[jeffkrol]

I had started a thread on feeling sorry for FLA a long while ago.. Seems my fears were correct............ Man what the heck happened to common sense.........
Floridians Are Maybe Starting To Understand Their Governor Is A Grifter

cott and Florida Republicans are currently trying to enact a sweeping Medicaid reform bill that would give HMOs and other private health care companies unprecedented control over the government health care program for the poor. Among the companies that stand to benefit from the bill is Solantic, a chain of urgent-care clinics aimed at providing emergency services to walk-in customers.

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Florida Democrats and independent legal experts say this handover hardly absolves Scott of a major conflict of interest. As part of a federally approved pilot program that began in 2005, certain Medicaid patients in Florida were allowed to start using their Medicaid dollars at private clinics like Solantic. The Medicaid bill that Scott is now pushing would expand the pilot privatization program to the entire state of Florida, offering Solantic a huge new business opportunity.

"This is a conflict of interest that raises a serious ethical issue," says Marc Rodwin, a medical ethics professor at Suffolk University Law School in Boston. "The public should be thinking and worrying about this."

In addition, he signed an executive order that would force "many state employees and job applicants submit to mandatory drug tests." Alongside that mandate, Scott's been seeking legislation that would require the same of welfare recipients. Naturally, Solantic "conducts drug-testing for employers and employees alike and stands to profit from this proposal."

Scott also apparently does not use email -- or he claims to not use it, anyway. Serial fraudsters know it's best not to leave much of a paper trail, electronic or otherwise.

Maybe the revolution will start there.. How's the recall laws????

[JohnInIndy]

In addition, he signed an executive order that would force "many state employees and job applicants submit to mandatory drug tests." Alongside that mandate, Scott's been seeking legislation that would require the same of welfare recipients. Naturally, Solantic "conducts drug-testing for employers and employees alike and stands to profit from this proposal."

What's so bad about mandatory drug testing for state workers? What's so bad about mandatory drug testing for people that are getting state/federal tax dollars through welfare? Or Medicare/Medicaid? It SHOULD be mandatory. And if you're on welfare and test positive you're done.

[Ratmagiclady]

What's so bad about mandatory drug testing for state workers? What's so bad about mandatory drug testing for people that are getting state/federal tax dollars through welfare? Or Medicare/Medicaid? It SHOULD be mandatory. And if you're on welfare and test positive you're done.

Fourth Amendment to the United States Constitution - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

[JohnInIndy]

Fourth Amendment to the United States Constitution - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

It's not search and seizure. If it was/is a violation of the Fourth Amendment don't you think some lawyer would have sued with the first mandatory drug test

The Supreme Court has noted repeatedly that the drawing of blood constitutes only a minimally intrusive search. Skinner, 489 U.S. at 625 (blood tests do not 'infringe significant privacy interests'); Winston v. Lee, 470 U.S. 753, 62 ('85) (not 'an unduly extensive imposition'); Schmerber, 384 U.S. at 771 ('commonplace'); Breithaupt v. Abram, 352 U.S. 432, 36 ('57) ('routine' and 'would not be considered offensive by even the most delicate').

[Ratmagiclady]

It's not search and seizure. If it was/is a violation of the Fourth Amendment don't you think some lawyer would have sued with the first mandatory drug test

They *did.* You need probable cause to believe a crime's been committed, or a compelling public safety interest to violate those rights. 'Corporate persons' of course, have the 'right' to violate these under certain circumstances, but this *still* isn't a police state, dude.


You know, due process of law before the state violates people just cause you don't *like* them.

I mean, seriously. You call yourself an American? *spit.*

[redrockcoulee]

Why just drug testing of public servants and people who collect government funds (other than corporations) Drugs are not the only problem in society. Why not also check their homes for pornography, their bank accounts and their computers. We should feel better when a government worker can have their home and vehicle searched at any time and actually be searched at least once per year. Best yet make it possible for concerned citizens to constantly be able to check out all these people's private lives.

[jeffkrol]

What's so bad about mandatory drug testing for state workers? What's so bad about mandatory drug testing for people that are getting state/federal tax dollars through welfare? Or Medicare/Medicaid? It SHOULD be mandatory. And if you're on welfare and test positive you're done.

How about funneling all the "business" to your wifes company.....
How about this......

The governor vetoed the bi-partisan bill that would establish controls over "pill mills" and hold doctors accountable for selling thousands of pills to one person in a month by saying it was too intrusive into peoples lives.

Florida's Governor Problem (Pills and Drug Testing) - Auburn Journal
Hypocrite.......

Recently, he said he wants all state employees to take drug tests every month. Guess who owns one of the largest drug testing companies in Florida? Solantic was a company Scott had a majority stake in until he was elected. He then signed his stake over to his wife. Just look up "Rick Scott Drug Testing" and you will see multiple investigations into the conflict of interest he has created. Rick Scott was also CEO of a company a few years back that was so corrupt, they paid the highest penalty ever by a company ($1.7 BILLION) because of massive Medicare Fraud. At his helm, his company fraudulently stole hundreds of millions of dollars from YOU the tax payer in the largest (at least known about) fraud in our country's history. Scott left in disgrace, was paid $300 million in severance and then was elected governor of Florida a few years later.

When you hear about local kids getting hooked on OxyContin, there is an 85% chance it came from that state. People regularly caravan out here from Florida with thousands of pills and sell them at a huge markup. I've never been to Florida, but it is unfortunate that their governor's actions are affecting us as much as they are.

I hate to get all conspiracy theory on you, but if you look at the evidence, it is plain as day to see Florida has a pill problem and a governor problem. Which one is worse?

Let's hear it John......

[JohnInIndy]

They *did.* You need probable cause to believe a crime's been committed, or a compelling public safety interest to violate those rights. 'Corporate persons' of course, have the 'right' to violate these under certain circumstances, but this *still* isn't a police state, dude.


You know, due process of law before the state violates people just cause you don't *like* them.

I mean, seriously. You call yourself an American? *spit.*

1. Can my employer legally require me to take a drug test?

Yes. Federal, state and private employees are all subject to drug testing.
Many federal employees, such as those who handle classified information, those who work in national security, law enforcement officers, employees with duties to protect property, life, health and safety, and even the President are subject to drug testing . The Supreme Court has ruled that while drug testing does infringe on an employee's privacy, it can be necessary in order to protect the health and safety of others .
Most state laws are similar to federal laws and usually have upheld the legality of drug testing of state employees. Certain states, such as California, have said that while it is legal to give drug tests to any incoming employees, there must be cause to test current employees.
Many private employers require that their employees undergo drug testing. State and local law vary in the way that they protect private employees' privacy, but private employers may often test employees for health and safety reasons, as well as to increase productivity at the workplace, and to prevent illegal activities in the work place that derive from drug-related activity .

BTW DOT requires drug testing

The DOT tests for marijuana, cocaine, opiates, phencyclidine and amphetamines. Testing for alcohol is somewhat more complicated because alcohol remains in the blood stream for only a few hours.

[redrockcoulee]

John


You know that the government can require any employee to have a pilots licence as well (providing they are required to fly a plane) You use the justification for certain occupations or duties to justify an unwarrented and unnecessary test on other people.

I have secret clearance (although I do not need it in my present position) and have a federal driver's licence for driving federal vehicles and I do not get tested because my employer is more interested in me working than being harrassed. When your health or safety is dependent on a filing clerk, or that clerk's payroll clerk or supervisor then what you stated would have some baring. You did fail to mention that your supreme court has declared capital punishment legal so I am surprised that you do not advocate that for all government workers as well, just about as relavant.

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