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12-10-2010, 09:13 PM   #1
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President Nafta Backs President Shafta

Thought this was funny..........
Jeff Cohen: President Nafta Backs President Shafta
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And Obama seems to have less backbone and firm principles than even Bill Clinton -- even more prone to a Stockholm syndrome-tendency to cozy up to his Republican batterers.
So it was quite a scene today, with CNN pundits almost giddy that the gray ghost of pro-corporate "bipartisan compromise" was back at the White House.
Meanwhile, independent Bernie Sanders was electrifying much of the country by railing for 8 and hours in the Senate against the wealthy getting billions in tax breaks while deficit-hawks take aim at Social Security and other vital programs.
I'm sure I wasn't the only American fantasizing that one day a fighting independent like Bernie would be in the White House.
Instead, with Obama, we seem to be getting the best Republican president since . . . well . . . since Clinton.
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In Washington, the temperature dipped into the 20s this week, which is evidently the point when hell freezes over: President Obama reached an agreement on the Bush tax cuts with the Republican Senate leader who said "the single most important thing we want to achieve is for President Obama to be a one-term president." Sen. Bernie Sanders, a socialist from Vermont, and Sen. Jim DeMint, an arch-conservative from South Carolina, threatened to filibuster the agreement. Liberal Democrats said they'd prefer a permanent extension of most of the tax cuts, and the architect of those cuts said the country couldn't afford anything more than a temporary extension.

It's been a little confusing.
1) No one really cares about the deficit. No sooner had Alan Simpson and Erskine Bowles completed their work on the deficit reduction package than Democrats and Republicans reached a bipartisan accord to add $900 billion to the debt.
2) Obama is better at the inside game than the outside game.Sarah Palin likes to ask the president "how that hopey-changey stuff" is going. The answer, it seems, is that the changey stuff is going well, but the hopey stuff is proving more troublesome.
3) And he's not over health-care reform.
4) Republicans really, really, really care about tax cuts for rich people.
5) It's still Ronald Reagan's world, at least when it comes to taxes.
6) We need tax reform, now more than ever. The end result of this deal is going to be an even weirder tax code than we have now - and the one we have now is pretty weird. We're extending old tax cuts and credits and adding new ones. Some of those may be extended further. Businesses won't want to see deductions for investments expire, and workers won't want to see the payroll-tax cut expire, and the super-rich won't want to see the tax exemption for estates up to $5 million expire. There are so many constituencies fighting for so many breaks that the only hope we're going to have when we actually do need to reduce the deficit - which isn't yet, but will be soon - is to start from square one on the tax code.

Ezra Klein - Column: Six lessons from the tax deal
Annnnnndddd here's johnnny.............
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"'The Deal' or 'The Tax Deal' as it is becoming known around the country between President Obama and Congressional Leadership is problematic," TPP's national coordinator team writes in the message. "This is a deal that needs to be opposed."

The Patriots leadership says the deal violates several tenets of the "Pledge To America" Republican leaders presented by incoming House Speaker John Boehner and other House leaders back in September. One purpose of the pledge -- like so much of what the Republicans did on the campaign trail this year -- was to show a unity of purpose with the fired up tea party base.

The Tea Party Patriots say the the tax cut plan signals that relationship may not be as much of a priority as the Republicans said.

Pointing to a TownHall.com article by conservative commentator Hugh Hewitt, the TPP says the tax cut deal runs afoul of several promises made by the Republicans when they signed the pledge:

"Permanently Stop All Job-Killing Tax Hikes" (p. 16)

"Act immediately to Reduce Spending" (p. 21)

"Cut Government Spending to Pre-Stimulus, Pre-Bailout Levels" (p. 21)

"Read the Bill" (p. 33)

"Advance Legislative Issues One at a Time" (p. 33)

Hewitt writes that the tax cut deal violates these promises, and raises questions about the honesty of the Republicans who signed it.

"'The deal's' assault on 'The Pledge' will make the latter a joke," he writes, as the TPP points out. "And instantly impacts the credibility of all future efforts to propose agendas to the electorate."

The TPP is calling on its members to call their Senators and members of Congress as well as Boehner and Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell in an effort to shut the deal down before it comes up for a vote.

"Make these 5 Calls today, right now," the TPP leaders write. "Say you oppose the tax deal and want them to vote no."
Tea Party Patriots Reject Tax Cut Deal, Call For It To Be Destroyed | TPMDC


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12-11-2010, 09:13 AM   #2
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On the 'Tea Party.' Pretty much spelled out.

Tea'd Off | Politics | Vanity Fair

Seems to me that the GOP stonewalling, etc, is just to the end of continuing to loot for that richest .5 percent that owns more than most of the rest of us combined, while of course, dismantling the ability of 'the gummint' to do anything about it but divide people over various other things.
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