (hoping he did not order it yet) or it is the hickup of that site?
Thank you in advance.

**boriscleto** · 03-21-2012, 02:44 PM

The "other site" is wrong.

fstdslrkx · 03-21-2012, 03:32 PM

Thank you, they changed the article too.

WWWench · 03-21-2012, 09:22 PM

My My -- did that same reviewer mention it's impossible to find Falafel in Israel?

utopian · 03-21-2012, 11:40 PM

the default step down metering is done by pressing the green button in M mode, and depth of field preview is done by holding down the ev button in M mode

deadwolfbones · 03-22-2012, 09:26 AM

Pentax's method certainly isn't as elegant as the way Nikon (for example) handles it, but it works just fine.

Photodana · 03-28-2012, 10:17 AM

I got mine last week. I found, that it's quite nice. Image quality is OK, but not par with K-5. However I found one HUGE design error: The right hand side rubber lid over the SD-card compartment. What a drag! When holding the camera in the right hand, the rubber cover opens - causing the user to accidently dropping the camera! This is simply not good enough, Mr. Newson. How can you make an obvious huge mistake like this? All these brilliant ideas and efforts - and then this huge blunder!
Didn't you organize user tests? I guess I will have to live with that, but I'm afraid many potential buyers may very well back off, as soon as they realize this big design mistake - BIG MISTAKE, Mr. Newson!
Regards
Jens

Adam · 03-28-2012, 10:23 AM

Originally posted by Photodana

Image quality is OK, but not par with K-5

The raw IQ should be identical- we're looking at the same sensor here, and on top of that they've improved the JPEG processing algorithms.

I agree about the rubber cover in that it's tedious to secure, but once it's closed, I didn't have any problems. The major design flaw that I found is that the green button is hard to get to. It should have been on the back of the camera, or at least interchanged with the red button.

**monochrome** · 03-28-2012, 10:29 AM

Originally posted by Photodana

I got mine last week. I found, that it's quite nice. Image quality is OK, but not par with K-5. However I found one HUGE design error: The right hand side rubber lid over the SD-card compartment. What a drag! When holding the camera in the right hand, the rubber cover opens - causing the user to accidently dropping the camera! This is simply not good enough, Mr. Newson. How can you make an obvious huge mistake like this? All these brilliant ideas and efforts - and then this huge blunder!
Didn't you organize user tests? I guess I will have to live with that, but I'm afraid many potential buyers may very well back off, as soon as they realize this big design mistake - BIG MISTAKE, Mr. Newson!
Regards
Jens

You slide the door open by sliding it out as if it is hard metal or plastic, and close the door by sliding it back into the grooves parallel to the body. If you "pry" the door up and press it down it doesn't open easily and doesn't close properly. I don't have any problems at all with the door on my K-01. It closes and stays closed.

Photodana · 03-28-2012, 10:42 AM

Mine must be faulty then - the rubber door is easily opened - by accident - when holding the camera in just one hand - the right one! I don't like the way this door works. I haven't droped it yet, since I know this, but I'm sure I will, some day.
Regards
Jens

**monochrome** · 03-28-2012, 10:54 AM

Well I've never held a camera in just one hand so perhaps I haven't experienced whatever causes your door to open.

ibkc · 03-28-2012, 04:06 PM

Originally posted by Photodana

Mine must be faulty then - the rubber door is easily opened - by accident - when holding the camera in just one hand - the right one! I don't like the way this door works. I haven't droped it yet, since I know this, but I'm sure I will, some day.
Regards
Jens

If the door is opening while you're holding it, then you haven't been closing it correctly. To reiterate what monochrome said: to close the door, slide it into place until it fits into the grooves. Then lightly press down on it to seal it. Do not attempt to close it like a door. Doing so will ensure that it keeps coming open, or catching on your fingers or your strap or whatever.

Once you see how the door is supposed to be closed, you'll get an "Ah-ha!" moment, and then every time after you will be able to close it quickly and easily without a thought. But I absolutely agree that this is a terrible design and not at all intuitive.

03-21-2012, 02:35 PM	#1
fstdslrkx Forum Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Israel Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 55	Question about K-01. I just read on "the other site" hands on preview that K-01 cannot do stop down metering and the option is to shoot pre-A lenses wide open only. Not going to buy it, but i did heavily promoted it to someone with lots of old Pentax lenses and told him that it would work just like on my K-5 plus focus peeking. Should i call the guy (hoping he did not order it yet) or it is the hickup of that site? Thank you in advance.

03-28-2012, 10:23 AM	#8
Adam Administrator Site Webmaster Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Arizona Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 51,166	Originally posted by Photodana Image quality is OK, but not par with K-5 The raw IQ should be identical- we're looking at the same sensor here, and on top of that they've improved the JPEG processing algorithms. I agree about the rubber cover in that it's tedious to secure, but once it's closed, I didn't have any problems. The major design flaw that I found is that the green button is hard to get to. It should have been on the back of the camera, or at least interchanged with the red button. Adam PentaxForums.com Webmaster (Site Usage Guide \| Site Help \| My Photography) PentaxForums.com server and development costs are user-supported. You can help cover these costs by donating. Or, buy your photo gear from our affiliates, Adorama, B&H Photo, KEH, or Topaz Labs, and get FREE Marketplace access - click here to see how! Trusted Pentax retailers:

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fstdslrkx Forum Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Israel Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 55 Original Poster	Thank you, they changed the article too.

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03-21-2012, 11:40 PM	#5
utopian New Member Join Date: Feb 2012 Posts: 13	the default step down metering is done by pressing the green button in M mode, and depth of field preview is done by holding down the ev button in M mode

03-22-2012, 09:26 AM	#6
deadwolfbones Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: La Crescenta, CA Posts: 7,450	Pentax's method certainly isn't as elegant as the way Nikon (for example) handles it, but it works just fine.

03-28-2012, 10:17 AM	#7
Photodana Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Greater Copenhagen Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 160	I got mine last week. I found, that it's quite nice. Image quality is OK, but not par with K-5. However I found one HUGE design error: The right hand side rubber lid over the SD-card compartment. What a drag! When holding the camera in the right hand, the rubber cover opens - causing the user to accidently dropping the camera! This is simply not good enough, Mr. Newson. How can you make an obvious huge mistake like this? All these brilliant ideas and efforts - and then this huge blunder! Didn't you organize user tests? I guess I will have to live with that, but I'm afraid many potential buyers may very well back off, as soon as they realize this big design mistake - BIG MISTAKE, Mr. Newson! Regards Jens

03-28-2012, 10:29 AM	#9
monochrome Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Working From Home Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 26,276	Originally posted by Photodana I got mine last week. I found, that it's quite nice. Image quality is OK, but not par with K-5. However I found one HUGE design error: The right hand side rubber lid over the SD-card compartment. What a drag! When holding the camera in the right hand, the rubber cover opens - causing the user to accidently dropping the camera! This is simply not good enough, Mr. Newson. How can you make an obvious huge mistake like this? All these brilliant ideas and efforts - and then this huge blunder! Didn't you organize user tests? I guess I will have to live with that, but I'm afraid many potential buyers may very well back off, as soon as they realize this big design mistake - BIG MISTAKE, Mr. Newson! Regards Jens You slide the door open by sliding it out as if it is hard metal or plastic, and close the door by sliding it back into the grooves parallel to the body. If you "pry" the door up and press it down it doesn't open easily and doesn't close properly. I don't have any problems at all with the door on my K-01. It closes and stays closed.

03-28-2012, 10:42 AM	#10
Photodana Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Greater Copenhagen Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 160	Mine must be faulty then - the rubber door is easily opened - by accident - when holding the camera in just one hand - the right one! I don't like the way this door works. I haven't droped it yet, since I know this, but I'm sure I will, some day. Regards Jens

03-28-2012, 10:54 AM	#11
monochrome Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Working From Home Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 26,276	Well I've never held a camera in just one hand so perhaps I haven't experienced whatever causes your door to open.

03-28-2012, 04:06 PM	#12
ibkc Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: southeastern US Photos: Gallery Posts: 203	Originally posted by Photodana Mine must be faulty then - the rubber door is easily opened - by accident - when holding the camera in just one hand - the right one! I don't like the way this door works. I haven't droped it yet, since I know this, but I'm sure I will, some day. Regards Jens If the door is opening while you're holding it, then you haven't been closing it correctly. To reiterate what monochrome said: to close the door, slide it into place until it fits into the grooves. Then lightly press down on it to seal it. Do not attempt to close it like a door. Doing so will ensure that it keeps coming open, or catching on your fingers or your strap or whatever. Once you see how the door is supposed to be closed, you'll get an "Ah-ha!" moment, and then every time after you will be able to close it quickly and easily without a thought. But I absolutely agree that this is a terrible design and not at all intuitive.

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