don't let renters vote

redrockcoulee · 02-26-2011, 11:09 AM

Originally posted by gokenin

I hate to burst the idiots bubble but how many people in America actually own the property outright? I mean debt free because even though you may "own" a house and pay mortgage payments you don't actually own it till the loan is payed off. I wonder if this guy has a mortgage on his house if he does then as far as I am concerned he falls into the rent to own category and shouldn't be allowed to vote either.

Actually having a loan or mortgage against your property does not mean you are not the property owner. Your name is on the property deed, the tax roles and it is you and not the bank that gets the ticket for failure to keep down the weeds or shovel the snow. And there is no way of actually being able to determine if the property owner owes money on a piece of property if there is no lien or chattel registered against it which if you used a private loan or a line of credit may be the case. Would someone owning an apartment building get to vote once for each suite?

If I only rent to own then would the 'owner' of my house please come and do the repairs

larryinlc · 02-26-2011, 11:19 AM

I think every renter in the country would be happy to give up their right to vote provided the landlord gives up his/her right to collect rent.

Wheatfield · 02-26-2011, 02:32 PM

Originally posted by larryinlc

I think every renter in the country would be happy to give up their right to vote provided the landlord gives up his/her right to collect rent.

I suppose and their right to pay taxes.
Jim, I was giving some credit that your election process is perhaps one rung above that of Haiti.
I'll try to not make the same mistake again.

Green_Manelishi · 02-26-2011, 02:55 PM

Originally posted by Ratmagiclady

Well, the more the GOP gets their way, the more they need to stack the deck against regular people to seem 'populist.' If everyone *in* this country voted, they'd have become a dim memory twenty years ago.

Then it's a good thing the ignorant beast remains at home, sitting on the couch watching American Idol.

Ratmagiclady · 02-26-2011, 08:22 PM

Originally posted by Green_Manelishi

Then it's a good thing the ignorant beast remains at home, sitting on the couch watching American Idol.

See? Look at this paragon of the ideals of freedom, democracy, hard work and opportunity...

Oh, wait, you mean feudalism, oppression, greed, usury, and entitled aristocracy.

Bread and circuses! Or, well, Wonderbread and circuses. Wait, no, Bread's for Commies.

shooz · 02-26-2011, 09:47 PM

Originally posted by Green_Manelishi

ignorant beast

'Splain this please.

To whom are you refering?

BillM · 02-26-2011, 10:21 PM

We dealt with this here in St.Louis county some years ago.Folks called themselves
"Freeholders".If I remember right,actually cleared committee and set to go to county
council for vote.Were so many legal challenges successful at every level agaisnt
that it was thought that it slithered back underneath to what ever rock it came
from and died.Is this the best the 'pubs' can do to get our economy moving again.
Just more smoke.By the By,believe these freeholdin folks owe native american
landlords some back rent.

Tom S. · 02-27-2011, 10:24 AM

Originally posted by GeneV

I suppose next they will want to bring back slavery and the 4/5ths rule.

Oh, we still have slavery - at least we did until I retired.

Parallax · 02-27-2011, 12:01 PM

Originally posted by Wheatfield

Jim, I was giving some credit that your election process is perhaps one rung above that of Haiti.
I'll try to not make the same mistake again.

I appreciate the effort, Bill. I think we are still a bit farther up the ladder than Haiti, but it seems the politicians are greasing the rungs more and more every day.

cardinal43 · 02-27-2011, 12:27 PM

Originally posted by shooz

'Splain this please.

To whom are you refering?

He used the word ignorant. I think he was referring to republicans.

shooz · 02-27-2011, 03:15 PM

Just another conned-sevative drive by, I guess.

gokenin · 02-27-2011, 04:17 PM

Originally posted by cardinal43

He used the word ignorant. I think he was referring to republicans.

Originally posted by shooz

Just another conned-sevative drive by, I guess.

and we wonder why conversations between the parties always fall apart. both sides are so quick to fall back to the typical name calling and they embrace this attitude to show how superior they are to the other.

shooz · 02-27-2011, 04:21 PM

Only on the unresponsive.
Care to comment?

gokenin · 02-27-2011, 05:06 PM

Originally posted by shooz

Only on the unresponsive.
Care to comment?

comment on what? or is this directed towards someone else?

shooz · 02-27-2011, 05:39 PM

Thank you for your response.

Do feel that renters should be banned from voting?

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02-26-2011, 11:09 AM	#16
redrockcoulee Pentaxian Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Medicine Hat Posts: 2,306	Originally posted by gokenin I hate to burst the idiots bubble but how many people in America actually own the property outright? I mean debt free because even though you may "own" a house and pay mortgage payments you don't actually own it till the loan is payed off. I wonder if this guy has a mortgage on his house if he does then as far as I am concerned he falls into the rent to own category and shouldn't be allowed to vote either. Actually having a loan or mortgage against your property does not mean you are not the property owner. Your name is on the property deed, the tax roles and it is you and not the bank that gets the ticket for failure to keep down the weeds or shovel the snow. And there is no way of actually being able to determine if the property owner owes money on a piece of property if there is no lien or chattel registered against it which if you used a private loan or a line of credit may be the case. Would someone owning an apartment building get to vote once for each suite? If I only rent to own then would the 'owner' of my house please come and do the repairs

02-26-2011, 11:19 AM	#17
larryinlc Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Wisconsin USA Posts: 993	I think every renter in the country would be happy to give up their right to vote provided the landlord gives up his/her right to collect rent.

02-26-2011, 02:32 PM	#18
Wheatfield Moderator Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: The wheatfields of Canada Posts: 15,981	Originally posted by larryinlc I think every renter in the country would be happy to give up their right to vote provided the landlord gives up his/her right to collect rent. I suppose and their right to pay taxes. Jim, I was giving some credit that your election process is perhaps one rung above that of Haiti. I'll try to not make the same mistake again.

02-26-2011, 02:55 PM	#19
Green_Manelishi Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: On the edge ... Posts: 179	Originally posted by Ratmagiclady Well, the more the GOP gets their way, the more they need to stack the deck against regular people to seem 'populist.' If everyone in this country voted, they'd have become a dim memory twenty years ago. Then it's a good thing the ignorant beast remains at home, sitting on the couch watching American Idol.

02-26-2011, 08:22 PM	#20
Ratmagiclady Veteran Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: GA Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 13,563	Originally posted by Green_Manelishi Then it's a good thing the ignorant beast remains at home, sitting on the couch watching American Idol. See? Look at this paragon of the ideals of freedom, democracy, hard work and opportunity... Oh, wait, you mean feudalism, oppression, greed, usury, and entitled aristocracy. Bread and circuses! Or, well, Wonderbread and circuses. Wait, no, Bread's for Commies.

02-26-2011, 09:47 PM	#21
shooz Site Supporter Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Detroit Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 3,491	Originally posted by Green_Manelishi ignorant beast 'Splain this please. To whom are you refering?

02-26-2011, 10:21 PM	#22
BillM Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Ferguson, Mo. Photos: Gallery Posts: 1,348	We dealt with this here in St.Louis county some years ago.Folks called themselves "Freeholders".If I remember right,actually cleared committee and set to go to county council for vote.Were so many legal challenges successful at every level agaisnt that it was thought that it slithered back underneath to what ever rock it came from and died.Is this the best the 'pubs' can do to get our economy moving again. Just more smoke.By the By,believe these freeholdin folks owe native american landlords some back rent.

02-27-2011, 10:24 AM	#23
Tom S. Veteran Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: S.E. Michigan Photos: Albums Posts: 4,317	Originally posted by GeneV I suppose next they will want to bring back slavery and the 4/5ths rule. Oh, we still have slavery - at least we did until I retired.

02-27-2011, 12:01 PM	#24
Parallax Senior Moderator Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: South Dakota Photos: Gallery Posts: 19,332	Originally posted by Wheatfield Jim, I was giving some credit that your election process is perhaps one rung above that of Haiti. I'll try to not make the same mistake again. I appreciate the effort, Bill. I think we are still a bit farther up the ladder than Haiti, but it seems the politicians are greasing the rungs more and more every day.

02-27-2011, 12:27 PM	#25
cardinal43 Veteran Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Virginia Photos: Gallery Posts: 2,412	Originally posted by shooz 'Splain this please. To whom are you refering? He used the word ignorant. I think he was referring to republicans.

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02-27-2011, 03:15 PM	#26
shooz Site Supporter Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Detroit Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 3,491	Just another conned-sevative drive by, I guess.

02-27-2011, 04:17 PM	#27
gokenin Veteran Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: lowell,ma Posts: 1,899	Originally posted by cardinal43 He used the word ignorant. I think he was referring to republicans. Originally posted by shooz Just another conned-sevative drive by, I guess. and we wonder why conversations between the parties always fall apart. both sides are so quick to fall back to the typical name calling and they embrace this attitude to show how superior they are to the other.

02-27-2011, 04:21 PM	#28
shooz Site Supporter Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Detroit Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 3,491	Only on the unresponsive. Care to comment?

02-27-2011, 05:06 PM	#29
gokenin Veteran Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: lowell,ma Posts: 1,899	Originally posted by shooz Only on the unresponsive. Care to comment? comment on what? or is this directed towards someone else?

02-27-2011, 05:39 PM	#30
shooz Site Supporter Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Detroit Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 3,491	Thank you for your response. Do feel that renters should be banned from voting?