40 ltd vs kit 40 pancakes

slackercruster · 07-11-2012, 04:19 PM

Anyone up grade the K-01 standard 40 pancake kit lens to the 40 ltd? Did you notice a worthwhile IQ change between the two lenses?

fotogaffer · 07-11-2012, 05:03 PM

I have both lenses. You can check the excellent review posted on this forum comparing the image quality between these lenses. I don't see much difference in everyday use to justify an "upgrade" to the 40 limited. However, the filter size of the 40 limited is what makes the difference for me, as I can share filters (UV, CP, ND) with my other limiteds with the same 49 mm filter diameter. The 27 mm filter diameter of the 40 XS is an odd size and I'm not keen on acquiring another set of filters in this size if and when available. I find myself using the 40 XS almost like a body cap that doubles for quick snaps, but if I take the K-01 on an outing I am more likely to put on the 40 limited and take along the 21 and 70 DA limiteds and some accessory filters.

Docrwm · 07-11-2012, 05:38 PM

Originally posted by fotogaffer

I have both lenses. You can check the excellent review posted on this forum comparing the image quality between these lenses. I don't see much difference in everyday use to justify an "upgrade" to the 40 limited. However, the filter size of the 40 limited is what makes the difference for me, as I can share filters (UV, CP, ND) with my other limiteds with the same 49 mm filter diameter. The 27 mm filter diameter of the 40 XS is an odd size and I'm not keen on acquiring another set of filters in this size if and when available. I find myself using the 40 XS almost like a body cap that doubles for quick snaps, but if I take the K-01 on an outing I am more likely to put on the 40 limited and take along the 21 and 70 DA limiteds and some accessory filters.

The review that just went up was not kind to the 40Ltd with some real issues with sharpness. The 40XS appeared to do better in a number of ways. Do you have the same issues with your pair, or do you think the reviewer got a bum copy of the 40Ltd?

fotogaffer · 07-11-2012, 05:46 PM

Originally posted by Docrwm

The review that just went up was not kind to the 40Ltd with some real issues with sharpness. The 40XS appeared to do better in a number of ways. Do you have the same issues with your pair, or do you think the reviewer got a bum copy of the 40Ltd?

I noticed that too, and I can say I don't see the same thing at all. I find my 40 DA limited to be quite sharp and I really think he had a bad copy of the lens which was also a concern that he expressed in the review.

twitch · 07-11-2012, 05:51 PM

Although I no longer own it, the DA40 I had was very sharp wide open.

Docrwm · 07-11-2012, 05:59 PM

Thanks fotogaffer and twitch. I know that twitch has nearly every limited and respect his work and agree with each of you that something seems amiss with that report. I just posted a criticism of the review in the 35 vs. 40Ltd vs. 40XS thread.

https://www.pentaxforums.com/forums/pentax-slr-lens-discussion/191518-35mm-2-...ml#post2020975

twitch · 07-11-2012, 06:05 PM

I think we should be fair to deadwolfbones, the review is very much appreciated and seems to have been done very well, it's obviously not his fault he got a dud 40ltd though.

Docrwm · 07-11-2012, 06:08 PM

Originally posted by twitch

I think we should be fair to deadwolfbones, the review is very much appreciated and seems to have been done very well, it's obviously not his fault he got a dud 40ltd though.

Yes I agree with you. I certainly appreciate anyone taking the time to do a review of that magnitude. My concern is that it went to press with what appears to be a dud lens, instead of redoing it with another copy of the lens.

07-11-2012, 04:19 PM	#1
slackercruster Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: NE, USA Posts: 1,302	40 ltd vs kit 40 pancakes Anyone up grade the K-01 standard 40 pancake kit lens to the 40 ltd? Did you notice a worthwhile IQ change between the two lenses?

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07-11-2012, 05:03 PM	#2
fotogaffer Veteran Member Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Niagara Region, Ontario, Canada Photos: Gallery Posts: 716	I have both lenses. You can check the excellent review posted on this forum comparing the image quality between these lenses. I don't see much difference in everyday use to justify an "upgrade" to the 40 limited. However, the filter size of the 40 limited is what makes the difference for me, as I can share filters (UV, CP, ND) with my other limiteds with the same 49 mm filter diameter. The 27 mm filter diameter of the 40 XS is an odd size and I'm not keen on acquiring another set of filters in this size if and when available. I find myself using the 40 XS almost like a body cap that doubles for quick snaps, but if I take the K-01 on an outing I am more likely to put on the 40 limited and take along the 21 and 70 DA limiteds and some accessory filters.

07-11-2012, 05:38 PM	#3
Docrwm Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Somewhere in the Southern US Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 12,285	Originally posted by fotogaffer I have both lenses. You can check the excellent review posted on this forum comparing the image quality between these lenses. I don't see much difference in everyday use to justify an "upgrade" to the 40 limited. However, the filter size of the 40 limited is what makes the difference for me, as I can share filters (UV, CP, ND) with my other limiteds with the same 49 mm filter diameter. The 27 mm filter diameter of the 40 XS is an odd size and I'm not keen on acquiring another set of filters in this size if and when available. I find myself using the 40 XS almost like a body cap that doubles for quick snaps, but if I take the K-01 on an outing I am more likely to put on the 40 limited and take along the 21 and 70 DA limiteds and some accessory filters. The review that just went up was not kind to the 40Ltd with some real issues with sharpness. The 40XS appeared to do better in a number of ways. Do you have the same issues with your pair, or do you think the reviewer got a bum copy of the 40Ltd?

07-11-2012, 05:46 PM	#4
fotogaffer Veteran Member Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Niagara Region, Ontario, Canada Photos: Gallery Posts: 716	Originally posted by Docrwm The review that just went up was not kind to the 40Ltd with some real issues with sharpness. The 40XS appeared to do better in a number of ways. Do you have the same issues with your pair, or do you think the reviewer got a bum copy of the 40Ltd? I noticed that too, and I can say I don't see the same thing at all. I find my 40 DA limited to be quite sharp and I really think he had a bad copy of the lens which was also a concern that he expressed in the review.

07-11-2012, 05:51 PM	#5
twitch Veteran Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 4,571	Although I no longer own it, the DA40 I had was very sharp wide open.

07-11-2012, 05:59 PM	#6
Docrwm Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Somewhere in the Southern US Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 12,285	Thanks fotogaffer and twitch. I know that twitch has nearly every limited and respect his work and agree with each of you that something seems amiss with that report. I just posted a criticism of the review in the 35 vs. 40Ltd vs. 40XS thread. https://www.pentaxforums.com/forums/pentax-slr-lens-discussion/191518-35mm-2-...ml#post2020975

07-11-2012, 06:05 PM	#7
twitch Veteran Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 4,571	I think we should be fair to deadwolfbones, the review is very much appreciated and seems to have been done very well, it's obviously not his fault he got a dud 40ltd though.

07-11-2012, 06:08 PM	#8
Docrwm Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Somewhere in the Southern US Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 12,285	Originally posted by twitch I think we should be fair to deadwolfbones, the review is very much appreciated and seems to have been done very well, it's obviously not his fault he got a dud 40ltd though. Yes I agree with you. I certainly appreciate anyone taking the time to do a review of that magnitude. My concern is that it went to press with what appears to be a dud lens, instead of redoing it with another copy of the lens.