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11-04-2010, 10:04 PM   #1
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The Economist analyzes Republicans' plans to roll back Obama's health plan: Oops!!

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THE New York Times lists a series of measures Republicans and associated groups say they will take to roll back or repeal Obamacare. Every single one of the proposed measures either increases the cost of health care and the size of the federal deficit, or has no effect on them. In order:

- Repealing the "1099 rule", which would require businesses to file 1099s for anyone to whom they paid $600 or more. Repeal of the rule is probably a good idea and is supported by Barack Obama and many Democrats, but it would increase the cumulative deficit by $17 billion over the next ten years.

- Eliminating the provision requiring employers to contribute to the cost of insurance coverage. This will have no effect on the cost of health care, but will force employees to pay more for their health insurance. If the government then has to replace employers' contributions with more subsidies to make sure workers can afford to buy the insurance they're required to have, that would mean more government spending, which would increase the deficit.

- Eliminating the tax on high-cost employer-sponsored health plans. This would raise the cost of health care and insurance, and deprive the government of tens of billions of dollars per year in revenue, raising the deficit.

- Reducing or repealing a tax on manufacturers of medical devices. This would raise the deficit.

- Allowing states more freedom to define what sorts of insurance plans will be acceptable on their exchanges. This threatens to create a race to the bottom in standards for health insurance, but probably has no significant effect on the cost of health care or on the deficit.

- Reversing cuts to Medicare. The law envisioned cutting $500 billion out of Medicare over ten years. Whatever spending Republicans put back into Medicare adds to the deficit. Notably, the law envisioned cutting funding for Medicare Advantage's private-sector plans, because they're much more expensive than public-sector ones. Republicans want to continue giving taxpayer subsidies to private insurance companies.

- Eliminating the mandate that requires people to buy insurance, while keeping the law's provision that insurance companies can't refuse to cover people with pre-existing conditions. This is impossible. It would drive the entire private health-insurance industry out of business. Therefore, Republicans will not actually attempt to do this, whatever they're currently saying. The question is whether they can figure out some way to force Democrats to vote to keep the mandate, allowing Republicans to evade responsibility for having failed to repeal it. Based on Democrats' tactical astuteness over the past year, I would not put it past them to wind up kneeling in their own end zone on this sort of issue.

The article doesn't mention the fact that Republicans are already trying to eliminate the most significant cost control on Medicare spending included in Obamacare: the Independent Payment Advisory Board, an expert panel which would have the power to reduce Medicare payments without congressional approval. Eliminating the IPAB would cost $15.5 billion in this decade, according to the CBO, but more importantly, it would scrap the most promising existing mechanism for bending down the cost curve on Medicare, which is the make-or-break fiscal problem facing America over the next 25 years. For months, the GOP has been complaining that Obamacare is a budget-buster, and then stripping out the cost controls that pay for it.

This isn't surprising. Cutting spending, especially Medicare spending, is unpopular. Still, the speed here is pretty striking. Voters elected Republicans with a mandate to shrink the budget deficit on Tuesday. These are their proposals.
Health-reform repeal: Republican priorities on Obamacare | The Economist

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Ugh ... a buncha lies. A majority of the american people actually favor the health care overall...
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Health care overhaul is a broad term........
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QuoteOriginally posted by deadwolfbones Quote
Based on Democrats' tactical astuteness over the past year, I would not put it past them to wind up kneeling in their own end zone on this sort of issue.
I LOL'd at this

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I LOL'd at this
Unfortunately, it's too true. :|
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I wonder how Congressmen would vote on this issue if they didn't have a health insurance plan? How many of these new members would have even run for office if the job didn't have health benefits? Being a taxpayer, I'm disgusted by these leeches.
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Just to illustrate how everyone has their self interest in mind
Voters De-Elect Democrats but Are Wary of GOP Agenda - TheFiscalTimes.com

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R. Bruce Josten, executive vice president of the U.S. Chamber of Commerce, chuckled when he was asked in an interview about the public’s professed desire to see Washington roll back government spending. “There are no concrete signs that voters are willing or able to support the tough steps to tackle the budget deficits,” he said. Indeed, he pointed to a series of polls in recent months in which the public was all over the map over how to reduce the size of government.
In other words, the Chamber's best interest lays with keeping things unsettled and in a flux - for as soon as there's bipartisanship and resolution, their fund raising dries up.

So yea, I think we have a third party in the room....

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""I wonder how Congressmen would vote on this issue if they didn't have a health insurance plan? How many of these new members would have even run for office if the job didn't have health benefits? Being a taxpayer, I'm disgusted by these leeches.""

Reef has it!
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QuoteOriginally posted by reeftool Quote
I wonder how Congressmen would vote on this issue if they didn't have a health insurance plan? How many of these new members would have even run for office if the job didn't have health benefits? Being a taxpayer, I'm disgusted by these leeches.
I wonder how many tax payer dollars we could save by canceling health insurance for members of congress.
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Yeah, ...it's one thing to stage a 'revolt' ...Another thing to deal with the actual facts and situation that was ignored all along. Somehow I suspect the Teabaggers aren't ready for *that* part. But I'm sure they'll have their rhetoric.

Actually governing means more than putting a bumper sticker on things and saying, 'Hey, it's short!'
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I wonder how many tax payer dollars we could save by canceling health insurance for members of congress.
Not as many as we could save if we just canceled Congress.
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Not as many as we could save if we just canceled Congress.
Ah, the true conservative agenda is revealed.
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Ah, the true conservative agenda is revealed.
Yes well, congress is the opposite of progress.
The root word of congress is "con".
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