[JohnInIndy]

But isn't it.

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[GeneV]

If you say it enough times, people will think its true.

Nothing like adding a little racial fear to the Tea Party economic plan.

[ihasa]

Quite ironic given that China is investing incredibly heavily in universal healthcare. And turning their back on the principles that made them great... what principles? Colonialism? Exploitation? Slavery?

[shooz]

What's actually true, is that most of that owed debt is from wallstreet and foreign occupations.
So many corporations suckling at the tax payers expense.
So many conservatives BLIND to that fact, makes wonder if they are suckling too.

[GeneV]

Quite ironic given that China is investing incredibly heavily in universal healthcare. And turning their back on the principles that made them great... what principles? Colonialism? Exploitation? Slavery?

Interesting. This is still the PRC. Wasn't one of their principles Socialism?

[stevewig]

But isn't it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OTSQozWP-rM

Amazing to me how many people love to watch items that are clearly propaganda statements, that contain no provocative or thoughtful content and then do what they were intended to do (like robots) - pass them on for everyone else to digest, enjoy and "learn" from!

[Ratmagiclady]

So truly nostalgic for newsreels from the Weimar Republic.

[ihasa]

Interesting. This is still the PRC. Wasn't one of their principles Socialism?

That's right... to clarify, colonialism and slavery are very much *our* founding principles

Of course the British Empire and the USA have gone belly up since we abandoned that stuff! Bring back the empire, I say!

[Coeurdechene]

Citizens against government waste: why don't they start by cutting military expenses? oh, sorry i forgot the inminent chinese invasion...
Or why not try to build a safety net (social expenses) so that not so many people fall out and end in the prison system?
There is something that it's said very often in Europe universities when it comes to studying USA organization "They do have Social security, it's called prison". It's expenses in the penitentiary system would be enough to ensure social programs that would prevent a lot of people from ending in jail...but then we're just europeans i'm sure we're wrong.

[Ratmagiclady]

Citizens against government waste: why don't they start by cutting military expenses? oh, sorry i forgot the inminent chinese invasion...
Or why not try to build a safety net (social expenses) so that not so many people fall out and end in the prison system?
There is something that it's said very often in Europe universities when it comes to studying USA organization "They do have Social security, it's called prison". It's expenses in the penitentiary system would be enough to ensure social programs that would prevent a lot of people from ending in jail...but then we're just europeans i'm sure we're wrong.

Well, you have to understand that in America, it's traditional for the GOP to spend 'off budget' on such things, then when Democrats get elected, these trillions 'suddenly appear' *in* the budget, and all the expense means... Trying to make up the trillions by cutting art, education, services for the poor, police and fire services for the middle class to protect them from themselves and each other... News and science the conservatives don't like, *any* semblance of government oversight or accountability over the same rich people in the first place... etc etc.


While of course the big corporations bleeding the nation and our towns dry over it whine, 'But without more trillions we "Can't" contribute anything... But if you give us more, we'll consider not 'having' to outsource more jobs....


Fact is, they're bullies who feel entitled, protecting *everything* onto anyone they think they can cut from the herd, *still* feeling entitled to poor kids' lunch money, then whining 'Unfair!' 'Rules!' if anyone fights back or says 'You're doing wrong.'


Frankly, *they're* the ones who are always pushing 'Terror.' I don't happen to think DDOS attacks particularly help anything, really, especially since the same people can do it to anyone and claim it was 'some 'terrorist,'' but when it comes down to it, they're the bullies who do the terrorizing and taking and justifying it all by saying, 'You'd do it too, or someone else,'

They're like the sharks in New England old wives' tales, though, a good bop inna nose and they're off. And running to find some bigger bully or authority to validate them.

I have to say that while I wouldn't put it past them, most old wives in New England may have less experience with Jacques Cousteau than bopping people you might call 'sharks' inna nose, but in *that,* forget about it. Most of them graduated from 'bop inna nose' to 'cracking crowns' if not 'busting heads' by the time some Big Finance retirement plan was even suggesting goggles and a snorkel, never mind chainmail.

Which is a long way around saying most of these Righties ain't learned a thing since middle school, and their failure to grasp basic science or human interaction is just the start of what that means.

[jeffkrol]

See John's problem is the Chinese are recognition that the "economic gap" is unhealthy and "environmental rape" is not good for their future...............
IF they can and actually want to end it, we will see but at least the government acknowledges that it's a BAD THING for their society.

[Ratmagiclady]

See John's problem is the Chinese are recognition that the "economic gap" is unhealthy and "environmental rape" is not good for their future...............
IF they can and actually want to end it, we will see but at least the government acknowledges that it's a BAD THING for their society.

John's problem is that binary moralistic thinking doesn't fix a blessed thing. All it is is saying, 'They're worse, I must be good, therefore I should do more of what's bad, but less bad than them cause it's better, and I will fight to pound down anyone who says I am not 'better, which is best, so it must be *good,* even if it's *not,* and someone else must be some kind of damned moral relativist for saying otherwise!'


In simpler terms, when you point a finger, where do three others point.

(It's also why I don't call people some kind of 'existential evil' when 'You got *backwards*' will cover it. People 'get backwards' sometimes. Think 'Ultimate good' justifies the *inexcuseable,* and, moreover, the *unaccountably-stupid.* This is part of how that happens. It's not 'bad people.' It's those *terrified* to be called that, in a way. Terrified to be *wrong.* Terrified of... Well, me. Gotcher nose. )