13 year old Australian drowns to save brother

Sparkle · 01-12-2011, 06:53 PM

And his mother drowned with him so he would not drown alone!

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Mike Cash · 01-13-2011, 03:34 AM

"...bystanders looked on..."

When have they not?

lithos · 01-13-2011, 03:54 AM

Originally posted by Mike Cash

"...bystanders looked on..."

When have they not?

What would you rather they have done? Would it have been less of a tragedy if more people drowned?

Mike Cash · 01-13-2011, 04:25 AM

Originally posted by lithos

What would you rather they have done? Would it have been less of a tragedy if more people drowned?

I would rather they had done like the truck driver and made at least some effort to help the people rather than stand there and gawk. I can't understand what was lacking in my previous post that this needed to be spelled out.

Why is there a presumption that more people would have drowned had the gawking bystanders attempted to render some sort of assistance? Especially in the face of the very clear fact that one fewer drowned thanks to the efforts of the one person who couldn't bear to stand by and gawk while others were in mortal peril.

**Ash** · 01-13-2011, 05:12 AM

Mike, unfortunately not all have such instinct to even attempt to save a drowning victim, neither will everyone be confident they can withstand a forceful torrent of flood water. Have you seen the power of the floodwater that swept through Toowoomba on the videos? Perhaps then you may appreciate why most bystanders could not have done very much at all in the circumstances.

lithos · 01-13-2011, 07:05 AM

Originally posted by Mike Cash

I would rather they had done like the truck driver and made at least some effort to help the people rather than stand there and gawk. I can't understand what was lacking in my previous post that this needed to be spelled out.

Suggestions would've been handy, since you're confident you can perfectly assess the situation from news article enough to tell others what they did was not the right thing to do.

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Why is there a presumption that more people would have drowned had the gawking bystanders attempted to render some sort of assistance?

Why is there a presumption everything would've been better?

Sparkle · 01-13-2011, 09:05 AM

Hey Laddies, lets not argue. Just remember that poor little tyke and his mom. From how the father expresses himself, it appears they were rather simple folk. God bless them all. It is so very much a tragedy. Hope everyone can cope.

Lloydy · 01-13-2011, 02:59 PM

I've just watched an interview with the guy who rescued the younger boy, it was probably the most heartbreaking thing I've ever watched on TV.

JACOBY · 01-14-2011, 04:45 AM

He will be in heaven nothing else said

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01-13-2011, 03:34 AM	#2
Mike Cash Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Japan Photos: Gallery Posts: 6,950	"...bystanders looked on..." When have they not?

01-13-2011, 03:54 AM	#3
lithos Inactive Account Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Brisbane, QLD, AUS Posts: 3,261	Originally posted by Mike Cash "...bystanders looked on..." When have they not? What would you rather they have done? Would it have been less of a tragedy if more people drowned?

01-13-2011, 04:25 AM	#4
Mike Cash Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Japan Photos: Gallery Posts: 6,950	Originally posted by lithos What would you rather they have done? Would it have been less of a tragedy if more people drowned? I would rather they had done like the truck driver and made at least some effort to help the people rather than stand there and gawk. I can't understand what was lacking in my previous post that this needed to be spelled out. Why is there a presumption that more people would have drowned had the gawking bystanders attempted to render some sort of assistance? Especially in the face of the very clear fact that one fewer drowned thanks to the efforts of the one person who couldn't bear to stand by and gawk while others were in mortal peril.

01-13-2011, 05:12 AM	#5
Ash Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Toowoomba, Queensland Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 23,920	Mike, unfortunately not all have such instinct to even attempt to save a drowning victim, neither will everyone be confident they can withstand a forceful torrent of flood water. Have you seen the power of the floodwater that swept through Toowoomba on the videos? Perhaps then you may appreciate why most bystanders could not have done very much at all in the circumstances.

01-13-2011, 07:05 AM	#6
lithos Inactive Account Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Brisbane, QLD, AUS Posts: 3,261	Originally posted by Mike Cash I would rather they had done like the truck driver and made at least some effort to help the people rather than stand there and gawk. I can't understand what was lacking in my previous post that this needed to be spelled out. Suggestions would've been handy, since you're confident you can perfectly assess the situation from news article enough to tell others what they did was not the right thing to do. Quote: Why is there a presumption that more people would have drowned had the gawking bystanders attempted to render some sort of assistance? Why is there a presumption everything would've been better?

01-13-2011, 09:05 AM	#7
Sparkle Inactive Account Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Halifax, Nova Scotia Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 1,521 Original Poster	Hey Laddies, lets not argue. Just remember that poor little tyke and his mom. From how the father expresses himself, it appears they were rather simple folk. God bless them all. It is so very much a tragedy. Hope everyone can cope.

01-13-2011, 02:59 PM	#8
Lloydy Veteran Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Shropshire, UK Posts: 1,114	I've just watched an interview with the guy who rescued the younger boy, it was probably the most heartbreaking thing I've ever watched on TV.

01-14-2011, 04:45 AM	#9
JACOBY Veteran Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: PGH PENNA Posts: 340	He will be in heaven nothing else said