7/10 richest counties in America are in DC area

jogiba · 11-17-2010, 07:14 AM

Originally posted by Parallax

In case you're wondering (or wandering for that matter) here are the 10 best:

10 best states for retirement:

1. New Hampshire. It's a safe and cheap place to live. Its cost of living is 89% of the national average and the average state and local tax burden is 7.6%, putting it among the lowest in the U.S. in both categories. The state ranks 48th in the nation in violent crime and in property crime. The only criteria it didn't score well in was climate.
2. Hawaii. Best climate and highest life expectancy, at 80 years, although the temperature probably isn't too far off that number. Hawaii has the highest cost of living in the country.
3. South Dakota. Low cost of living and tax burden.
4. North Dakota. Low temperatures and crime somehow lead to a high life expectancy.
5. Iowa. Low cost of living.
6. Virginia: Mild temperatures and low crime.
7. Utah. Low violent crime rate and high life expectancy.
8. Connecticut. Low crime and close to major metro areas Boston and New York.
9. Vermont. Low crime and high life expectancy.
10. Idaho. Low crime and cost of living.

Best, worst states to retire

Ask ten people and you will get ten different lists. In all my years I have yet to hear anyone say they want to retire in North or South Dakota. They must use a dart board to come up with that list.

Parallax · 11-17-2010, 07:15 AM

Originally posted by Ira

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As long as there are early bird specials and New York Jews, Florida will continue to be their preferred destination.

And heat and lightning are non-issues too, because they only leave the house for those early bird specials.

Ira, I just have to ask a question, and I really hope the answer is no. You don't wear casual slacks, 2 sizes too big, with a white belt and pulled up to just below your armpits, do you?

GeneV · 11-17-2010, 07:45 AM

Originally posted by jogiba

Ask ten people and you will get ten different lists. In all my years I have yet to hear anyone say they want to retire in North or South Dakota. They must use a dart board to come up with that list.

I'd retire to South Dakota before Iowa. There is some breathtaking scenery in South Dakota. Not only is it beautiful, if you want to gamble away your retirement, there is always Deadwood.

I agree about the dart board. Another factor that does not seem to be considered is that a retirement area needs to have enough urban nature to provide transportation and entertainment that appeal to older, less mobile persons. Half the activities that make New Mexico attractive to me may not work for me if I am fortunate enough to live past 85 (very common in Fl). Transportation from other states needs to be easy or the kids will never visit. Medical and long term care facilities should be plentiful and well developed. None of these things seem to factor into that article to the extent they factor into the decision by most elderly retirees.

Parallax · 11-17-2010, 10:36 AM

Originally posted by jogiba

.............. In all my years I have yet to hear anyone say they want to retire in North or South Dakota. ..........

Yet, strangely, we have an awful lot of retired people here.

GeneV · 11-17-2010, 10:38 AM

Originally posted by Parallax

Yet, strangely, we have an awful lot of retired people here.

Jim, you don't have an awful ot of people there--retired or not.

Parallax · 11-17-2010, 10:46 AM

We have almost as many in the state as you have in Albuquerque.

City of Albuquerque: 869,684 as of June 2010, according to the U.S. Census Bureau.

State of South Dakota: 812,383 as of June 2009, according to the U.S. Census Bureau.

GeneV · 11-17-2010, 11:53 AM

Originally posted by Parallax

We have almost as many in the state as you have in Albuquerque.

City of Albuquerque: 869,684 as of June 2010, according to the U.S. Census Bureau.

State of South Dakota: 812,383 as of June 2009, according to the U.S. Census Bureau.

We don't have an awful lot of people in New Mexico, either.

Parallax · 11-17-2010, 12:29 PM

Originally posted by GeneV

We don't have an awful lot of people in New Mexico, either.

Maybe not, but NM is in my top 3 places that I want to retire.

GeneV · 11-17-2010, 12:32 PM

Originally posted by Parallax

Maybe not, but NM is in my top 3 places that I want to retire.

You are more than welcome here. Just watch out on the bike trails.

cardinal43 · 11-18-2010, 09:09 AM

Originally posted by Parallax

We have almost as many in the state as you have in Albuquerque.

City of Albuquerque: 869,684 as of June 2010, according to the U.S. Census Bureau.

State of South Dakota: 812,383 as of June 2009, according to the U.S. Census Bureau.

Excuse my ignorance, but since Pierre has only 13K people, where are the most populous areas of SD? I have never been in either of the Dakotas, but that will change next spring (I hope) as my wife and I plan to drive from VA to WA to see our grandson.

Parallax · 11-18-2010, 10:03 AM

Originally posted by cardinal43

Excuse my ignorance, but since Pierre has only 13K people, where are the most populous areas of SD? I have never been in either of the Dakotas, but that will change next spring (I hope) as my wife and I plan to drive from VA to WA to see our grandson.

Sioux Falls, in the SW part of the state is the most populous. Rapid City, on the western end is next by "city" population, but I think factoring in the surrounding area it may have a greater population than Sioux Falls and its surrounding area. Aberdeen in the North East is third. (Technically, Ellsworth AFB, near Rapid City is third and Aberdeen is 4th). I don't have exact figures, but those 4 account for probably 80+% of the state's population.

GeneV · 11-18-2010, 03:36 PM

Originally posted by Parallax

Sioux Falls, in the SW part of the state is the most populous. Rapid City, on the western end is next by "city" population, but I think factoring in the surrounding area it may have a greater population than Sioux Falls and its surrounding area. Aberdeen in the North East is third. (Technically, Ellsworth AFB, near Rapid City is third and Aberdeen is 4th). I don't have exact figures, but those 4 account for probably 80+% of the state's population.

My old girlfriend was from the Rapid City so I used to spend some time up there. Rapid seemed like the most populous area to me. Hot Springs was my favorite place to stay--great B&B on top of the bluff, but that was almost 20 years ago.

Parallax · 11-18-2010, 04:02 PM

Since you have been in this area (anything within 500 miles qualifies as "in the area" around here.) My guess is that you are the only one on the forum that knows how Pierre is pronounced in South Dakota.

GeneV · 11-18-2010, 04:25 PM

Originally posted by Parallax

Since you have been in this area (anything within 500 miles qualifies as "in the area" around here.) My guess is that you are the only one on the forum that knows how Pierre is pronounced in South Dakota.

Actually, I got that from a peer from Pierre with whom I used to practice law.

MRRiley · 11-18-2010, 04:36 PM

Hey... I've been BY Pierre on the interstate... and my avatar is a self portrait from the badlands when we were out for Sturgis Bike Week and Boozefest...

sooooo how DO you promnounce Pierre?

11-17-2010, 12:32 PM	#39
GeneV Veteran Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Albuquerque NM Photos: Albums Posts: 9,830	Originally posted by Parallax Maybe not, but NM is in my top 3 places that I want to retire. You are more than welcome here. Just watch out on the bike trails. Last edited by GeneV; 11-17-2010 at 12:54 PM.

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11-17-2010, 07:14 AM	#31
jogiba Banned Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Millstone,NJ Posts: 6,491	Originally posted by Parallax In case you're wondering (or wandering for that matter) here are the 10 best: 10 best states for retirement: 1. New Hampshire. It's a safe and cheap place to live. Its cost of living is 89% of the national average and the average state and local tax burden is 7.6%, putting it among the lowest in the U.S. in both categories. The state ranks 48th in the nation in violent crime and in property crime. The only criteria it didn't score well in was climate. 2. Hawaii. Best climate and highest life expectancy, at 80 years, although the temperature probably isn't too far off that number. Hawaii has the highest cost of living in the country. 3. South Dakota. Low cost of living and tax burden. 4. North Dakota. Low temperatures and crime somehow lead to a high life expectancy. 5. Iowa. Low cost of living. 6. Virginia: Mild temperatures and low crime. 7. Utah. Low violent crime rate and high life expectancy. 8. Connecticut. Low crime and close to major metro areas Boston and New York. 9. Vermont. Low crime and high life expectancy. 10. Idaho. Low crime and cost of living. Best, worst states to retire Ask ten people and you will get ten different lists. In all my years I have yet to hear anyone say they want to retire in North or South Dakota. They must use a dart board to come up with that list.

11-17-2010, 07:15 AM	#32
Parallax Senior Moderator Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: South Dakota Photos: Gallery Posts: 19,332	Originally posted by Ira ...................... As long as there are early bird specials and New York Jews, Florida will continue to be their preferred destination. And heat and lightning are non-issues too, because they only leave the house for those early bird specials. Ira, I just have to ask a question, and I really hope the answer is no. You don't wear casual slacks, 2 sizes too big, with a white belt and pulled up to just below your armpits, do you?

11-17-2010, 07:45 AM	#33
GeneV Veteran Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Albuquerque NM Photos: Albums Posts: 9,830	Originally posted by jogiba Ask ten people and you will get ten different lists. In all my years I have yet to hear anyone say they want to retire in North or South Dakota. They must use a dart board to come up with that list. I'd retire to South Dakota before Iowa. There is some breathtaking scenery in South Dakota. Not only is it beautiful, if you want to gamble away your retirement, there is always Deadwood. I agree about the dart board. Another factor that does not seem to be considered is that a retirement area needs to have enough urban nature to provide transportation and entertainment that appeal to older, less mobile persons. Half the activities that make New Mexico attractive to me may not work for me if I am fortunate enough to live past 85 (very common in Fl). Transportation from other states needs to be easy or the kids will never visit. Medical and long term care facilities should be plentiful and well developed. None of these things seem to factor into that article to the extent they factor into the decision by most elderly retirees.

11-17-2010, 10:36 AM	#34
Parallax Senior Moderator Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: South Dakota Photos: Gallery Posts: 19,332	Originally posted by jogiba .............. In all my years I have yet to hear anyone say they want to retire in North or South Dakota. .......... Yet, strangely, we have an awful lot of retired people here.

11-17-2010, 10:38 AM	#35
GeneV Veteran Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Albuquerque NM Photos: Albums Posts: 9,830	Originally posted by Parallax Yet, strangely, we have an awful lot of retired people here. Jim, you don't have an awful ot of people there--retired or not.

11-17-2010, 10:46 AM	#36
Parallax Senior Moderator Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: South Dakota Photos: Gallery Posts: 19,332	We have almost as many in the state as you have in Albuquerque. City of Albuquerque: 869,684 as of June 2010, according to the U.S. Census Bureau. State of South Dakota: 812,383 as of June 2009, according to the U.S. Census Bureau.

11-17-2010, 11:53 AM	#37
GeneV Veteran Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Albuquerque NM Photos: Albums Posts: 9,830	Originally posted by Parallax We have almost as many in the state as you have in Albuquerque. City of Albuquerque: 869,684 as of June 2010, according to the U.S. Census Bureau. State of South Dakota: 812,383 as of June 2009, according to the U.S. Census Bureau. We don't have an awful lot of people in New Mexico, either.

11-17-2010, 12:29 PM	#38
Parallax Senior Moderator Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: South Dakota Photos: Gallery Posts: 19,332	Originally posted by GeneV We don't have an awful lot of people in New Mexico, either. Maybe not, but NM is in my top 3 places that I want to retire.

11-18-2010, 09:09 AM	#40
cardinal43 Veteran Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Virginia Photos: Gallery Posts: 2,412	Originally posted by Parallax We have almost as many in the state as you have in Albuquerque. City of Albuquerque: 869,684 as of June 2010, according to the U.S. Census Bureau. State of South Dakota: 812,383 as of June 2009, according to the U.S. Census Bureau. Excuse my ignorance, but since Pierre has only 13K people, where are the most populous areas of SD? I have never been in either of the Dakotas, but that will change next spring (I hope) as my wife and I plan to drive from VA to WA to see our grandson.

11-18-2010, 10:03 AM	#41
Parallax Senior Moderator Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: South Dakota Photos: Gallery Posts: 19,332	Originally posted by cardinal43 Excuse my ignorance, but since Pierre has only 13K people, where are the most populous areas of SD? I have never been in either of the Dakotas, but that will change next spring (I hope) as my wife and I plan to drive from VA to WA to see our grandson. Sioux Falls, in the SW part of the state is the most populous. Rapid City, on the western end is next by "city" population, but I think factoring in the surrounding area it may have a greater population than Sioux Falls and its surrounding area. Aberdeen in the North East is third. (Technically, Ellsworth AFB, near Rapid City is third and Aberdeen is 4th). I don't have exact figures, but those 4 account for probably 80+% of the state's population.

11-18-2010, 03:36 PM	#42
GeneV Veteran Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Albuquerque NM Photos: Albums Posts: 9,830	Originally posted by Parallax Sioux Falls, in the SW part of the state is the most populous. Rapid City, on the western end is next by "city" population, but I think factoring in the surrounding area it may have a greater population than Sioux Falls and its surrounding area. Aberdeen in the North East is third. (Technically, Ellsworth AFB, near Rapid City is third and Aberdeen is 4th). I don't have exact figures, but those 4 account for probably 80+% of the state's population. My old girlfriend was from the Rapid City so I used to spend some time up there. Rapid seemed like the most populous area to me. Hot Springs was my favorite place to stay--great B&B on top of the bluff, but that was almost 20 years ago.

11-18-2010, 04:02 PM	#43
Parallax Senior Moderator Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: South Dakota Photos: Gallery Posts: 19,332	Since you have been in this area (anything within 500 miles qualifies as "in the area" around here.) My guess is that you are the only one on the forum that knows how Pierre is pronounced in South Dakota.

11-18-2010, 04:25 PM	#44
GeneV Veteran Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Albuquerque NM Photos: Albums Posts: 9,830	Originally posted by Parallax Since you have been in this area (anything within 500 miles qualifies as "in the area" around here.) My guess is that you are the only one on the forum that knows how Pierre is pronounced in South Dakota. Actually, I got that from a peer from Pierre with whom I used to practice law.

11-18-2010, 04:36 PM	#45
MRRiley Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Sterling, VA, USA Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 6,275	Hey... I've been BY Pierre on the interstate... and my avatar is a self portrait from the badlands when we were out for Sturgis Bike Week and Boozefest... sooooo how DO you promnounce Pierre?