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jogiba · 01-06-2011, 07:05 PM

O'REILLY: I'll tell you why [religion's] not a scam, in my opinion: tide goes in, tide goes out. Never a miscommunication. You can't explain that.
SILVERMAN: Tide goes in, tide goes out?

O'REILLY: See, the water, the tide comes in and it goes out, Mr. Silverman. It always comes in, and always goes out. You can't explain that.

Bill O'Reilly on Science: You Can't Explain the Tides - O'Reilly flubs science in debate with man behind atheist billboards

Sparkle · 01-06-2011, 07:14 PM

" The Spin Stops Here" must be interpreted to mean that no one can put a better spin on things than that blowhard. Interesting program however!

SpecialK · 01-06-2011, 09:02 PM

It is unimportant what he credits God for. It's that he credits God.

Supernaut · 01-07-2011, 01:21 AM

I don't get it. Is this O'Reilly show regarded as entertainment only or is it for real?

I saw a short clip for a long time ago where he were clueless about something else (I think it was energy production/consumption in scandinavia). He was telling lies without hesitating. I disregarded it as right wing misinformation/lobbying from FOX at the time but later thought that it may have been just for fun.

Sparkle · 01-07-2011, 01:53 AM

Mr. Silverman (above), who O'Reilly had on his show, is head of an Atheist association in the USA. The hour long show on Fox airs weekdays at 8 pm, 11 pm, and 5 am EST. It has over 3 million viewers and is rated the # 1 news show in cable TV. Its been on since 1996. He personally makes $10,000,000.00 /year. He is a devote Irish bred Christian.

Parallax · 01-07-2011, 06:14 AM

Originally posted by Supernaut

....... He was telling lies without hesitating.

They teach that in journalism 101.

newarts · 01-07-2011, 06:34 AM

Originally posted by Supernaut

....
He was telling lies without hesitating. .....
.

When an ignorant person utters an untruth is it a lie? I think not; to tell a lie implies intent to deceive.

He likely believes the ignorant foolishness he spouts and thinks his passion is sufficient proof of truth; unfortunately, much of the public apparently agrees.

JohnInIndy · 01-07-2011, 07:08 AM

Originally posted by newarts

When an ignorant person utters an untruth is it a lie? I think not; to tell a lie implies intent to deceive.

He likely believes the ignorant foolishness he spouts and thinks his passion is sufficient proof of truth; unfortunately, much of the public apparently agrees.

When a Republican says something you fail to agree with it's a lie. When a democrat utters something you fail to agree with they ram it down your maw and make it a law.

Parallax, that only occurs in the liberal colleges. Which is almost all of them eh?

newarts · 01-07-2011, 07:41 AM

Originally posted by JohnInIndy

When a Republican says something you fail to agree with it's a lie. When a democrat utters something you fail to agree with they ram it down your maw and make it a law....

Ignorance is ignorance regardless of political or philosophical bent. Neither passion nor faith implies truth (except maybe in religious or political philosophy where truth is predefined and independent of reality.)

Ratmagiclady · 01-07-2011, 08:22 AM

If O'Reilly doesn't know that almost any child can explain how the tide comes in and goes out, then when he says 'You can't explain that' ...Well, colossal ignorance or massive dishonesty, take your pick.

gokenin · 01-07-2011, 09:00 AM

ok without looking at wikipedia or anywhere else give me the reason for the tides coming in and going out.

Tom S. · 01-07-2011, 09:07 AM

Originally posted by gokenin

ok without looking at wikipedia or anywhere else give me the reason for the tides coming in and going out.

Here's a clue - look up in the night sky...

gokenin · 01-07-2011, 09:22 AM

simplistic answer and the moon is not the only cause of a wave the moons gravitational effect has influence on the height of the waves it is not the cause of the waves. try again

reeftool · 01-07-2011, 09:28 AM

Back in seventh grade, the tides were caused by the gravitational pull of the moon and the earths rotation. Did something change?

There are many unexplainable forces. The tides are not one of them. If Bill O'Reilly wants to debate the issue of creation and religion vs scientific theory, he shouldn't be asking questions that can be answered on the "Ask a Fifth Grader" show.

Sparkle · 01-07-2011, 09:41 AM

My thought is that, like many, that it is , as the Lady above says "colossal ignorance". IMO it is predicated on a fear to understand the reality. The fear of diminishing the concept of a god. But let us not get into that again.

My question is why are people afraid to call another a "lier". News commentators and others insist that one has "mis-spoken" when clearly the person has lied. One may mis-speak if one uses a malaprop or mis-reads a word or accidentally mis-quotes someone for examples. However, one who makes a false statement with a deliberate intent to deceive is a lier.

01-06-2011, 07:05 PM	#1
jogiba Banned Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Millstone,NJ Posts: 6,491	Bill O'Reilly is clueless about the Tides ! O'REILLY: I'll tell you why [religion's] not a scam, in my opinion: tide goes in, tide goes out. Never a miscommunication. You can't explain that. SILVERMAN: Tide goes in, tide goes out? O'REILLY: See, the water, the tide comes in and it goes out, Mr. Silverman. It always comes in, and always goes out. You can't explain that. Bill O'Reilly on Science: You Can't Explain the Tides - O'Reilly flubs science in debate with man behind atheist billboards

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01-06-2011, 07:14 PM	#2
Sparkle Inactive Account Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Halifax, Nova Scotia Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 1,521	" The Spin Stops Here" must be interpreted to mean that no one can put a better spin on things than that blowhard. Interesting program however!

01-06-2011, 09:02 PM	#3
SpecialK Pentaxian Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: So California Photos: Gallery Posts: 16,482	It is unimportant what he credits God for. It's that he credits God.

01-07-2011, 01:21 AM	#4
Supernaut Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: West Coast , Sweden Posts: 467	I don't get it. Is this O'Reilly show regarded as entertainment only or is it for real? I saw a short clip for a long time ago where he were clueless about something else (I think it was energy production/consumption in scandinavia). He was telling lies without hesitating. I disregarded it as right wing misinformation/lobbying from FOX at the time but later thought that it may have been just for fun.

01-07-2011, 01:53 AM	#5
Sparkle Inactive Account Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Halifax, Nova Scotia Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 1,521	Mr. Silverman (above), who O'Reilly had on his show, is head of an Atheist association in the USA. The hour long show on Fox airs weekdays at 8 pm, 11 pm, and 5 am EST. It has over 3 million viewers and is rated the # 1 news show in cable TV. Its been on since 1996. He personally makes $10,000,000.00 /year. He is a devote Irish bred Christian.

01-07-2011, 06:14 AM	#6
Parallax Senior Moderator Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: South Dakota Photos: Gallery Posts: 19,333	Originally posted by Supernaut ....... He was telling lies without hesitating. They teach that in journalism 101.

01-07-2011, 06:34 AM	#7
newarts Inactive Account Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Ames, Iowa, USA Photos: Albums Posts: 2,965	Originally posted by Supernaut .... He was telling lies without hesitating. ..... . When an ignorant person utters an untruth is it a lie? I think not; to tell a lie implies intent to deceive. He likely believes the ignorant foolishness he spouts and thinks his passion is sufficient proof of truth; unfortunately, much of the public apparently agrees.

01-07-2011, 07:08 AM	#8
JohnInIndy Veteran Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Posts: 794	Originally posted by newarts When an ignorant person utters an untruth is it a lie? I think not; to tell a lie implies intent to deceive. He likely believes the ignorant foolishness he spouts and thinks his passion is sufficient proof of truth; unfortunately, much of the public apparently agrees. When a Republican says something you fail to agree with it's a lie. When a democrat utters something you fail to agree with they ram it down your maw and make it a law. Parallax, that only occurs in the liberal colleges. Which is almost all of them eh?

01-07-2011, 07:41 AM	#9
newarts Inactive Account Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Ames, Iowa, USA Photos: Albums Posts: 2,965	Originally posted by JohnInIndy When a Republican says something you fail to agree with it's a lie. When a democrat utters something you fail to agree with they ram it down your maw and make it a law.... Ignorance is ignorance regardless of political or philosophical bent. Neither passion nor faith implies truth (except maybe in religious or political philosophy where truth is predefined and independent of reality.)

01-07-2011, 08:22 AM	#10
Ratmagiclady Veteran Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: GA Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 13,563	If O'Reilly doesn't know that almost any child can explain how the tide comes in and goes out, then when he says 'You can't explain that' ...Well, colossal ignorance or massive dishonesty, take your pick.

01-07-2011, 09:00 AM	#11
gokenin Veteran Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: lowell,ma Posts: 1,899	ok without looking at wikipedia or anywhere else give me the reason for the tides coming in and going out.

01-07-2011, 09:07 AM	#12
Tom S. Veteran Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: S.E. Michigan Photos: Albums Posts: 4,317	Originally posted by gokenin ok without looking at wikipedia or anywhere else give me the reason for the tides coming in and going out. Here's a clue - look up in the night sky...

01-07-2011, 09:22 AM	#13
gokenin Veteran Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: lowell,ma Posts: 1,899	simplistic answer and the moon is not the only cause of a wave the moons gravitational effect has influence on the height of the waves it is not the cause of the waves. try again

01-07-2011, 09:28 AM	#14
reeftool Pentaxian Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Upstate New York Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 9,555	Back in seventh grade, the tides were caused by the gravitational pull of the moon and the earths rotation. Did something change? There are many unexplainable forces. The tides are not one of them. If Bill O'Reilly wants to debate the issue of creation and religion vs scientific theory, he shouldn't be asking questions that can be answered on the "Ask a Fifth Grader" show.

01-07-2011, 09:41 AM	#15
Sparkle Inactive Account Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Halifax, Nova Scotia Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 1,521	My thought is that, like many, that it is , as the Lady above says "colossal ignorance". IMO it is predicated on a fear to understand the reality. The fear of diminishing the concept of a god. But let us not get into that again. My question is why are people afraid to call another a "lier". News commentators and others insist that one has "mis-spoken" when clearly the person has lied. One may mis-speak if one uses a malaprop or mis-reads a word or accidentally mis-quotes someone for examples. However, one who makes a false statement with a deliberate intent to deceive is a lier.

Bill O'Reilly is clueless about the Tides !

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