All the K-01 hate?

kkennally · 12-10-2012, 04:43 PM

I recently bought two K-01 bodies from B&H (Black) and (yellow). My main camera has been the K-5 for the past year and when the price dropped on theK-01 I just had to get a couple. Now, as I read through threads and reviews on the internet I see allot of unfounded criticism of the K-01. Have any of these so called photo experts ever handled the Sony Nex-5n? I have.....And I can tell you that the K-01 is far superior in ergonomics, physical appearance and image quality! I have also owned the Olympus E-P2 which I really liked but the image quality was also lacking compared to the better APS-C sensors.

I just don't get it.

For anyone that is worried about the rubber door cover....Call 720-988-2653 and order a spare.

That being said......Can anyone recommend a good sling bag for the k-01?

Last edited by kkennally; 12-10-2012 at 04:52 PM.

Adam · 12-10-2012, 04:50 PM

Apart from the AF, the location of the green button, and the door, it really is a great camera. And it's certainly the best value out there at the moment!

pxpaulx · 12-10-2012, 04:59 PM

Originally posted by Adam

Apart from the AF, the location of the green button, and the door, it really is a great camera. And it's certainly the best value out there at the moment!

definitely can't beat the value, easily a great backup camera, or for primary use too! If you are looking for a relatively small sling bag, check out what case logic has on amazon (I know, case logic....but they are actually pretty decent, and I've had my fair share of bags!)

Docrwm · 12-10-2012, 05:11 PM

Congratulations on your 2 new K-01s.

clatrell · 12-10-2012, 05:48 PM

Originally posted by kkennally

I recently bought two K-01 bodies from B&H (Black) and (yellow). My main camera has been the K-5 for the past year and when the price dropped on theK-01 I just had to get a couple. Now, as I read through threads and reviews on the internet I see allot of unfounded criticism of the K-01. Have any of these so called photo experts ever handled the Sony Nex-5n? I have.....And I can tell you that the K-01 is far superior in ergonomics, physical appearance and image quality! I have also owned the Olympus E-P2 which I really liked but the image quality was also lacking compared to the better APS-C sensors.

I just don't get it.

For anyone that is worried about the rubber door cover....Call 720-988-2653 and order a spare.

That being said......Can anyone recommend a good sling bag for the k-01?

I agree with you, and I think a lot of the hate is really because it just looks different, and people are afraid that they won't look sufficiently "serious" with the K-01. I personally find it a pleasure to use, coming from the K-X. But it's so much easier to just be derisive, isn't it?

**Jacquot** · 12-10-2012, 06:02 PM

Yep, there's a lot of K-01 hate around, I never understood it either, just enjoy the camera.

Blue · 12-10-2012, 06:07 PM

Haters gonna hate. Most of the comes from people that don't own one.

**Rondec** · 12-10-2012, 06:16 PM

I think the issues that people are bothered by are the fact that there is no EVF and many people had hoped that Pentax would shorten the registration distance to allow for use of non-K mount lenses on it. At the initial price of 600-ish dollars, it was pretty hard to sell at 315, I can't seen any one taking issue with it.

Blue · 12-10-2012, 06:21 PM

Originally posted by Rondec

I think the issues that people are bothered by are the fact that there is no EVF and many people had hoped that Pentax would shorten the registration distance to allow for use of non-K mount lenses on it. At the initial price of 600-ish dollars, it was pretty hard to sell at 315, I can't seen any one taking issue with it.

Thing is, without the K-mount, I wouldn't have been interested in the least. One of the hard sell for me was spending money on the m4/3 stuff for lenses like the Oly 12 and 45 when I already have a set of Limited lenses etc. The m4/3 zooms suck and the primes just started accumulating on the scene the past 1.5 years with exception of the recent Sigma 19 and 30mm. I have a m4/3 K-mount adapter with aperture controls for the DA limiteds. With the K-01, the AF works.

LeRolls · 12-10-2012, 06:30 PM

The K Mount support was one of the big reasons I went with the K-01 over other mirrorless cameras and I didn't even own any K Mount lenses. I just really liked knowing that there was a wealth of great options out there and available to me when it came to glass. If I had it to do all over again I'd have made the exact same choices. Absolutely love both of my Pentax mirrorless shooters! This coming from a guy who also has a very capable Canon T3i sitting in the other room mostly collection dust. Actually, it's great for quality video work but you get the idea.

kkennally · 12-10-2012, 06:46 PM

Quote:

I think the issues that people are bothered by are the fact that there is no EVF and many people had hoped that Pentax would shorten the registration distance to allow for use of non-K mount lenses on it. At the initial price of 600-ish dollars, it was pretty hard to sell at 315, I can't seen any one taking issue with it.

Look at the EOS M
Slower autofocus, no EVF but the professional reviewers are not getting on Canon about this design.

What Digital Camera gives the Nex-5n a score of 90% and gives the K-01 69%??? I owned the Nex-5n for 3 days and sent it back due to the horrible ergonomics and clicking noise during video.

**THoog** · 12-10-2012, 07:20 PM - **1 Like**

The K-01 doesn't fit into regular categories, and that turned off many non-Pentax users (who didn't see the value of the only mirrorless with a legacy mount), and many Pentax users (who didn't see the value of a K-mount without an EVF). With photographers' unfortunate tendency to blast anything that doesn't fit their personal requirements or expectations, you quickly have a hate-fest. It didn't help that Pentax priced it badly, marketed it badly (wait, Pentax markets things?), and released it with firmware 1.00 with its issues

I bought my (first) K-01 in part to spite the haters, and because I thought it would be quiet for museum shooting. I quickly found that the non-dSLR shape and LCD-only focusing pushed me to shoot one-handed from angles that wouldn't occur to me with my eye glued to the viewfinder. While I'm not giving up my dSLRs, I really enjoy my brick.

Medium FormatPro · 12-10-2012, 07:30 PM

Originally posted by THoog

With photographers' unfortunate tendency to blast anything that doesn't fit their personal requirements or expectations, you quickly have a hate-fest. It didn't help that Pentax priced it badly, marketed it badly (wait, Pentax markets things?)

Leica mirrorless; never marketed, costs 2k, well received by even people whom have been shooting Leica for many, many decades. Pentax's lack of marketing along with willingnessness to properly address fullframe will likely kill of the company.

**THoog** · 12-10-2012, 07:53 PM

Originally posted by Medium FormatPro

Leica mirrorless; never marketed, costs 2k, well received by even people whom have been shooting Leica for many, many decades. Pentax's lack of marketing along with willingnessness to properly address fullframe will likely kill of the company.

They've definitely been wrong-footed on an 'economy' FF model - they missed their chance to hit their usual note of "smaller and cheaper with better features" before the D600 and 6D hit the streets.

I'm still hoping (perhaps foolishly) that Ricoh will make a difference. I don't know about other markets, but under Hoya, Pentax seemed determined to avoid selling in the US market as much as possible. It's hard to believe that I first learned about the K100D, in 2007 (just before the Hoya merger), by seeing an ad on the side of a subway train in Boston. Actual advertising! Did I dream it?

alamm001 · 12-11-2012, 02:47 AM

I got mine mainly for video. The idea of shooting HD video with my old pentax glass, at that price point, was hard to resist.

For $350, I can get past all the faults for video (no hdmi monitoring, fixed LCD, compression,no vu meter,..). All except that it has no movie manual exposure mode with M series glass.

If I had known it didnt offer manual exposure with older primes, I probably would have passed. Wish the documentation had been more clear on this. Not really sure if this makes me a hater or not.

The camera is definitely fun to use otherwise and I'll definitely keep it (even if I do "hate" on it, a little

).

12-10-2012, 04:43 PM	#1
kkennally Junior Member Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Portland, Maine Photos: Albums Posts: 26	All the K-01 hate? I recently bought two K-01 bodies from B&H (Black) and (yellow). My main camera has been the K-5 for the past year and when the price dropped on theK-01 I just had to get a couple. Now, as I read through threads and reviews on the internet I see allot of unfounded criticism of the K-01. Have any of these so called photo experts ever handled the Sony Nex-5n? I have.....And I can tell you that the K-01 is far superior in ergonomics, physical appearance and image quality! I have also owned the Olympus E-P2 which I really liked but the image quality was also lacking compared to the better APS-C sensors. I just don't get it. For anyone that is worried about the rubber door cover....Call 720-988-2653 and order a spare. That being said......Can anyone recommend a good sling bag for the k-01? Last edited by kkennally; 12-10-2012 at 04:52 PM.

12-10-2012, 04:50 PM	#2
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THoog Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: North Carolina Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 3,685	The K-01 doesn't fit into regular categories, and that turned off many non-Pentax users (who didn't see the value of the only mirrorless with a legacy mount), and many Pentax users (who didn't see the value of a K-mount without an EVF). With photographers' unfortunate tendency to blast anything that doesn't fit their personal requirements or expectations, you quickly have a hate-fest. It didn't help that Pentax priced it badly, marketed it badly (wait, Pentax markets things?), and released it with firmware 1.00 with its issues I bought my (first) K-01 in part to spite the haters, and because I thought it would be quiet for museum shooting. I quickly found that the non-dSLR shape and LCD-only focusing pushed me to shoot one-handed from angles that wouldn't occur to me with my eye glued to the viewfinder. While I'm not giving up my dSLRs, I really enjoy my brick. Last edited by THoog; 12-10-2012 at 08:01 PM.

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12-10-2012, 04:59 PM	#3
pxpaulx Veteran Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: Twin Cities, MN Posts: 2,867	Originally posted by Adam Apart from the AF, the location of the green button, and the door, it really is a great camera. And it's certainly the best value out there at the moment! definitely can't beat the value, easily a great backup camera, or for primary use too! If you are looking for a relatively small sling bag, check out what case logic has on amazon (I know, case logic....but they are actually pretty decent, and I've had my fair share of bags!)

12-10-2012, 05:11 PM	#4
Docrwm Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Somewhere in the Southern US Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 12,285	Congratulations on your 2 new K-01s.

12-10-2012, 05:48 PM	#5
clatrell Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Utica, NY Posts: 26	Originally posted by kkennally I recently bought two K-01 bodies from B&H (Black) and (yellow). My main camera has been the K-5 for the past year and when the price dropped on theK-01 I just had to get a couple. Now, as I read through threads and reviews on the internet I see allot of unfounded criticism of the K-01. Have any of these so called photo experts ever handled the Sony Nex-5n? I have.....And I can tell you that the K-01 is far superior in ergonomics, physical appearance and image quality! I have also owned the Olympus E-P2 which I really liked but the image quality was also lacking compared to the better APS-C sensors. I just don't get it. For anyone that is worried about the rubber door cover....Call 720-988-2653 and order a spare. That being said......Can anyone recommend a good sling bag for the k-01? I agree with you, and I think a lot of the hate is really because it just looks different, and people are afraid that they won't look sufficiently "serious" with the K-01. I personally find it a pleasure to use, coming from the K-X. But it's so much easier to just be derisive, isn't it?

12-10-2012, 06:02 PM	#6
Jacquot Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: May 2008 Location: Sun City Center, FL Photos: Gallery Posts: 2,544	Yep, there's a lot of K-01 hate around, I never understood it either, just enjoy the camera.

12-10-2012, 06:07 PM	#7
Blue Moderator Site Supporter Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Florida Hill Country Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 17,377	Haters gonna hate. Most of the comes from people that don't own one.

12-10-2012, 06:16 PM	#8
Rondec Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Gladys, Virginia Photos: Gallery Posts: 27,652	I think the issues that people are bothered by are the fact that there is no EVF and many people had hoped that Pentax would shorten the registration distance to allow for use of non-K mount lenses on it. At the initial price of 600-ish dollars, it was pretty hard to sell at 315, I can't seen any one taking issue with it.

12-10-2012, 06:21 PM	#9
Blue Moderator Site Supporter Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Florida Hill Country Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 17,377	Originally posted by Rondec I think the issues that people are bothered by are the fact that there is no EVF and many people had hoped that Pentax would shorten the registration distance to allow for use of non-K mount lenses on it. At the initial price of 600-ish dollars, it was pretty hard to sell at 315, I can't seen any one taking issue with it. Thing is, without the K-mount, I wouldn't have been interested in the least. One of the hard sell for me was spending money on the m4/3 stuff for lenses like the Oly 12 and 45 when I already have a set of Limited lenses etc. The m4/3 zooms suck and the primes just started accumulating on the scene the past 1.5 years with exception of the recent Sigma 19 and 30mm. I have a m4/3 K-mount adapter with aperture controls for the DA limiteds. With the K-01, the AF works.

12-10-2012, 06:30 PM	#10
LeRolls Pentaxian Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: PSL, FL Posts: 4,504	The K Mount support was one of the big reasons I went with the K-01 over other mirrorless cameras and I didn't even own any K Mount lenses. I just really liked knowing that there was a wealth of great options out there and available to me when it came to glass. If I had it to do all over again I'd have made the exact same choices. Absolutely love both of my Pentax mirrorless shooters! This coming from a guy who also has a very capable Canon T3i sitting in the other room mostly collection dust. Actually, it's great for quality video work but you get the idea.

12-10-2012, 06:46 PM	#11
kkennally Junior Member Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Portland, Maine Photos: Albums Posts: 26 Original Poster	Quote: I think the issues that people are bothered by are the fact that there is no EVF and many people had hoped that Pentax would shorten the registration distance to allow for use of non-K mount lenses on it. At the initial price of 600-ish dollars, it was pretty hard to sell at 315, I can't seen any one taking issue with it. Look at the EOS M Slower autofocus, no EVF but the professional reviewers are not getting on Canon about this design. What Digital Camera gives the Nex-5n a score of 90% and gives the K-01 69%??? I owned the Nex-5n for 3 days and sent it back due to the horrible ergonomics and clicking noise during video.

12-10-2012, 07:30 PM	#13
Medium FormatPro Banned Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Charleston & Pittsburgh Photos: Albums Posts: 1,668	Originally posted by THoog With photographers' unfortunate tendency to blast anything that doesn't fit their personal requirements or expectations, you quickly have a hate-fest. It didn't help that Pentax priced it badly, marketed it badly (wait, Pentax markets things?) Leica mirrorless; never marketed, costs 2k, well received by even people whom have been shooting Leica for many, many decades. Pentax's lack of marketing along with willingnessness to properly address fullframe will likely kill of the company.

12-10-2012, 07:53 PM	#14
THoog Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: North Carolina Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 3,685	Originally posted by Medium FormatPro Leica mirrorless; never marketed, costs 2k, well received by even people whom have been shooting Leica for many, many decades. Pentax's lack of marketing along with willingnessness to properly address fullframe will likely kill of the company. They've definitely been wrong-footed on an 'economy' FF model - they missed their chance to hit their usual note of "smaller and cheaper with better features" before the D600 and 6D hit the streets. I'm still hoping (perhaps foolishly) that Ricoh will make a difference. I don't know about other markets, but under Hoya, Pentax seemed determined to avoid selling in the US market as much as possible. It's hard to believe that I first learned about the K100D, in 2007 (just before the Hoya merger), by seeing an ad on the side of a subway train in Boston. Actual advertising! Did I dream it?

12-11-2012, 02:47 AM	#15
alamm001 New Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: South Florida Posts: 12	I got mine mainly for video. The idea of shooting HD video with my old pentax glass, at that price point, was hard to resist. For $350, I can get past all the faults for video (no hdmi monitoring, fixed LCD, compression,no vu meter,..). All except that it has no movie manual exposure mode with M series glass. If I had known it didnt offer manual exposure with older primes, I probably would have passed. Wish the documentation had been more clear on this. Not really sure if this makes me a hater or not. The camera is definitely fun to use otherwise and I'll definitely keep it (even if I do "hate" on it, a little ).