Can we help Pentax?

006 · 03-12-2011, 06:03 PM

I'm not sure, but maybe that could be good idea to create an account to put some donations directly for Pentax if needed.. sensor stain in k-5, earthquake.. difficult times for the company.. I could donate if I'd knew this could help.

RioRico · 03-12-2011, 06:22 PM

Whatever country you are in, go to the local Pentax Imaging website, and order stuff from them. Cameras, lenses, everything. The more you buy, the better for PenHoya.

**rparmar** · 03-12-2011, 06:50 PM

Or donate to someone who needs the money more. At this time in particular it's simply not worth joking about this.

reeftool · 03-12-2011, 09:29 PM

Originally posted by RioRico

Whatever country you are in, go to the local Pentax Imaging website, and order stuff from them. Cameras, lenses, everything. The more you buy, the better for PenHoya.

Yep. Most of their manufacturing facilities are no longer in Japan. Any damage would be to to offices, not plants. I'm sure they are well insured. Buy a lens. Send a donation to the Red Cross.

Adam · 03-12-2011, 09:59 PM

Red corss is probably a better idea- see this article: Destructive Japan Earthquake - history devastates Japan · Posted on 03-11-11 Pentax-Related News - PentaxForums.com

006 · 03-13-2011, 05:00 AM

great idea. I LOVE it! i'm gonna buy some stuff from Pentax next week!

Mike Cash · 03-13-2011, 05:22 AM

The folks at Pentax probably had to put some stuff back on shelves in their offices.

In the areas which got hit by the quake/tsunami the hardest it is going to take probably a few years just to haul away the debris and muck. Some places are so totally devastated that it will necessitate a hell of a lot of work for land surveying crews just to figure out again where all the parcels of real estate are....assuming that the records survived, that is. Then they can spend years and untold tons of cash trying to rebuild entire areas from scratch....roads, water mains, sewer systems, electrical lines, public facilities, etc.

Of course, they're going to be some little while trying to identify the bodies of the dead recovered so far as well as trying to recover those buried in rubble or the muck and debris of the tsunami. Then they'll have to arrange for funerals for the ones they found and try to wrap their heads around the notion that some number as yet known only to God will never be found, having been washed out to sea.

And they'll be doing that with inadequate food, water, clothing, or shelter for a little while to come. But they won't have much time to concern themselves with those more immediate problems as their minds will be busy with thoughts of lost lives, lost loved ones, lost communities, lost homes, and lost livelihoods. But I'm sure they'll be comforted to know that someone is such a fan of his camera that he wants to send some money to help Pentax pick some stuff up off the floor and put it back on the shelves again.

Trivializing or joking about disasters is in poor taste at least until the bodies are buried, don't you think?

uccemebug · 03-13-2011, 06:22 AM

Originally posted by Mike Cash

The folks at Pentax probably had to put some stuff back on shelves in their offices.

Agreed. I think that donating to the Red Cross would be a lot more effective use of money. The suffering in coastal Japan is a lot more real than any imagined difficulty for Hoya.

One thing is absolutely sure, this is no time to go to the site on your own to try to "help". The Canadian gov't issued a warning suspend all non-essential travel to the greater region, and to stay out of Fukushima period. And now the French have apparently gone further:

"France recommended its citizens leave the Tokyo region, citing the risk of further earthquakes and uncertainty about the nuclear plants."

Tom S. · 03-13-2011, 08:28 AM

Originally posted by Mike Cash

The folks at Pentax probably had to put some stuff back on shelves in their offices.

In the areas which got hit by the quake/tsunami the hardest it is going to take probably a few years just to haul away the debris and muck. Some places are so totally devastated that it will necessitate a hell of a lot of work for land surveying crews just to figure out again where all the parcels of real estate are....assuming that the records survived, that is. Then they can spend years and untold tons of cash trying to rebuild entire areas from scratch....roads, water mains, sewer systems, electrical lines, public facilities, etc.

Of course, they're going to be some little while trying to identify the bodies of the dead recovered so far as well as trying to recover those buried in rubble or the muck and debris of the tsunami. Then they'll have to arrange for funerals for the ones they found and try to wrap their heads around the notion that some number as yet known only to God will never be found, having been washed out to sea.

And they'll be doing that with inadequate food, water, clothing, or shelter for a little while to come. But they won't have much time to concern themselves with those more immediate problems as their minds will be busy with thoughts of lost lives, lost loved ones, lost communities, lost homes, and lost livelihoods. But I'm sure they'll be comforted to know that someone is such a fan of his camera that he wants to send some money to help Pentax pick some stuff up off the floor and put it back on the shelves again.

Trivializing or joking about disasters is in poor taste at least until the bodies are buried, don't you think?

Mike, I hope you are right about the Pentax facilities, but I heard on the news yesterday that 4 Sony factories were damaged. The news didn't say how extensive, or what these factories produced, but if one was the factory that produces the sensors for the K-5, some people could be waiting a long time for replacements. I'm glad I got mine replaced when I did!

**Fontan** · 03-13-2011, 02:18 PM

Originally posted by Tom S.

Mike, I hope you are right about the Pentax facilities, but I heard on the news yesterday that 4 Sony factories were damaged. The news didn't say how extensive, or what these factories produced, but if one was the factory that produces the sensors for the K-5, some people could be waiting a long time for replacements. I'm glad I got mine replaced when I did!

Eh, my English is not so good, but this is not trivializing?

uccemebug · 03-13-2011, 03:53 PM

Here's a report from a nuclear physicist specializing in nuclear power who's writing to clear up the (very?) bad reporting going on in the media (surprise).

Originally posted by Fontan

Eh, my English is not so good, but this is not trivializing?

Yes. At a time with a mounting death toll, rolling blackouts, a million homes without heat or water (under snowfall), hundreds of thousands homeless .. no one should be prioritizing sensors for consumer cameras.

RioRico · 03-13-2011, 08:54 PM

Let me be clear: I do not try to trivialize or joke here, although humor is a natural way to handle disastrous situations. The question was asked: Can we help Pentax? I didn't deride that as a trivial question; I answered with all seriousness. One does not assist a for-profit corporation with acts of charity, but by buying that firm's products / services, putting cash into their pockets. Buying directly from Pentax websites minimizes the amount siphoned-off by intermediaries. If anyone here has a better method to "help Pentax" now, please enlighten us.

Obviously, more than help for Pentax is needed. Japan and other places struck by the tsunami need help; find out what is needed there, and act appropriately. Trivialization? Gloating over damage to competitors is trivial, or worse; concern over our prospects for upgrading gear, is trivial; squabbling over who is the most righteous, is trivial. At least we're not arguing over conspiracy theories.

Mike Cash · 03-13-2011, 09:23 PM

Actually, I didn't have your reply in mind at all when I wrote my earlier post. Your answer fit the question well enough. It was the whole notion of someone being willing to contribute in some way just so long as he knew it would go to help a corporation recover from trivial damage, with the implied subtext of not being willing to provide aid if it would go toward those who are suffering and in genuine need that struck me as asinine, shallow, and beneath contempt.

uccemebug · 03-13-2011, 09:35 PM

I should probably refrain from posting anything. My wife and I were part of a tight-knit community in Tokyo for five years and have many friends whose lives have been disrupted by this despite being 300km away. This comes as I have only begun to re-acclimatize to my homeland, and I feel pretty useless here.

And now a volcano's erupted in southern Kyushu where my wife's family is from. Six weeks ago the thing spewed enough ash to kill everything in her dad's garden: now it's had its biggest eruption in 50+ years.

mano · 03-14-2011, 01:25 AM

Originally posted by uccemebug

Here's a report from a nuclear physicist specializing in nuclear power who's writing to clear up the (very?) bad reporting going on in the media (surprise).

Surprise? Well, I only skimmed the article and found several points which seemed doubtful to me. Partly because thinks happening in the hours after the accident did not agree with the "specialists" account.

Also: Read the commentary further down the page where the poster admits that his nuclear physicist is actually an engineer. So the credibility of this source is not much better than the sensationalism of the media.

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RioRico Veteran Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Limbo, California Posts: 11,263	Whatever country you are in, go to the local Pentax Imaging website, and order stuff from them. Cameras, lenses, everything. The more you buy, the better for PenHoya.

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rparmar Site Supporter Join Date: Jan 2008 Photos: Gallery Posts: 8,817	Or donate to someone who needs the money more. At this time in particular it's simply not worth joking about this.

03-12-2011, 09:29 PM	#4
reeftool Pentaxian Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Upstate New York Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 9,553	Originally posted by RioRico Whatever country you are in, go to the local Pentax Imaging website, and order stuff from them. Cameras, lenses, everything. The more you buy, the better for PenHoya. Yep. Most of their manufacturing facilities are no longer in Japan. Any damage would be to to offices, not plants. I'm sure they are well insured. Buy a lens. Send a donation to the Red Cross.

03-13-2011, 05:00 AM	#6
006 Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 38 Original Poster	great idea. I LOVE it! i'm gonna buy some stuff from Pentax next week!

03-13-2011, 05:22 AM	#7
Mike Cash Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Japan Photos: Gallery Posts: 6,950	The folks at Pentax probably had to put some stuff back on shelves in their offices. In the areas which got hit by the quake/tsunami the hardest it is going to take probably a few years just to haul away the debris and muck. Some places are so totally devastated that it will necessitate a hell of a lot of work for land surveying crews just to figure out again where all the parcels of real estate are....assuming that the records survived, that is. Then they can spend years and untold tons of cash trying to rebuild entire areas from scratch....roads, water mains, sewer systems, electrical lines, public facilities, etc. Of course, they're going to be some little while trying to identify the bodies of the dead recovered so far as well as trying to recover those buried in rubble or the muck and debris of the tsunami. Then they'll have to arrange for funerals for the ones they found and try to wrap their heads around the notion that some number as yet known only to God will never be found, having been washed out to sea. And they'll be doing that with inadequate food, water, clothing, or shelter for a little while to come. But they won't have much time to concern themselves with those more immediate problems as their minds will be busy with thoughts of lost lives, lost loved ones, lost communities, lost homes, and lost livelihoods. But I'm sure they'll be comforted to know that someone is such a fan of his camera that he wants to send some money to help Pentax pick some stuff up off the floor and put it back on the shelves again. Trivializing or joking about disasters is in poor taste at least until the bodies are buried, don't you think?

03-13-2011, 06:22 AM	#8
uccemebug Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Tokyo Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 962	Originally posted by Mike Cash The folks at Pentax probably had to put some stuff back on shelves in their offices. Agreed. I think that donating to the Red Cross would be a lot more effective use of money. The suffering in coastal Japan is a lot more real than any imagined difficulty for Hoya. One thing is absolutely sure, this is no time to go to the site on your own to try to "help". The Canadian gov't issued a warning suspend all non-essential travel to the greater region, and to stay out of Fukushima period. And now the French have apparently gone further: "France recommended its citizens leave the Tokyo region, citing the risk of further earthquakes and uncertainty about the nuclear plants."

03-13-2011, 08:28 AM	#9
Tom S. Veteran Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: S.E. Michigan Photos: Albums Posts: 4,317	Originally posted by Mike Cash The folks at Pentax probably had to put some stuff back on shelves in their offices. In the areas which got hit by the quake/tsunami the hardest it is going to take probably a few years just to haul away the debris and muck. Some places are so totally devastated that it will necessitate a hell of a lot of work for land surveying crews just to figure out again where all the parcels of real estate are....assuming that the records survived, that is. Then they can spend years and untold tons of cash trying to rebuild entire areas from scratch....roads, water mains, sewer systems, electrical lines, public facilities, etc. Of course, they're going to be some little while trying to identify the bodies of the dead recovered so far as well as trying to recover those buried in rubble or the muck and debris of the tsunami. Then they'll have to arrange for funerals for the ones they found and try to wrap their heads around the notion that some number as yet known only to God will never be found, having been washed out to sea. And they'll be doing that with inadequate food, water, clothing, or shelter for a little while to come. But they won't have much time to concern themselves with those more immediate problems as their minds will be busy with thoughts of lost lives, lost loved ones, lost communities, lost homes, and lost livelihoods. But I'm sure they'll be comforted to know that someone is such a fan of his camera that he wants to send some money to help Pentax pick some stuff up off the floor and put it back on the shelves again. Trivializing or joking about disasters is in poor taste at least until the bodies are buried, don't you think? Mike, I hope you are right about the Pentax facilities, but I heard on the news yesterday that 4 Sony factories were damaged. The news didn't say how extensive, or what these factories produced, but if one was the factory that produces the sensors for the K-5, some people could be waiting a long time for replacements. I'm glad I got mine replaced when I did!

03-13-2011, 02:18 PM	#10
Fontan Site Supporter Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: 5th floor Posts: 1,610	Originally posted by Tom S. Mike, I hope you are right about the Pentax facilities, but I heard on the news yesterday that 4 Sony factories were damaged. The news didn't say how extensive, or what these factories produced, but if one was the factory that produces the sensors for the K-5, some people could be waiting a long time for replacements. I'm glad I got mine replaced when I did! Eh, my English is not so good, but this is not trivializing?

03-13-2011, 03:53 PM	#11
uccemebug Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Tokyo Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 962	Here's a report from a nuclear physicist specializing in nuclear power who's writing to clear up the (very?) bad reporting going on in the media (surprise). Originally posted by Fontan Eh, my English is not so good, but this is not trivializing? Yes. At a time with a mounting death toll, rolling blackouts, a million homes without heat or water (under snowfall), hundreds of thousands homeless .. no one should be prioritizing sensors for consumer cameras.

03-13-2011, 08:54 PM	#12
RioRico Veteran Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Limbo, California Posts: 11,263	Let me be clear: I do not try to trivialize or joke here, although humor is a natural way to handle disastrous situations. The question was asked: Can we help Pentax? I didn't deride that as a trivial question; I answered with all seriousness. One does not assist a for-profit corporation with acts of charity, but by buying that firm's products / services, putting cash into their pockets. Buying directly from Pentax websites minimizes the amount siphoned-off by intermediaries. If anyone here has a better method to "help Pentax" now, please enlighten us. Obviously, more than help for Pentax is needed. Japan and other places struck by the tsunami need help; find out what is needed there, and act appropriately. Trivialization? Gloating over damage to competitors is trivial, or worse; concern over our prospects for upgrading gear, is trivial; squabbling over who is the most righteous, is trivial. At least we're not arguing over conspiracy theories.

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Mike Cash Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Japan Photos: Gallery Posts: 6,950	Actually, I didn't have your reply in mind at all when I wrote my earlier post. Your answer fit the question well enough. It was the whole notion of someone being willing to contribute in some way just so long as he knew it would go to help a corporation recover from trivial damage, with the implied subtext of not being willing to provide aid if it would go toward those who are suffering and in genuine need that struck me as asinine, shallow, and beneath contempt.

03-13-2011, 09:35 PM	#14
uccemebug Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Tokyo Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 962	I should probably refrain from posting anything. My wife and I were part of a tight-knit community in Tokyo for five years and have many friends whose lives have been disrupted by this despite being 300km away. This comes as I have only begun to re-acclimatize to my homeland, and I feel pretty useless here. And now a volcano's erupted in southern Kyushu where my wife's family is from. Six weeks ago the thing spewed enough ash to kill everything in her dad's garden: now it's had its biggest eruption in 50+ years.

03-14-2011, 01:25 AM	#15
mano Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Posts: 151	Originally posted by uccemebug Here's a report from a nuclear physicist specializing in nuclear power who's writing to clear up the (very?) bad reporting going on in the media (surprise). Surprise? Well, I only skimmed the article and found several points which seemed doubtful to me. Partly because thinks happening in the hours after the accident did not agree with the "specialists" account. Also: Read the commentary further down the page where the poster admits that his nuclear physicist is actually an engineer. So the credibility of this source is not much better than the sensationalism of the media.