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Catalana · 11-02-2010, 10:59 PM

Hah, just bought a DA 15mm Limited and DA 17-70/F4 today, so I guess I am a little late to this game. Now back to regular programming and picture snapping...

JonPB · 11-02-2010, 11:30 PM

Originally posted by QFish

Listen people! The only way to help Pentax with improvement of they product is to stop buying they products. It is not a secret that there is no fair business. So, If there is no respect to what we discuss here and response to our little wishes for camera improvements STOP discussing! Who buys Pentax to shoot sports? Who needs 7fps? How many sport news photographers have you seen with Pentax K7? or will see with 7fps K5?
Why did they stop making 50mm f1.7? Is it opticaly inferior to f1.4 for $400?
Instead of improving products they just play games. where is remote assistant for K5? Why the top of the line camera is it designed for 100K clicks when mid range Nikon 7000 for 150k

Perhaps only for my own amusement, but:

Pentax does respect our discussions. Ned Bunnell has said that he appreciates the instant feedback from the likes of this forum. And the products that have been released very closely match many of the requests made around here. Consider the most recent announcements. Improved AF, focus point indicators, lower-cost prime lens, lower-cost WR lens... all things we've asked for.

Who buys Pentax to shoot sports? Well, sports Pentaxians, of course.

Who needs 7 FPS? Well, for that matter, who needs 2 FPS? Faster frame rates help bracketing, especially for the likes of HDR. I'd take 60 FPS, even if only for 3 frames, if they offered it.

How many sports news photographers have I seen with Pentax? Hm. None. How much sports news photography do I do? Hm. None.

Why did they stop making the 50/1.7? Well, 50mm is now moderate telephoto, which most people use only for portraiture. Portrait photographers can pony up for the 55/1.4, methinks, which is an excellent lens for that purpose. When 50mm was a general purpose lens, it made sense to offer multiple versions in that length. Now that 35mm is the "normal" length, it makes sense to offer multiple versions of that. And, guess what? They do! 31, 35 macro, 35, 40, not to mention a number of zooms...

By your reasoning, they're playing Sudoku all day because they release a camera that can pull off a respectable 51200 ISO, with dramatically improved autofocus, but which doesn't have tethering. Hm. Maybe I should play games more.

Why design a shutter for 100k clicks? How many photographers get to 50k clicks before selling their DSLRs nowadays? I'd rather see them develop the flash system than improve the shutter reliability, because by the time I hit 100k actuations I probably wouldn't mind terribly the excuse to buy the latest camera.

What else... let's see... oh, right. If Pentax didn't design a camera that meets your needs, then don't buy Pentax. Which is what photographers everywhere are doing--when Pentax is the best camera for the job, we buy; if not, we buy another brand. Which is what you're suggesting. Which is how the market works. No assembly required!

Thanks for that exercise. I like trolls who make refutable arguments. Its the trolls that make inane arguments, and repeat them over and over, which deserve being ignored. (I read some other forum earlier today. By the way, JohnBee, you have credibility in my book.)

Arpe · 11-03-2010, 02:14 AM

Is that Mr Hanky (?) I see?

Ira · 11-03-2010, 02:40 AM

That reminds me:

Isn't Mr. Hanky due for an appearance this season, especially with Christmas coming up?

**Ash** · 11-03-2010, 04:47 AM

No sign of the OP - looks like a post & run...

Could QF = RH reincarnate?

Wheatfield · 11-03-2010, 06:17 AM

Another day, another moron.

VaughnA · 11-03-2010, 06:31 AM

Hey look people. I just added the first name to my ignore list!

**dcmsox2004** · 11-03-2010, 07:31 AM

spotted qfish.......

dgaies · 11-03-2010, 08:07 AM

I for one will be joining QFish in his boycott.

Pentax, I will not be purchasing another K5 this month. And I probably won't buy another body for at least 12-18 months.

There, that ought to teach Pentax a lesson.

Parallax · 11-03-2010, 08:23 AM

I am shocked by all of the reactions here.
I can't believe a post titled "Listen People!", by a new member, with low post count, bashing Pentax, didn't earn him instant credibility and respect.

SpecialK · 11-03-2010, 08:42 AM

Quote:

I say we grab Pentax right be the balls and deny them their right to die!
What could be worst than keeping them alive against their own will?

Crotch-rot.

Someone please close this thread...

RioRico · 11-03-2010, 08:51 AM

Originally posted by SpecialK

Crotch-rot.

Someone please close this thread...

The BACKSPACE key is your friend.

In other words,
if you don't like the program,
change channels.

Ratmagiclady · 11-03-2010, 08:53 AM

Heheh. I guess now that the election's over there are a lot of unemployed attack-ad makers out there with nothing counterproductive to tell people to do.

RioRico · 11-03-2010, 03:44 PM

Originally posted by Ratmagiclady

Heheh. I guess now that the election's over there are a lot of unemployed attack-ad makers out there with nothing counterproductive to tell people to do.

The unemployed ones are pros who don't troll for free, only for money.

Such jobless pros can still make a living, stealing from orphans & widows.

The ones to watch out for are those who are just in it for the juicy lulz.

It's kinda like what conservative humorist (??) PJ O'Rourke said:

Liberals wreck the economy and environment out of misguided principles.
Conservatives wreck the economy and environment just for fun.

But I digress. How to keep PenHoya honchos happy? Upgrade the kit lens.

SpecialK · 11-03-2010, 04:16 PM

Since at least one person did not get it as humor, my "answer" above was in response to the question, prompted by a rather unsanitary image from the earlier sentence. It was not about JohnBee. Sorry if it came across that way.

And I suggested the thread be closed as I believe the OP is now sufficiently bashed as to make further posts unnecessary. Again, it is not about JohnBee.

Maybe I needed a smiley. Here's one.

:-)

11-03-2010, 07:31 AM	#23
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11-02-2010, 10:59 PM	#16
Catalana Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: California Posts: 190	Hah, just bought a DA 15mm Limited and DA 17-70/F4 today, so I guess I am a little late to this game. Now back to regular programming and picture snapping...

11-02-2010, 11:30 PM	#17
JonPB Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Portland, OR, USA Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 430	Originally posted by QFish Listen people! The only way to help Pentax with improvement of they product is to stop buying they products. It is not a secret that there is no fair business. So, If there is no respect to what we discuss here and response to our little wishes for camera improvements STOP discussing! Who buys Pentax to shoot sports? Who needs 7fps? How many sport news photographers have you seen with Pentax K7? or will see with 7fps K5? Why did they stop making 50mm f1.7? Is it opticaly inferior to f1.4 for $400? Instead of improving products they just play games. where is remote assistant for K5? Why the top of the line camera is it designed for 100K clicks when mid range Nikon 7000 for 150k Perhaps only for my own amusement, but: Pentax does respect our discussions. Ned Bunnell has said that he appreciates the instant feedback from the likes of this forum. And the products that have been released very closely match many of the requests made around here. Consider the most recent announcements. Improved AF, focus point indicators, lower-cost prime lens, lower-cost WR lens... all things we've asked for. Who buys Pentax to shoot sports? Well, sports Pentaxians, of course. Who needs 7 FPS? Well, for that matter, who needs 2 FPS? Faster frame rates help bracketing, especially for the likes of HDR. I'd take 60 FPS, even if only for 3 frames, if they offered it. How many sports news photographers have I seen with Pentax? Hm. None. How much sports news photography do I do? Hm. None. Why did they stop making the 50/1.7? Well, 50mm is now moderate telephoto, which most people use only for portraiture. Portrait photographers can pony up for the 55/1.4, methinks, which is an excellent lens for that purpose. When 50mm was a general purpose lens, it made sense to offer multiple versions in that length. Now that 35mm is the "normal" length, it makes sense to offer multiple versions of that. And, guess what? They do! 31, 35 macro, 35, 40, not to mention a number of zooms... By your reasoning, they're playing Sudoku all day because they release a camera that can pull off a respectable 51200 ISO, with dramatically improved autofocus, but which doesn't have tethering. Hm. Maybe I should play games more. Why design a shutter for 100k clicks? How many photographers get to 50k clicks before selling their DSLRs nowadays? I'd rather see them develop the flash system than improve the shutter reliability, because by the time I hit 100k actuations I probably wouldn't mind terribly the excuse to buy the latest camera. What else... let's see... oh, right. If Pentax didn't design a camera that meets your needs, then don't buy Pentax. Which is what photographers everywhere are doing--when Pentax is the best camera for the job, we buy; if not, we buy another brand. Which is what you're suggesting. Which is how the market works. No assembly required! Thanks for that exercise. I like trolls who make refutable arguments. Its the trolls that make inane arguments, and repeat them over and over, which deserve being ignored. (I read some other forum earlier today. By the way, JohnBee, you have credibility in my book.)

11-03-2010, 02:14 AM	#18
Arpe Pentaxian Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: New Zealand Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 4,452	Is that Mr Hanky (?) I see?

11-03-2010, 02:40 AM	#19
Ira Inactive Account Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Coral Springs, FL Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 5,216	That reminds me: Isn't Mr. Hanky due for an appearance this season, especially with Christmas coming up?

11-03-2010, 04:47 AM	#20
Ash Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Toowoomba, Queensland Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 23,920	No sign of the OP - looks like a post & run... Could QF = RH reincarnate?

11-03-2010, 06:17 AM	#21
Wheatfield Moderator Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: The wheatfields of Canada Posts: 15,987	Another day, another moron.

11-03-2010, 06:31 AM	#22
VaughnA Banned Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Virginia Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 1,363	Hey look people. I just added the first name to my ignore list!

11-03-2010, 08:07 AM	#24
dgaies Veteran Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Maryland / Washington DC Posts: 3,917	I for one will be joining QFish in his boycott. Pentax, I will not be purchasing another K5 this month. And I probably won't buy another body for at least 12-18 months. There, that ought to teach Pentax a lesson.

11-03-2010, 08:23 AM	#25
Parallax Senior Moderator Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: South Dakota Photos: Gallery Posts: 19,333	I am shocked by all of the reactions here. I can't believe a post titled "Listen People!", by a new member, with low post count, bashing Pentax, didn't earn him instant credibility and respect.

11-03-2010, 08:42 AM	#26
SpecialK Pentaxian Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: So California Photos: Gallery Posts: 16,482	Quote: I say we grab Pentax right be the balls and deny them their right to die! What could be worst than keeping them alive against their own will? Crotch-rot. Someone please close this thread...

11-03-2010, 08:51 AM	#27
RioRico Veteran Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Limbo, California Posts: 11,263	Originally posted by SpecialK Crotch-rot. Someone please close this thread... The BACKSPACE key is your friend. In other words, if you don't like the program, change channels.

11-03-2010, 08:53 AM	#28
Ratmagiclady Veteran Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: GA Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 13,563	Heheh. I guess now that the election's over there are a lot of unemployed attack-ad makers out there with nothing counterproductive to tell people to do.

11-03-2010, 03:44 PM	#29
RioRico Veteran Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Limbo, California Posts: 11,263	Originally posted by Ratmagiclady Heheh. I guess now that the election's over there are a lot of unemployed attack-ad makers out there with nothing counterproductive to tell people to do. The unemployed ones are pros who don't troll for free, only for money. Such jobless pros can still make a living, stealing from orphans & widows. The ones to watch out for are those who are just in it for the juicy lulz. It's kinda like what conservative humorist (??) PJ O'Rourke said: Liberals wreck the economy and environment out of misguided principles. Conservatives wreck the economy and environment just for fun. But I digress. How to keep PenHoya honchos happy? Upgrade the kit lens.

11-03-2010, 04:16 PM	#30
SpecialK Pentaxian Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: So California Photos: Gallery Posts: 16,482	Since at least one person did not get it as humor, my "answer" above was in response to the question, prompted by a rather unsanitary image from the earlier sentence. It was not about JohnBee. Sorry if it came across that way. And I suggested the thread be closed as I believe the OP is now sufficiently bashed as to make further posts unnecessary. Again, it is not about JohnBee. Maybe I needed a smiley. Here's one. :-)