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08-30-2013, 05:25 PM - 1 Like   #1
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Stop LCD preview auto adjusting in Manual!

The K-7 does exactly what I expect in LV and what I am used to, why not the K-01?
What I mean is, when I have the camera on full manual setting, I clearly want to be in full control, right? This means I want the LCD live preview to adjust the preview brightness only as I change the shutter speed or aperture or sensitivity or Exp' compensation, IOW: A live preview - but it doesn't!?!?

For example, if I purposely set the metering to over expose by several stops, the (live) preview does not show me any changes. If I purposely set to under expose, again the preview does not show me a corresponding 'preview'...

Do the K-30/50/500 operate in the same way as the K-01 (and Q actually) - or are they doing it (correctly) like the K-7 does??

I've read the manual and gone through the menu settings hoping I missed something, just getting more frustrated.

Hopefully I have just gone blind from rage and have missed something

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I don't think there's a way to disable the auto adjusting. The K-30/50/500 all behave the same way.

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08-30-2013, 07:52 PM   #3
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That's not very encouraging news..
I assume though that the K-5 is like the K-7 in this regard?
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I so agree with sledger. Take the K-01 or Q and try to shoot a moon shot at night. Even on manual the system adjusts for the black sky, totally blowing the moon out. This makes it impossible to focus. Setting the correct exposure on manual doesn't help at all. The only work around I have found is go spot meter and try to keep the moving moon in the center. Not easy to do with big lens or telescope, unless you have a motorized clock drive.
Fix this Pentax!
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08-30-2013, 09:56 PM   #5
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I should think this 'fix' should be possible with a firmware update?

If the K30/50/500 are the same at the K-01 in this regard - then someone at Pentax/Ricoh must have made a global policy change to how they want their cameras crippled, er..... configured.

So yes, please FIX THIS NOW!
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My K7 work the same way too, so it does not matter if I set exposure to f/1.4 30s or f/32 1/8000s, the LCD still show the same brightness.
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I can see why Pentax have done this, the rear screen is primarily for focusing, so the camera adjusts to always offer you the best view. But it should be switchable in the menu. You can use the EV scale to adjust exposure, but you have to take an image to see the effects of your settings on the screen.

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But it should be switchable in the menu.
Exactly...

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I wonder if it has to do with having the ability to adjust the screen brightness in Menu? (and whether that might be a night shot workaround?)
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I am new in DSLR and am using my K5 since may, was trying out ND filters and had ,actually, quite a big problem and hassle with viewing. Then i saw how a friend of mine, on Canon 600d, was cheking the filters and difference what gives the shutter speed, without even taking a picture. Everything was shown on the screen. I think this definately is a big thing, which hopefully will be changed maybe with new FW update.
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QuoteOriginally posted by Mr_Radzins Quote
I am new in DSLR and am using my K5 since may, was trying out ND filters and had ,actually, quite a big problem and hassle with viewing. Then i saw how a friend of mine, on Canon 600d, was cheking the filters and difference what gives the shutter speed, without even taking a picture. Everything was shown on the screen. I think this definately is a big thing, which hopefully will be changed maybe with new FW update.
Turn on the Live View on your K5 and you'll see a much brighter image on the rear screen, if you use Aperture Priority both the Optical Viewfinder and the rear screen will show you the ISO, Aperture you have set and the Shutter Speed the camera needs to set with the density of the ND filters you are using. This scenario, is an example of the Pentax default of 'the best view possible' on the rear screen works well, any low light situation is another.

It may not show you what exposure the camera will take in Manual Mode, the point of this thread, but it at least gives you a view good enough to actually focus the camera!

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I guess if you're using it in full manual mode, you're supposed to know what you're doing without relying on the screen to judge exposure. The screen is for composing and focusing.
Of course it's better if their firmware could have options for the behavior, but it's still not an obstacle in shooting flow IMO.
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I guess if you're using it in full manual mode, you're supposed to know what you're doing without relying on the screen to judge exposure.
Sorry, but that's a negative comment, I don't need people trying to put down the validity of my question - I'm simply hoping I missed a setting and someone can help.
As mentioned, the K-7 does exactly what is expected as does the K-5. Both flagship (regarded as semi-pro) bodies.
Of course I know what I'm doing and I want the camera screen to confirm this with visual feedback. It's 21st century tech isn't it?
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If it is true that the K7 and K5 give a fairly accurate view on the LCD while the K-01, K30/50/500 do not - my guess is 1 of two

1. there was an intentional decision made to do this for the mid-range cameras
2. this is a property of the Prime-M imaging engine.

I can't say I am terribly upset that I can't easily focus a proper moonshot with my K-01 or in LV with a mid-range dSLR. Such is a fairly complex and demanding shot for any camera, much less a mid-range. And I did buy an LX on a whim that I never use, so . . . . .
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