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jeffkrol · 11-09-2010, 01:36 PM

Very odd..........
Mystery 'missile' launch near L.A. no threat to national security, government officials say [Updated] | L.A. NOW | Los Angeles Times
[YT]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oyEvk-VTuEI&feature=player_embedded[/YT]

MRRiley · 11-09-2010, 01:49 PM

They would say that wouldn't they? Not likely they'd admit it was something to worry about...

subeeds · 11-09-2010, 02:20 PM

Don't need to worry about that just like we didn't need to worry about the fact the AF lost contact with the nuclear arsenal last weekend. LOL!

Nesster · 11-09-2010, 02:46 PM

Obviously those military-industrial complex queens have grown dependent on the government teat. We need to give them a dose of private enterprise & welfare cut to shake them out of complacency and take responsibility. I say cut the Pentagon budget and make these people work for a living, for a change. And install some competency testing: where did you put the nuke? And what exactly does THIS button do?

mikemike · 11-09-2010, 03:11 PM

Has anyone checked with Something Awful to see if the Copenhagen Suborbitals had anything to do with this?

Gooshin · 11-09-2010, 04:00 PM

The Russians are coming, ive been a spy all along.

jeffkrol · 11-09-2010, 05:09 PM

billion dollar military and they were clueless??? WHAT are we paying for

Quote:

Pike said he didn't understand why the military had not recognized the contrail of an aircraft. "The Air Force must ... understand how contrails are formed," he said. "Why they can't get some major out to belabor the obvious, I don't know.

Read more: Pentagon can't explain 'missile' off California

Parallax · 11-09-2010, 06:17 PM

Originally posted by jeffkrol

billion dollar military and they were clueless??? WHAT are we paying for

Read more: Pentagon can't explain 'missile' off California

What do you mean "what are we paying for?" We have the best politicians money can buy.
I wouldn't bet a nickel that the the military doesn't know who launched that missile.

Wheatfield · 11-09-2010, 07:04 PM

Consider the possibility that this is a political missile launch by your military, but not to show Asia what you can do, but to scare the crap out of the American people as an attempt to consolidate even more power through fear.

Parallax · 11-09-2010, 07:14 PM

Originally posted by Wheatfield

Consider the possibility that this is a political missile launch by your military, but not to show Asia what you can do, but to scare the crap out of the American people as an attempt to consolidate even more power through fear.

This has been one crappy day for me. I have agreed with two or three of deadwolfbones' posts, and now one of yours!

Seriously, I can't discount that possibility. I've never thought of myself as a member of the aluminum foil beanie Brigade, but I'm not quite sure what to believe anymore.

Wheatfield · 11-09-2010, 10:53 PM

Sorry Jim.

Phil1 · 11-10-2010, 06:01 AM

The contrail seemed to have a bright light at the base and the tracectory seemed to be correct for a rising missle if the film was really from this incident. The area, 35 miles north approximatly of Catalina and offshore would be roughly around Santa Barbara Island, a domed mountain top with one Nat Park ranger living on it usually. It is not a closed area to fishermen. Nearby is Santa Cruz Island and the Navy has facilities there and is associated with Pt Mugu. Years ago they did the tube launch testing for the Polaris missle there in a bight on the outside of the island. The area was periodically open and closed during testing as it was close inshore. Santa Cruz Island is a popular fisherman and sailors destination.

A storm front just passed through so the atmosphere was unusually crisp and clear especialy with the sun setting in the west. I have seen a good number of missle launches from Vandenerg while in a boat at Santa Criz Is. as well as from my house. The two stage separation at sunset is unvelievable with the venting of the spent 1st stage making gigantic ice rings rapidly in the vacumn of space.

The area is also well known for long lasting spectacular jet contrails at sunset from north-south bound aircraft. Many mistake these for missle shots.

Some years ago I recovered for the Navy a red small jet powered target drone about 10 miles outside of Santa Cruz and Anacapa Island and snagged a $500 reward for the recovery. We were Mako fishing in the area.

I did not see this deal but I would guess it was a real sub launch if the press stuff is real. The solid rocket sub ICBMs don't do 2nd stages shortly after launch.

USSR spy ships used to park in the San Nicolas Is. area frequently years ago.

mikemike · 11-10-2010, 07:19 AM

Someone asked George W Bush about it.

His response: Buy my book to find out.

JohnInIndy · 11-10-2010, 08:40 AM

It was China showing how close they really are.

reeftool · 11-10-2010, 09:09 AM

The really scary part of this is what if the military is telling the truth and they truly don't know?

11-09-2010, 01:36 PM	#1
jeffkrol Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Wisconsin USA Photos: Gallery Posts: 8,434	missile, missile, who launched the missile Very odd.......... Mystery 'missile' launch near L.A. no threat to national security, government officials say [Updated] \| L.A. NOW \| Los Angeles Times [YT]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oyEvk-VTuEI&feature=player_embedded[/YT]

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11-09-2010, 01:49 PM	#2
MRRiley Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Sterling, VA, USA Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 6,275	They would say that wouldn't they? Not likely they'd admit it was something to worry about...

11-09-2010, 02:20 PM	#3
subeeds Veteran Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Camden County, Ga. Photos: Gallery Posts: 333	Don't need to worry about that just like we didn't need to worry about the fact the AF lost contact with the nuclear arsenal last weekend. LOL!

11-09-2010, 02:46 PM	#4
Nesster Veteran Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: NJ USA Photos: Gallery Posts: 13,072	Obviously those military-industrial complex queens have grown dependent on the government teat. We need to give them a dose of private enterprise & welfare cut to shake them out of complacency and take responsibility. I say cut the Pentagon budget and make these people work for a living, for a change. And install some competency testing: where did you put the nuke? And what exactly does THIS button do?

11-09-2010, 03:11 PM	#5
mikemike Inactive Account Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: New Orleans Photos: Gallery Posts: 3,053	Has anyone checked with Something Awful to see if the Copenhagen Suborbitals had anything to do with this?

11-09-2010, 04:00 PM	#6
Gooshin Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Toronto, the one in Canada. Posts: 5,610	The Russians are coming, ive been a spy all along.

11-09-2010, 05:09 PM	#7
jeffkrol Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Wisconsin USA Photos: Gallery Posts: 8,434 Original Poster	billion dollar military and they were clueless??? WHAT are we paying for Quote: Pike said he didn't understand why the military had not recognized the contrail of an aircraft. "The Air Force must ... understand how contrails are formed," he said. "Why they can't get some major out to belabor the obvious, I don't know. Read more: Pentagon can't explain 'missile' off California

11-09-2010, 06:17 PM	#8
Parallax Senior Moderator Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: South Dakota Photos: Gallery Posts: 19,333	Originally posted by jeffkrol billion dollar military and they were clueless??? WHAT are we paying for Read more: Pentagon can't explain 'missile' off California What do you mean "what are we paying for?" We have the best politicians money can buy. I wouldn't bet a nickel that the the military doesn't know who launched that missile.

11-09-2010, 07:04 PM	#9
Wheatfield Moderator Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: The wheatfields of Canada Posts: 15,991	Consider the possibility that this is a political missile launch by your military, but not to show Asia what you can do, but to scare the crap out of the American people as an attempt to consolidate even more power through fear.

11-09-2010, 07:14 PM	#10
Parallax Senior Moderator Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: South Dakota Photos: Gallery Posts: 19,333	Originally posted by Wheatfield Consider the possibility that this is a political missile launch by your military, but not to show Asia what you can do, but to scare the crap out of the American people as an attempt to consolidate even more power through fear. This has been one crappy day for me. I have agreed with two or three of deadwolfbones' posts, and now one of yours! Seriously, I can't discount that possibility. I've never thought of myself as a member of the aluminum foil beanie Brigade, but I'm not quite sure what to believe anymore.

11-09-2010, 10:53 PM	#11
Wheatfield Moderator Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: The wheatfields of Canada Posts: 15,991	Sorry Jim.

11-10-2010, 06:01 AM	#12
Phil1 Inactive Account Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: SoCal Posts: 1,292	The contrail seemed to have a bright light at the base and the tracectory seemed to be correct for a rising missle if the film was really from this incident. The area, 35 miles north approximatly of Catalina and offshore would be roughly around Santa Barbara Island, a domed mountain top with one Nat Park ranger living on it usually. It is not a closed area to fishermen. Nearby is Santa Cruz Island and the Navy has facilities there and is associated with Pt Mugu. Years ago they did the tube launch testing for the Polaris missle there in a bight on the outside of the island. The area was periodically open and closed during testing as it was close inshore. Santa Cruz Island is a popular fisherman and sailors destination. A storm front just passed through so the atmosphere was unusually crisp and clear especialy with the sun setting in the west. I have seen a good number of missle launches from Vandenerg while in a boat at Santa Criz Is. as well as from my house. The two stage separation at sunset is unvelievable with the venting of the spent 1st stage making gigantic ice rings rapidly in the vacumn of space. The area is also well known for long lasting spectacular jet contrails at sunset from north-south bound aircraft. Many mistake these for missle shots. Some years ago I recovered for the Navy a red small jet powered target drone about 10 miles outside of Santa Cruz and Anacapa Island and snagged a $500 reward for the recovery. We were Mako fishing in the area. I did not see this deal but I would guess it was a real sub launch if the press stuff is real. The solid rocket sub ICBMs don't do 2nd stages shortly after launch. USSR spy ships used to park in the San Nicolas Is. area frequently years ago.

11-10-2010, 07:19 AM	#13
mikemike Inactive Account Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: New Orleans Photos: Gallery Posts: 3,053	Someone asked George W Bush about it. His response: Buy my book to find out.

11-10-2010, 08:40 AM	#14
JohnInIndy Veteran Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Posts: 794	It was China showing how close they really are.

11-10-2010, 09:09 AM	#15
reeftool Pentaxian Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Upstate New York Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 9,555	The really scary part of this is what if the military is telling the truth and they truly don't know?

missile, missile, who launched the missile

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