USA "Going down the tubes"

SteveM · 01-23-2011, 10:42 PM

Originally posted by Wheatfield

Actually, it was 2,308,360 who voted yes (49.42%), and 2,362,648 (50.58%) who voted no, so while it was close, it was not the win for the separatists that it would have been if the numbers you made up were correct.

Good thing the republicans / Bush wasn't running the campaign. They would have won at 49.42 cause democracy doesn't matter for winning democratic elections

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Sparkle · 01-24-2011, 05:01 AM

Originally posted by Parallax

This should be amusing. A Canadian and a Brit regaling each other with how much they think they know about the U.S.

:corn:

I simply reported, wiithout comment, what is saiid on USA TV.

Sparkle · 01-24-2011, 05:02 AM

Originally posted by Ira

Agreed.

I simply reported what was said on USA TV.

Ira · 01-24-2011, 05:57 AM

Many Canadians simply suffer from an inferiority complex.

And that causes them to comment on only the bad aspects of the U.S., but more damaging and pathological, is they're HOPING that bad things happen.

But they get angry because the reality is, America is still the best place to live in the world, Americans are proud of this fact, and foreigners mistake that pride for arrogance.

Because after all, what do Canadians have to be proud of?

Parallax · 01-24-2011, 06:09 AM

Originally posted by Ira

Many Canadians simply suffer from an inferiority complex.

And that causes them to comment on only the bad aspects of the U.S., but more damaging and pathological, is they're HOPING that bad things happen.

But they get angry because the reality is, America is still the best place to live in the world, Americans are proud of this fact, and foreigners mistake that pride for arrogance.

Because after all, what do Canadians have to be proud of?

Pretty good assessment with regard to the Candadians. I have my own theory as to the British view. The Brits are ambivalent toward us, and understandably so. We kicked their butt twice and saved it once. They don't know how to feel about us.

mel · 01-24-2011, 03:09 PM

Originally posted by Ira

Because after all, what do Canadians have to be proud of?

Hockey.

ihasa · 01-24-2011, 03:29 PM

Originally posted by Sparkle

I simply reported what was said on USA TV.

Yep.

I don't think either of us 'passed any form of judgment' just commented on the clip and website :ugh:

ihasa · 01-24-2011, 03:52 PM

Originally posted by Parallax

The Brits are ambivalent toward us, and understandably so. We kicked their butt twice and saved it once. They don't know how to feel about us.

Ambivalent is a good word for it... came to WWII as late as possible, after large parts of our country was reduced to rubble and tracts of Europe were over run with nazis....

On the other hand, you gave us a massive loan after WWII which payed for the setting up of our National Health Service

We signed up to the two most unpopular wars in recent memory for you, lost hundreds of soldiers lives, and destroyed what little reputation we had in the process.

There's no animosity - virtually all Brits love America and Americans, but I don't think we'll be playing your 'pocket pal' in international affairs any longer (the Blair/Bush thing made us wanna spew) - and apparently you don't want us to, so it's all good really! Good luck securing France's assistance next time there's a country you guys wanna invade

Parallax · 01-24-2011, 03:56 PM

Originally posted by ihasa

..........but I don't think we'll be playing your 'pocket pal' in international affairs any longer - ........

I certainly can't blame you for that.
WWII was the last war, or armed conflict of any kind, that we went into with the intention of winning.

ihasa · 01-24-2011, 04:11 PM

There's absolutely no ill feeling about American Independence by the way. The USA was the kid that grew up, rebelled and stood on it's own two feet. Admirable, if anything. Meanwhile Canada's still upstairs in the box room, and Australia has it's own bedsit in the garage.

If I lived in those countries, I would get very very angry at seeing the Queen's head on my money. I get annoyed seeing the Queen on our money!

Wheatfield · 01-24-2011, 04:45 PM

Originally posted by Ira

Many Canadians simply suffer from an inferiority complex.

And that causes them to comment on only the bad aspects of the U.S., but more damaging and pathological, is they're HOPING that bad things happen.

But they get angry because the reality is, America is still the best place to live in the world, Americans are proud of this fact, and foreigners mistake that pride for arrogance.

Because after all, what do Canadians have to be proud of?

Well, if that isn't arrogant blustering, I don't know what is.
Pardon me, I do know what it is.
It's arrogant bluster from someone who really only knows how to take cheap shots.
We don't have to hope that bad things happen down there, we just know that you guys are going to make bad things happen all by yourselves.

Are you really proud of the violence, the level of discourse that passes for politics, the attempted murder of politicians, the successful murder of politicians?
Are you really proud of Glen beck, Rush Limbaugh and Sarah Palin?

What do Canadians have to be proud of?
We aren't Americans for starts.
Actually, for the purpose of this discussion, that is ample.

Originally posted by Parallax

I certainly can't blame you for that.
WWII was the last war, or armed conflict of any kind, that we went into with the intention of winning.

One of the last ones you went into for the right reasons too.....

Originally posted by ihasa

There's absolutely no ill feeling about American Independence by the way. The USA was the kid that grew up, rebelled and stood on it's own two feet. Admirable, if anything. Meanwhile Canada's still upstairs in the box room, and Australia has it's own bedsit in the garage.

If I lived in those countries, I would get very very angry at seeing the Queen's head on my money. I get annoyed seeing the Queen on our money!

You need to learn something about world politics. I can't speak for Oz, but we did, in fact, cut the apron strings while Pierre Trudeau was or Prime Minister some 30 years ago.
I take it you missed that part of the program.

GeneV · 01-24-2011, 04:49 PM

Originally posted by Parallax

I certainly can't blame you for that.
WWII was the last war, or armed conflict of any kind, that we went into with the intention of winning.

There haven't been too many recent ones we (or anyone else) had a real hope of winning or a clear concept of what winning would look like, either, but that is another story. One of the things Ron and Ralph are teaming up to stop. At least France and England had the good sense to avoid overt participation in our civil war.

Tommot1965 · 01-25-2011, 12:54 AM

Originally posted by ihasa

I don't think we'll be playing your 'pocket pal' in international affairs any longer (the Blair/Bush thing made us wanna spew) - and apparently you don't want us to, so it's all good really! Good luck securing France's assistance next time there's a country you guys wanna invade

it happened way before Blair and Bush...Thatcher and Regan were love birds to..

we just had Oprah Winfrey over here...she was treated like a friggen god...that was sickening..I was glad Im not a Aussie when that was going on...

BillM · 01-25-2011, 01:50 AM

Originally posted by Ira

Many Canadians simply suffer from an inferiority complex

way everyone gets "pic'd off" thought someone was trying to generate ad revenue.

ihasa · 01-25-2011, 05:02 AM

Originally posted by Wheatfield

You need to learn something about world politics. I can't speak for Oz, but we did, in fact, cut the apron strings while Pierre Trudeau was or Prime Minister some 30 years ago.
I take it you missed that part of the program.

I was, of course, only teasing!

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01-23-2011, 10:42 PM	#16
SteveM Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Vancouver Island, BC, Canada Photos: Gallery Posts: 3,294	Originally posted by Wheatfield Actually, it was 2,308,360 who voted yes (49.42%), and 2,362,648 (50.58%) who voted no, so while it was close, it was not the win for the separatists that it would have been if the numbers you made up were correct. Good thing the republicans / Bush wasn't running the campaign. They would have won at 49.42 cause democracy doesn't matter for winning democratic elections .

01-24-2011, 05:01 AM	#17
Sparkle Inactive Account Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Halifax, Nova Scotia Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 1,521 Original Poster	Originally posted by Parallax This should be amusing. A Canadian and a Brit regaling each other with how much they think they know about the U.S. :corn: I simply reported, wiithout comment, what is saiid on USA TV.

01-24-2011, 05:02 AM	#18
Sparkle Inactive Account Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Halifax, Nova Scotia Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 1,521 Original Poster	Originally posted by Ira Agreed. I simply reported what was said on USA TV.

01-24-2011, 05:57 AM	#19
Ira Inactive Account Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Coral Springs, FL Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 5,216	Many Canadians simply suffer from an inferiority complex. And that causes them to comment on only the bad aspects of the U.S., but more damaging and pathological, is they're HOPING that bad things happen. But they get angry because the reality is, America is still the best place to live in the world, Americans are proud of this fact, and foreigners mistake that pride for arrogance. Because after all, what do Canadians have to be proud of?

01-24-2011, 06:09 AM	#20
Parallax Senior Moderator Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: South Dakota Photos: Gallery Posts: 19,332	Originally posted by Ira Many Canadians simply suffer from an inferiority complex. And that causes them to comment on only the bad aspects of the U.S., but more damaging and pathological, is they're HOPING that bad things happen. But they get angry because the reality is, America is still the best place to live in the world, Americans are proud of this fact, and foreigners mistake that pride for arrogance. Because after all, what do Canadians have to be proud of? Pretty good assessment with regard to the Candadians. I have my own theory as to the British view. The Brits are ambivalent toward us, and understandably so. We kicked their butt twice and saved it once. They don't know how to feel about us.

01-24-2011, 03:09 PM	#21
mel Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Virginia Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 2,531	Originally posted by Ira Because after all, what do Canadians have to be proud of? Hockey.

01-24-2011, 03:29 PM	#22
ihasa Veteran Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: West Midlands Photos: Gallery Posts: 2,066	Originally posted by Sparkle I simply reported what was said on USA TV. Yep. I don't think either of us 'passed any form of judgment' just commented on the clip and website :ugh:

01-24-2011, 03:52 PM	#23
ihasa Veteran Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: West Midlands Photos: Gallery Posts: 2,066	Originally posted by Parallax The Brits are ambivalent toward us, and understandably so. We kicked their butt twice and saved it once. They don't know how to feel about us. Ambivalent is a good word for it... came to WWII as late as possible, after large parts of our country was reduced to rubble and tracts of Europe were over run with nazis.... On the other hand, you gave us a massive loan after WWII which payed for the setting up of our National Health Service We signed up to the two most unpopular wars in recent memory for you, lost hundreds of soldiers lives, and destroyed what little reputation we had in the process. There's no animosity - virtually all Brits love America and Americans, but I don't think we'll be playing your 'pocket pal' in international affairs any longer (the Blair/Bush thing made us wanna spew) - and apparently you don't want us to, so it's all good really! Good luck securing France's assistance next time there's a country you guys wanna invade

01-24-2011, 03:56 PM	#24
Parallax Senior Moderator Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: South Dakota Photos: Gallery Posts: 19,332	Originally posted by ihasa ..........but I don't think we'll be playing your 'pocket pal' in international affairs any longer - ........ I certainly can't blame you for that. WWII was the last war, or armed conflict of any kind, that we went into with the intention of winning.

01-24-2011, 04:11 PM	#25
ihasa Veteran Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: West Midlands Photos: Gallery Posts: 2,066	There's absolutely no ill feeling about American Independence by the way. The USA was the kid that grew up, rebelled and stood on it's own two feet. Admirable, if anything. Meanwhile Canada's still upstairs in the box room, and Australia has it's own bedsit in the garage. If I lived in those countries, I would get very very angry at seeing the Queen's head on my money. I get annoyed seeing the Queen on our money!

01-24-2011, 04:45 PM	#26
Wheatfield Moderator Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: The wheatfields of Canada Posts: 15,986	Originally posted by Ira Many Canadians simply suffer from an inferiority complex. And that causes them to comment on only the bad aspects of the U.S., but more damaging and pathological, is they're HOPING that bad things happen. But they get angry because the reality is, America is still the best place to live in the world, Americans are proud of this fact, and foreigners mistake that pride for arrogance. Because after all, what do Canadians have to be proud of? Well, if that isn't arrogant blustering, I don't know what is. Pardon me, I do know what it is. It's arrogant bluster from someone who really only knows how to take cheap shots. We don't have to hope that bad things happen down there, we just know that you guys are going to make bad things happen all by yourselves. Are you really proud of the violence, the level of discourse that passes for politics, the attempted murder of politicians, the successful murder of politicians? Are you really proud of Glen beck, Rush Limbaugh and Sarah Palin? What do Canadians have to be proud of? We aren't Americans for starts. Actually, for the purpose of this discussion, that is ample. Originally posted by Parallax I certainly can't blame you for that. WWII was the last war, or armed conflict of any kind, that we went into with the intention of winning. One of the last ones you went into for the right reasons too..... Originally posted by ihasa There's absolutely no ill feeling about American Independence by the way. The USA was the kid that grew up, rebelled and stood on it's own two feet. Admirable, if anything. Meanwhile Canada's still upstairs in the box room, and Australia has it's own bedsit in the garage. If I lived in those countries, I would get very very angry at seeing the Queen's head on my money. I get annoyed seeing the Queen on our money! You need to learn something about world politics. I can't speak for Oz, but we did, in fact, cut the apron strings while Pierre Trudeau was or Prime Minister some 30 years ago. I take it you missed that part of the program.

01-24-2011, 04:49 PM	#27
GeneV Veteran Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Albuquerque NM Photos: Albums Posts: 9,830	Originally posted by Parallax I certainly can't blame you for that. WWII was the last war, or armed conflict of any kind, that we went into with the intention of winning. There haven't been too many recent ones we (or anyone else) had a real hope of winning or a clear concept of what winning would look like, either, but that is another story. One of the things Ron and Ralph are teaming up to stop. At least France and England had the good sense to avoid overt participation in our civil war.

01-25-2011, 12:54 AM	#28
Tommot1965 Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Perth Western Australia Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 1,026	Originally posted by ihasa I don't think we'll be playing your 'pocket pal' in international affairs any longer (the Blair/Bush thing made us wanna spew) - and apparently you don't want us to, so it's all good really! Good luck securing France's assistance next time there's a country you guys wanna invade it happened way before Blair and Bush...Thatcher and Regan were love birds to.. we just had Oprah Winfrey over here...she was treated like a friggen god...that was sickening..I was glad Im not a Aussie when that was going on...

01-25-2011, 01:50 AM	#29
BillM Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Ferguson, Mo. Photos: Gallery Posts: 1,348	Originally posted by Ira Many Canadians simply suffer from an inferiority complex way everyone gets "pic'd off" thought someone was trying to generate ad revenue.

01-25-2011, 05:02 AM	#30
ihasa Veteran Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: West Midlands Photos: Gallery Posts: 2,066	Originally posted by Wheatfield You need to learn something about world politics. I can't speak for Oz, but we did, in fact, cut the apron strings while Pierre Trudeau was or Prime Minister some 30 years ago. I take it you missed that part of the program. I was, of course, only teasing!