Bristol Palin faces backlash over her $262,000 paycheck for work on teen pregnancy aw

reeftool · 04-07-2011, 07:33 AM

Nothing wrong with making a living. There's also nothing wrong with taking advantage of celebrity status. The same critics would be whining just as loud if she was collecting welfare instead. Five years from now, nobody will remember her so I hope she saved some.

GeneV · 04-07-2011, 07:51 AM

Originally posted by reeftool

Nothing wrong with making a living. There's also nothing wrong with taking advantage of celebrity status. The same critics would be whining just as loud if she was collecting welfare instead. Five years from now, nobody will remember her so I hope she saved some.

When it comes from charitable contributions, it is a bit like welfare.

Ratmagiclady · 04-07-2011, 08:08 AM

So, she made a quarter mil to advertise a *counterproductive* abstinence-only 'education' agenda? (She's a walking example of how it doesn't work: she couldn't have had that stuff laid on any thicker if she was raised by nuns in a ruler factory.)

Nice job if you can get it, (And somehow stand yourself,) I suppose.

Hope no one gets the idea that kind of gig 'trickles down.'

reeftool · 04-07-2011, 08:52 AM

Originally posted by GeneV

When it comes from charitable contributions, it is a bit like welfare.

Charitable contributions are voluntary while welfare is tax dollars. The girl is in a no win situation with critics. I wish her the best. As long as her mother is in the political spotlight, the media is going to hound her every move.

GeneV · 04-07-2011, 09:43 AM

Originally posted by reeftool

Charitable contributions are voluntary while welfare is tax dollars. The girl is in a no win situation with critics. I wish her the best. As long as her mother is in the political spotlight, the media is going to hound her every move.

Charity includes tax dollars as well in the form of deductions for the contributors. Most contributors don't give money for the purpose of paying nice fees to celebrities.

Only with her mother in the spotlight does anyone ever dream of paying her this kind of money, so it is hard for me to feel sorry for her getting this attention.

cardinal43 · 04-07-2011, 05:44 PM

Originally posted by JohnInIndy

I'd like to think that I wouldn't.

Yeah, right. A leopard can't change his spots.

Wheatfield · 04-07-2011, 07:10 PM

Originally posted by JohnInIndy

upstanding conservatives

Wow, there's an oxymoron if I've ever seen one.

Wheatfield · 04-07-2011, 07:13 PM

Originally posted by GeneV

Charity includes tax dollars as well in the form of deductions for the contributors.

<OT>
In Canada, if you give money to a charity, you get to deduct 17 cents of every dollar you give from your income tax.
If you give money to a political party (the ultimate charity), you get a 100% deduction from your income tax.

Personally, I think they have it backwards.

Does it work similarly in the USA?
</OT>

dgaies · 04-07-2011, 07:16 PM

Originally posted by Wheatfield

<OT>
In Canada, if you give money to a charity, you get to deduct 17 cents of every dollar you give from your income tax.
If you give money to a political party (the ultimate charity), you get a 100% deduction from your income tax.

Personally, I think they have it backwards.

Does it work similarly in the USA?
</OT>

As far as I know, contributions to political parties are not tax deductible... not that I would know personally as I wouldn't personally give a cent to any politician or political party.

**BigDave** · 04-07-2011, 07:55 PM

Originally posted by JohnInIndy

For all we know Obama's girls could turn out to be upstanding conservatives unlike their dad.

We can only hope

GeneV · 04-08-2011, 05:52 AM

Originally posted by Wheatfield

<OT>
In Canada, if you give money to a charity, you get to deduct 17 cents of every dollar you give from your income tax.
If you give money to a political party (the ultimate charity), you get a 100% deduction from your income tax.

Personally, I think they have it backwards.

Does it work similarly in the USA?
</OT>

Here, charitable contributions are basically 100% deductible. Political contributions are 0% deductible. Maybe this is one place where we get it closer to right.

Again, it is somewhat appalling to see the Palin family take tax-deducted money and gobble it up. There is absolutely no reason for Bristol Palin to be an example for the harm that might come from being an unwed mother any more than Natalie Portman or some other celebrity mother who will never miss a meal because of being a single mom.

JohnInIndy · 04-08-2011, 06:26 AM

Originally posted by cardinal43

Yeah, right. A leopard can't change his spots.

You can't point to any post where I've said something against any politician's children unless they we're adults in politics.

Quote:

Wow, there's an oxymoron if I've ever seen one.

Wheatfield a better one is "upstanding liberal".

Wheatfield · 04-08-2011, 07:25 AM

Originally posted by JohnInIndy

You can't point to any post where I've said something against any politician's children unless they we're adults in politics.

If Bristol is getting a pile of money being a spokesman against how she lives because of who her mother is , she is in politics.

Regarding upstanding anything, who was it who lied to the world and then wasted a few billion dollars killing a few hundred thousand Iraqis?
(Hint, I think if you fact check, you'll find it was a Republican president).
How upstanding is that?

**Fontan** · 04-08-2011, 09:10 AM

Originally posted by Wheatfield

If Bristol is getting a pile of money being a spokesman against how she lives because of who her mother is , she is in politics.

Regarding upstanding anything, who was it who lied to the world and then wasted a few billion dollars killing a few hundred thousand Iraqis?
(Hint, I think if you fact check, you'll find it was a Republican president).
How upstanding is that?

You mean that deer in the headlight guy who could not speak in full sentences?

séamuis · 04-08-2011, 09:33 AM

Originally posted by Fontan

You mean that deer in the headlight guy who could not speak in full sentences?

but was for beter or worse a graduate of both harvard and yale, and persuaded an entire nation to vote him in as president twice.

04-08-2011, 05:52 AM	#26
GeneV Veteran Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Albuquerque NM Photos: Albums Posts: 9,830	Originally posted by Wheatfield <OT> In Canada, if you give money to a charity, you get to deduct 17 cents of every dollar you give from your income tax. If you give money to a political party (the ultimate charity), you get a 100% deduction from your income tax. Personally, I think they have it backwards. Does it work similarly in the USA? </OT> Here, charitable contributions are basically 100% deductible. Political contributions are 0% deductible. Maybe this is one place where we get it closer to right. Again, it is somewhat appalling to see the Palin family take tax-deducted money and gobble it up. There is absolutely no reason for Bristol Palin to be an example for the harm that might come from being an unwed mother any more than Natalie Portman or some other celebrity mother who will never miss a meal because of being a single mom. Last edited by GeneV; 04-08-2011 at 06:00 AM.

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04-07-2011, 07:33 AM	#16
reeftool Pentaxian Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Upstate New York Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 9,555	Nothing wrong with making a living. There's also nothing wrong with taking advantage of celebrity status. The same critics would be whining just as loud if she was collecting welfare instead. Five years from now, nobody will remember her so I hope she saved some.

04-07-2011, 07:51 AM	#17
GeneV Veteran Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Albuquerque NM Photos: Albums Posts: 9,830	Originally posted by reeftool Nothing wrong with making a living. There's also nothing wrong with taking advantage of celebrity status. The same critics would be whining just as loud if she was collecting welfare instead. Five years from now, nobody will remember her so I hope she saved some. When it comes from charitable contributions, it is a bit like welfare.

04-07-2011, 08:08 AM	#18
Ratmagiclady Veteran Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: GA Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 13,563	So, she made a quarter mil to advertise a counterproductive abstinence-only 'education' agenda? (She's a walking example of how it doesn't work: she couldn't have had that stuff laid on any thicker if she was raised by nuns in a ruler factory.) Nice job if you can get it, (And somehow stand yourself,) I suppose. Hope no one gets the idea that kind of gig 'trickles down.'

04-07-2011, 08:52 AM	#19
reeftool Pentaxian Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Upstate New York Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 9,555	Originally posted by GeneV When it comes from charitable contributions, it is a bit like welfare. Charitable contributions are voluntary while welfare is tax dollars. The girl is in a no win situation with critics. I wish her the best. As long as her mother is in the political spotlight, the media is going to hound her every move.

04-07-2011, 09:43 AM	#20
GeneV Veteran Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Albuquerque NM Photos: Albums Posts: 9,830	Originally posted by reeftool Charitable contributions are voluntary while welfare is tax dollars. The girl is in a no win situation with critics. I wish her the best. As long as her mother is in the political spotlight, the media is going to hound her every move. Charity includes tax dollars as well in the form of deductions for the contributors. Most contributors don't give money for the purpose of paying nice fees to celebrities. Only with her mother in the spotlight does anyone ever dream of paying her this kind of money, so it is hard for me to feel sorry for her getting this attention.

04-07-2011, 05:44 PM	#21
cardinal43 Veteran Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Virginia Photos: Gallery Posts: 2,412	Originally posted by JohnInIndy I'd like to think that I wouldn't. Yeah, right. A leopard can't change his spots.

04-07-2011, 07:10 PM	#22
Wheatfield Moderator Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: The wheatfields of Canada Posts: 15,986	Originally posted by JohnInIndy upstanding conservatives Wow, there's an oxymoron if I've ever seen one.

04-07-2011, 07:13 PM	#23
Wheatfield Moderator Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: The wheatfields of Canada Posts: 15,986	Originally posted by GeneV Charity includes tax dollars as well in the form of deductions for the contributors. <OT> In Canada, if you give money to a charity, you get to deduct 17 cents of every dollar you give from your income tax. If you give money to a political party (the ultimate charity), you get a 100% deduction from your income tax. Personally, I think they have it backwards. Does it work similarly in the USA? </OT>

04-07-2011, 07:16 PM	#24
dgaies Veteran Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Maryland / Washington DC Posts: 3,917	Originally posted by Wheatfield <OT> In Canada, if you give money to a charity, you get to deduct 17 cents of every dollar you give from your income tax. If you give money to a political party (the ultimate charity), you get a 100% deduction from your income tax. Personally, I think they have it backwards. Does it work similarly in the USA? </OT> As far as I know, contributions to political parties are not tax deductible... not that I would know personally as I wouldn't personally give a cent to any politician or political party.

04-07-2011, 07:55 PM	#25
BigDave Site Supporter Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Hudson Valley, NY Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 2,626	Originally posted by JohnInIndy For all we know Obama's girls could turn out to be upstanding conservatives unlike their dad. We can only hope

04-08-2011, 06:26 AM	#27
JohnInIndy Veteran Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Posts: 794	Originally posted by cardinal43 Yeah, right. A leopard can't change his spots. You can't point to any post where I've said something against any politician's children unless they we're adults in politics. Quote: Wow, there's an oxymoron if I've ever seen one. Wheatfield a better one is "upstanding liberal".

04-08-2011, 07:25 AM	#28
Wheatfield Moderator Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: The wheatfields of Canada Posts: 15,986	Originally posted by JohnInIndy You can't point to any post where I've said something against any politician's children unless they we're adults in politics. If Bristol is getting a pile of money being a spokesman against how she lives because of who her mother is , she is in politics. Regarding upstanding anything, who was it who lied to the world and then wasted a few billion dollars killing a few hundred thousand Iraqis? (Hint, I think if you fact check, you'll find it was a Republican president). How upstanding is that?

04-08-2011, 09:10 AM	#29
Fontan Site Supporter Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: 5th floor Posts: 1,610	Originally posted by Wheatfield If Bristol is getting a pile of money being a spokesman against how she lives because of who her mother is , she is in politics. Regarding upstanding anything, who was it who lied to the world and then wasted a few billion dollars killing a few hundred thousand Iraqis? (Hint, I think if you fact check, you'll find it was a Republican president). How upstanding is that? You mean that deer in the headlight guy who could not speak in full sentences?

04-08-2011, 09:33 AM	#30
séamuis Banned Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Savannah, U.S./Baguio City, P.H. Posts: 5,979	Originally posted by Fontan You mean that deer in the headlight guy who could not speak in full sentences? but was for beter or worse a graduate of both harvard and yale, and persuaded an entire nation to vote him in as president *twice*.