Let's either grow up or abandon this forum

Ratmagiclady · 07-28-2010, 02:49 PM

Originally posted by JeffJS

Pot > Kettle > Black

Really?

I mean, I described a certain amount of time, and how it progressed, here.

I realize of course that the moment I spoke up, the conservatives proclaimed me, 'Aha, a typical man-hating separatist lesbian all along,' while refusing to answer for a long time my simple question when they did this: 'What's my sexual orientation?'

They've been defending their slurs as reality ever since, even though it should have been obvious from my aforementioned mentioning of boyfriends (Or even asking that question repeatedly) that I am in fact bi.

It went on for *months,* them insisting I was that stereotype and thinking this or that, even after I actually *said* otherwise. Then saying, 'How you write makes no sense,' even when directly quoting simple declarative sentences that said the opposite of what I did.'

This is beyond "PC' or politeness, ...it's about even having any respect at all for what we're ostensibly doing here.

If it's communicating and not propaganda masquerading as debate,

Well.

Maybe it's not about 'sides.' Maybe it's about the words. Maybe it's about even paying *attention* to all this.

No high hopes at this point. But maybe.

And like I said, it's not just about me: If people want to bash at 'Illegal immigrants and anyone that might be one,' it's the same thing.

The reality of it is that that 'Gummint' some ostensibly hate but seek to control makes the lines between 'illegal' and 'legal' pretty damn arbitrary. It's not neccessarily the lives you think you know all about. Just cause they aren't here advertising doesn't mean you're right.

Last edited by Ratmagiclady; 07-28-2010 at 03:01 PM.

gokenin · 07-28-2010, 04:29 PM

Originally posted by Ratmagiclady

Really?

I realize of course that the moment I spoke up, the conservatives proclaimed me, 'Aha, a typical man-hating separatist lesbian all along,' while refusing to answer for a long time my simple question when they did this: 'What's my sexual orientation?'
.

I know its hard to believe but being a bigot is not an exclusive to being a conservative. I can't pretend to know what you have gone through in your life but I would like you to know that not conservatives hold this bigotry. This continued blanket painting for people is what has gotten us in this forum in trouble as well as in the country in general.

GeneV · 07-28-2010, 04:38 PM

Originally posted by gokenin

I know its hard to believe but being a bigot is not an exclusive to being a conservative. I can't pretend to know what you have gone through in your life but I would like you to know that not conservatives hold this bigotry. This continued blanket painting for people is what has gotten us in this forum in trouble as well as in the country in general.

On the point that bigotry is not limited to conservatives, I would agree 100%. I have walked out on some hard lefties after some assumptions were made about me just because I represent business interests in my practice.

JeffJS · 07-28-2010, 04:52 PM

Yes, Really. Many of your postings or diatribes, begin, end, or both, with you calling someone a Bigot or a Fundie or some other such thing because they don't agree with your way of thinking, as you put it in writing. Then it will invariably go to you're rant about how the world hates the LGBT community when in Fact, the only person here who Cares about your 'orientation', is you. You're other postings are spent mainly telling other people how They should Think or Live, down to Where they should live, how they should feel about their neighbors. All the while knowing absolutely NOTHING about them.

One of your former P&R Nemesis is apparently no longer allowed to post here. The joke of that is, you two are exactly alike in that respect.

I'll say it again.

Pot > Kettle > Black

If that gets me kicked out of here, so be it.

GeneV · 07-28-2010, 05:09 PM

Originally posted by JeffJS

Yes, Really. Many of your postings or diatribes, begin, end, or both, with you calling someone a Bigot or a Fundie or some other such thing because they don't agree with your way of thinking, as you put it in writing. Then it will invariably go to you're rant about how the world hates the LGBT community when in Fact, the only person here who Cares about your 'orientation', is you. You're other postings are spent mainly telling other people how They should Think or Live, down to Where they should live, how they should feel about their neighbors. All the while knowing absolutely NOTHING about them.

One of your former P&R Nemesis is apparently no longer allowed to post here. The joke of that is, you two are exactly alike in that respect.

I'll say it again.

Pot > Kettle > Black

If that gets me kicked out of here, so be it.

Why don't you try quoting. When I read this I was wondering what I did to set you off.

MRRiley · 07-28-2010, 05:11 PM

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07-28-2010, 05:11 PM	#36
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07-28-2010, 02:49 PM	#31
Ratmagiclady Veteran Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: GA Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 13,563	Originally posted by JeffJS Pot > Kettle > Black Really? I mean, I described a certain amount of time, and how it progressed, here. I realize of course that the moment I spoke up, the conservatives proclaimed me, 'Aha, a typical man-hating separatist lesbian all along,' while refusing to answer for a long time my simple question when they did this: 'What's my sexual orientation?' They've been defending their slurs as reality ever since, even though it should have been obvious from my aforementioned mentioning of boyfriends (Or even asking that question repeatedly) that I am in fact bi. It went on for months, them insisting I was that stereotype and thinking this or that, even after I actually said otherwise. Then saying, 'How you write makes no sense,' even when directly quoting simple declarative sentences that said the opposite of what I did.' This is beyond "PC' or politeness, ...it's about even having any respect at all for what we're ostensibly doing here. If it's communicating and not propaganda masquerading as debate, Well. Maybe it's not about 'sides.' Maybe it's about the words. Maybe it's about even paying attention to all this. No high hopes at this point. But maybe. And like I said, it's not just about me: If people want to bash at 'Illegal immigrants and anyone that might be one,' it's the same thing. The reality of it is that that 'Gummint' some ostensibly hate but seek to control makes the lines between 'illegal' and 'legal' pretty damn arbitrary. It's not neccessarily the lives you think you know all about. Just cause they aren't here advertising doesn't mean you're right. Last edited by Ratmagiclady; 07-28-2010 at 03:01 PM.

07-28-2010, 04:29 PM	#32
gokenin Veteran Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: lowell,ma Posts: 1,899	Originally posted by Ratmagiclady Really? I realize of course that the moment I spoke up, the conservatives proclaimed me, 'Aha, a typical man-hating separatist lesbian all along,' while refusing to answer for a long time my simple question when they did this: 'What's my sexual orientation?' . I know its hard to believe but being a bigot is not an exclusive to being a conservative. I can't pretend to know what you have gone through in your life but I would like you to know that not conservatives hold this bigotry. This continued blanket painting for people is what has gotten us in this forum in trouble as well as in the country in general.

07-28-2010, 04:38 PM	#33
GeneV Veteran Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Albuquerque NM Photos: Albums Posts: 9,830 Original Poster	Originally posted by gokenin I know its hard to believe but being a bigot is not an exclusive to being a conservative. I can't pretend to know what you have gone through in your life but I would like you to know that not conservatives hold this bigotry. This continued blanket painting for people is what has gotten us in this forum in trouble as well as in the country in general. On the point that bigotry is not limited to conservatives, I would agree 100%. I have walked out on some hard lefties after some assumptions were made about me just because I represent business interests in my practice.

07-28-2010, 04:52 PM	#34
JeffJS Inactive Account Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Michigan, USA Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 7,484	Yes, Really. Many of your postings or diatribes, begin, end, or both, with you calling someone a Bigot or a Fundie or some other such thing because they don't agree with your way of thinking, as you put it in writing. Then it will invariably go to you're rant about how the world hates the LGBT community when in Fact, the only person here who Cares about your 'orientation', is you. You're other postings are spent mainly telling other people how They should Think or Live, down to Where they should live, how they should feel about their neighbors. All the while knowing absolutely NOTHING about them. One of your former P&R Nemesis is apparently no longer allowed to post here. The joke of that is, you two are exactly alike in that respect. I'll say it again. Pot > Kettle > Black If that gets me kicked out of here, so be it.

07-28-2010, 05:09 PM	#35
GeneV Veteran Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Albuquerque NM Photos: Albums Posts: 9,830 Original Poster	Originally posted by JeffJS Yes, Really. Many of your postings or diatribes, begin, end, or both, with you calling someone a Bigot or a Fundie or some other such thing because they don't agree with your way of thinking, as you put it in writing. Then it will invariably go to you're rant about how the world hates the LGBT community when in Fact, the only person here who Cares about your 'orientation', is you. You're other postings are spent mainly telling other people how They should Think or Live, down to Where they should live, how they should feel about their neighbors. All the while knowing absolutely NOTHING about them. One of your former P&R Nemesis is apparently no longer allowed to post here. The joke of that is, you two are exactly alike in that respect. I'll say it again. Pot > Kettle > Black If that gets me kicked out of here, so be it. Why don't you try quoting. When I read this I was wondering what I did to set you off.