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prime.partisan · 11-12-2013, 12:43 PM

Yup I read that blurb too John, but it sounds to me like an emotional assessment. It could be that the Jpeg engine in the K-01 is better, but I don't think that's the main reason he loves the cam so much. But whatever the case, I'm glad the K-01 get the recognition it derserves.

**monochrome** · 11-12-2013, 02:20 PM

Originally posted by johnmflores

"I had just gotten to the section of the folder that was filed with Pentax files. Even at ISO 3200 (and, under the right circumstances---a bit above...) the faces were free of noise but invested with detail. The files had a different look and feel than the files from the other two cameras. The images of one and two year olds just glowed! And I remember how freeing it felt not to totally control my camera when I was taking those particular shots."

- Kirk Tuck

Originally posted by prime.partisan

Yup I read that blurb too John, but it sounds to me like an emotional assessment. It could be that the Jpeg engine in the K-01 is better, but I don't think that's the main reason he loves the cam so much. But whatever the case, I'm glad the K-01 get the recognition it derserves.

Originally posted by prime.partisan

I think Mr. Tuck means it exactly the opposite - the looks is the strongest asset of the K-01 in his shooting of people and especially kids. Specs wise the K-01 got nothing on the GH3 or A99.

I guess I respect your opinion but I think he meant precisely what he wrote.

**Rondec** · 11-12-2013, 02:32 PM

Originally posted by prime.partisan

Yup I read that blurb too John, but it sounds to me like an emotional assessment. It could be that the Jpeg engine in the K-01 is better, but I don't think that's the main reason he loves the cam so much. But whatever the case, I'm glad the K-01 get the recognition it derserves.

He says in his article that he knows that maybe others feel it is kind of silly to judge a camera based on out of camera jpegs, but they turned out better than the other cameras. In addition, he had a lot of fun shooting it. What more could you ask for?

DogLover · 11-12-2013, 02:32 PM

Yeah, why is it so hard to believe that a blogger is genuinely impressed with the results he got from a Pentax camera? And why would you take it upon yourself to tell others what he "really meant?"

prime.partisan · 11-12-2013, 03:04 PM

Originally posted by DogLover

And why would you take it upon yourself to tell others what he "really meant?"

Because I've been using both K-01 and NEX-5R, and there's absolutely nothing special about the Pentax's RAW output. But it could be better in JPEG, which I never tried. Besides, he's been very emotional about the K-01, calling it better than a D800

Ripe Camera: I'm so angry at myself. It's all about a lack of foresight...

So there, the meanings of his words are sometimes not on the surface.

normhead · 11-12-2013, 03:11 PM

Originally posted by prime.partisan

Because I've been using both K-01 and NEX-5R, and there's absolutely nothing special about the Pentax's RAW output. But it could be better in JPEG, which I never tried. Besides, he's been very emotional about the K-01, calling it better than a D800

There is a forum member on this site, how has printed 13x17 inch prints, and came to the same conclusion. Maybe not better, different but equal. This is one of those issues where people who have actually done the comparisons say something different from what those who haven't say. I'm going with, the K-01 does as good as a D800 until someone does a test that shows me different. Someone has to prove how much better a D800 is in the field, and have the images to prove it, in something other than pixel peeping. And if you're really a serious photographer, the images should be all you care about.

DogLover · 11-12-2013, 03:11 PM

Originally posted by prime.partisan

Because I've been using both K-01 and NEX-5R, and there's absolutely nothing special about the Pentax's RAW output. But it could be better in JPEG, which I never tried. Besides, he's been very emotional about the K-01, calling it better than a D800

Ripe Camera: I'm so angry at myself. It's all about a lack of foresight...

So there, the meanings of his words are sometimes not on the surface.

There's nothing there to support your opinion. Just because you don't find anything special about a camera doesn't mean everyone must agree with you. You are not the final authority.

prime.partisan · 11-12-2013, 03:23 PM

Originally posted by normhead

I'm going with, the K-01 does as good as a D800 until someone does a test that shows me different.

If that works for you, then by all means. From what I see though, in the field or not, IQ of the D800 is in a different league.

prime.partisan · 11-12-2013, 03:28 PM

Originally posted by DogLover

Just because you don't find anything special about a camera doesn't mean everyone must agree with you. You are not the final authority.

I'm just pointing out that Mr. Tuck has treated the K-01 with emotional bias, which is fine by me as I love my K-01 the same way. Do I need to be the final authority to just talk around here?

normhead · 11-12-2013, 03:33 PM

Originally posted by prime.partisan

If that works for you, then by all means. From what I see though, in the field or not, IQ of the D800 is in a different league.

OK then, what are you seeing? Not your conclusion, your data.

DogLover · 11-12-2013, 03:43 PM

Originally posted by prime.partisan

I'm just pointing out that Mr. Tuck has treated the K-01 with emotional bias, which is fine by me as I love my K-01 the same way. Do I need to be the final authority to just talk around here?

Obviously not. Just don't assume that you know what others "really mean" when their words are quite clear. And he's described his enthusiasm for the camera as being much more than just emotional. Plain as day, he said that the K-01 files jumped out to him much more than the other two cameras. Hard to misconstrue that.

bobmaxja · 11-12-2013, 03:53 PM

I like this guy . But I don't know why again some peoples here are bringing D800 in this tread. I don't thinhk he use any Nikon product in his blog!!

prime.partisan · 11-12-2013, 03:57 PM

Originally posted by DogLover

Just don't assume that you know what others "really mean" when their words are quite clear. And he's described his enthusiasm for the camera as being much more than just emotional. Plain as day, he said that the K-01 files jumped out to him much more than the other two cameras. Hard to misconstrue that.

And how do you quantify "jumping out"? The whole article leaves lots of room for interpretation.
You have your way of perceiving it, and I have mine. Did I force anyone to agree with my version of interpretation, or insult anyone who disagrees? My original post says clearly *I think* he means a differently. Are you offended by what I think?

prime.partisan · 11-12-2013, 03:58 PM

Originally posted by bobmaxja

I like this guy . But I don't know why again some peoples here are bringing D800 in this tread. I don't thinhk he use any Nikon product in his blog!!

Well he said here on his blog post that K-01 is better than D800 or any other modern cam - Ripe Camera: I'm so angry at myself. It's all about a lack of foresight...

DogLover · 11-12-2013, 04:15 PM

Originally posted by prime.partisan

And how do you quantify "jumping out"?

Jumped out, stood out, were noticed because they looked different. None of that is remotely emotional.

Originally posted by prime.partisan

Are you offended by what I think?

Actually,yes, because you obviously think you know better what was intended than the rest of us. Pretty offensive.

11-12-2013, 02:20 PM	#17
monochrome Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Working From Home Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 26,276	Originally posted by johnmflores "I had just gotten to the section of the folder that was filed with Pentax files. Even at ISO 3200 (and, under the right circumstances---a bit above...) the faces were free of noise but invested with detail. The files had a different look and feel than the files from the other two cameras. The images of one and two year olds just glowed! And I remember how freeing it felt not to totally control my camera when I was taking those particular shots." - Kirk Tuck Originally posted by prime.partisan Yup I read that blurb too John, but it sounds to me like an emotional assessment. It could be that the Jpeg engine in the K-01 is better, but I don't think that's the main reason he loves the cam so much. But whatever the case, I'm glad the K-01 get the recognition it derserves. Originally posted by prime.partisan I think Mr. Tuck means it exactly the opposite - the looks is the strongest asset of the K-01 in his shooting of people and especially kids. Specs wise the K-01 got nothing on the GH3 or A99. I guess I respect your opinion but I think he meant precisely what he wrote. Last edited by monochrome; 11-12-2013 at 02:40 PM.

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11-12-2013, 12:43 PM	#16
prime.partisan Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2013 Posts: 198	Yup I read that blurb too John, but it sounds to me like an emotional assessment. It could be that the Jpeg engine in the K-01 is better, but I don't think that's the main reason he loves the cam so much. But whatever the case, I'm glad the K-01 get the recognition it derserves.

11-12-2013, 02:32 PM	#18
Rondec Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Gladys, Virginia Photos: Gallery Posts: 27,666	Originally posted by prime.partisan Yup I read that blurb too John, but it sounds to me like an emotional assessment. It could be that the Jpeg engine in the K-01 is better, but I don't think that's the main reason he loves the cam so much. But whatever the case, I'm glad the K-01 get the recognition it derserves. He says in his article that he knows that maybe others feel it is kind of silly to judge a camera based on out of camera jpegs, but they turned out better than the other cameras. In addition, he had a lot of fun shooting it. What more could you ask for?

11-12-2013, 02:32 PM	#19
DogLover Veteran Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Tennessee Posts: 2,054	Yeah, why is it so hard to believe that a blogger is genuinely impressed with the results he got from a Pentax camera? And why would you take it upon yourself to tell others what he "really meant?"

11-12-2013, 03:04 PM	#20
prime.partisan Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2013 Posts: 198	Originally posted by DogLover And why would you take it upon yourself to tell others what he "really meant?" Because I've been using both K-01 and NEX-5R, and there's absolutely nothing special about the Pentax's RAW output. But it could be better in JPEG, which I never tried. Besides, he's been very emotional about the K-01, calling it better than a D800 Ripe Camera: I'm so angry at myself. It's all about a lack of foresight... So there, the meanings of his words are sometimes not on the surface.

11-12-2013, 03:11 PM	#21
normhead Pentaxian Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Near Algonquin Park Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 40,451	Originally posted by prime.partisan Because I've been using both K-01 and NEX-5R, and there's absolutely nothing special about the Pentax's RAW output. But it could be better in JPEG, which I never tried. Besides, he's been very emotional about the K-01, calling it better than a D800 There is a forum member on this site, how has printed 13x17 inch prints, and came to the same conclusion. Maybe not better, different but equal. This is one of those issues where people who have actually done the comparisons say something different from what those who haven't say. I'm going with, the K-01 does as good as a D800 until someone does a test that shows me different. Someone has to prove how much better a D800 is in the field, and have the images to prove it, in something other than pixel peeping. And if you're really a serious photographer, the images should be all you care about.

11-12-2013, 03:11 PM	#22
DogLover Veteran Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Tennessee Posts: 2,054	Originally posted by prime.partisan Because I've been using both K-01 and NEX-5R, and there's absolutely nothing special about the Pentax's RAW output. But it could be better in JPEG, which I never tried. Besides, he's been very emotional about the K-01, calling it better than a D800 Ripe Camera: I'm so angry at myself. It's all about a lack of foresight... So there, the meanings of his words are sometimes not on the surface. There's nothing there to support your opinion. Just because you don't find anything special about a camera doesn't mean everyone must agree with you. You are not the final authority.

11-12-2013, 03:23 PM	#23
prime.partisan Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2013 Posts: 198	Originally posted by normhead I'm going with, the K-01 does as good as a D800 until someone does a test that shows me different. If that works for you, then by all means. From what I see though, in the field or not, IQ of the D800 is in a different league.

11-12-2013, 03:28 PM	#24
prime.partisan Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2013 Posts: 198	Originally posted by DogLover Just because you don't find anything special about a camera doesn't mean everyone must agree with you. You are not the final authority. I'm just pointing out that Mr. Tuck has treated the K-01 with emotional bias, which is fine by me as I love my K-01 the same way. Do I need to be the final authority to just talk around here?

11-12-2013, 03:33 PM	#25
normhead Pentaxian Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Near Algonquin Park Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 40,451	Originally posted by prime.partisan If that works for you, then by all means. From what I see though, in the field or not, IQ of the D800 is in a different league. OK then, what are you seeing? Not your conclusion, your data.

11-12-2013, 03:43 PM	#26
DogLover Veteran Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Tennessee Posts: 2,054	Originally posted by prime.partisan I'm just pointing out that Mr. Tuck has treated the K-01 with emotional bias, which is fine by me as I love my K-01 the same way. Do I need to be the final authority to just talk around here? Obviously not. Just don't assume that you know what others "really mean" when their words are quite clear. And he's described his enthusiasm for the camera as being much more than just emotional. Plain as day, he said that the K-01 files jumped out to him much more than the other two cameras. Hard to misconstrue that.

11-12-2013, 03:53 PM	#27
bobmaxja Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Laval, Quebec Canada Posts: 2,171	I like this guy . But I don't know why again some peoples here are bringing D800 in this tread. I don't thinhk he use any Nikon product in his blog!!

11-12-2013, 03:57 PM	#28
prime.partisan Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2013 Posts: 198	Originally posted by DogLover Just don't assume that you know what others "really mean" when their words are quite clear. And he's described his enthusiasm for the camera as being much more than just emotional. Plain as day, he said that the K-01 files jumped out to him much more than the other two cameras. Hard to misconstrue that. And how do you quantify "jumping out"? The whole article leaves lots of room for interpretation. You have your way of perceiving it, and I have mine. Did I force anyone to agree with my version of interpretation, or insult anyone who disagrees? My original post says clearly I think he means a differently. Are you offended by what I think?

11-12-2013, 03:58 PM	#29
prime.partisan Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2013 Posts: 198	Originally posted by bobmaxja I like this guy . But I don't know why again some peoples here are bringing D800 in this tread. I don't thinhk he use any Nikon product in his blog!! Well he said here on his blog post that K-01 is better than D800 or any other modern cam - Ripe Camera: I'm so angry at myself. It's all about a lack of foresight...

11-12-2013, 04:15 PM	#30
DogLover Veteran Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Tennessee Posts: 2,054	Originally posted by prime.partisan And how do you quantify "jumping out"? Jumped out, stood out, were noticed because they looked different. None of that is remotely emotional. Originally posted by prime.partisan Are you offended by what I think? Actually,yes, because you obviously think you know better what was intended than the rest of us. Pretty offensive.

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