Originally posted by mel I have 10-year old twins. Cleaning their room is ever an issue. What goes on here between a certain few members reminds me of what I hear from them again and again:
"I'm not cleaning unless he cleans!"
"Well I'M not cleaning unless HE cleans!!"
And on and on and around and around it goes. Endlessly. What you few do here in the P&R forum is akin to that very juvenile behavior. Each refuses to stop as long as each perceives the other as engaging in that same behavior. Excuse my vulgarity (I have boys, that's my excuse and I'm sticking to it) but you are all engaged in one big pissing contest, trying to outdo the other. It's all so very childish.
So here's the deal and it's what I tell my kids. Hows about we all just worry about our ownselves and our own behavior and take some responsibility for it. Do the right thing for the right reasons on your own end and maybe, just maybe, it might rub off on someone else and we can have civil and enlightening conversation about the issues that affect us all, regardless of our viewpoint.
K?
I posted a long reply to this earlier.....and perhaps I forgot to hit Submit? Being too lazy to repeat it all, as the father of two sons, and having four grandsons (all like Old Rupert) you have my deepest sympathy for your situation. I never did use corporal punishment, but as noted earlier, Mrs Rupert removed many layers of hiney flesh, and I never saw where it made much difference. As soon as they healed up, they were still the same boys they were before, just a little more cautious and a little more crafty. Still, unless she got out of line too far, I never stopped her and she takes credit to this day for their current success in life....and probably deserves it. No...she does deserve it!
The one time I was ordered to "let them have it" I closed the door and made them holler as I whipped the dickens out of a textbook with a leather belt. They never told on me...I made it clear that I could just as easily "turn rabid" if they did. Raising children is not easy......but you learn as you go along, do your best, and hope for some Good Luck.
Best of Luck to You!
Rupert