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05-17-2011, 03:34 AM   #46
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In a way I suppose we might be lucky that the petroleum reserves are limited so that we don't end up running out of oxygen burning them; burning stuff is a two-component process where the oxygen comes out of the atmosphere.

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QuoteOriginally posted by JohnInIndy Quote
Why is the chart inaccurate?

Here's another chart for you. Remember the areas that says Profit (I know how dirty a word that is to a liberal) is Profit PLUS Costs.
Now this is for the Socialistic State of Mexifornia. They collect seven (7) cents more than the oil company collects for profit plus costs.
seems if we just got rid of the "for profit" part all together we'd also have no problem.........
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Between 2 may and 9 may the cost of crude fell by $0.25
https://www.pentaxforums.com/forums/political-religious-discussion/142169-gas...ml#post1505845

The consumer got 1/25 of that at the pump.

Why can't we have industries focused on service above profit?
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QuoteOriginally posted by newarts Quote
Between 2 may and 9 may the cost of crude fell by $0.25
https://www.pentaxforums.com/forums/political-religious-discussion/142169-gas...ml#post1505845

The consumer got 1/25 of that at the pump.

Why can't we have industries focused on service above profit?
Part of the reason that supermajor integrated oil and gas companies "win" every year regardless of whether the price of oil is high or low is because they have balanced downstream (refinery and retail) and upstream (exploration and production) operations.

When the price of oil is high downstream operations are unprofitable or even loss leaders while the upstream operations rake in the big bucks. When the price of oil is low, exactly the opposite trend occurs where the refineries and gas stations keep the upstream operations afloat through the harsh winter of the commodities cycle.

The other thing is that the price of oil you see being reported is for a futures contract on a barrel of oil 1-2 months down the road while the price at the pump is more reflective of the price paid 2 months ago by the refiner. The retail gas business can also be the kind of thing where you have a game of chicken going on between competitors with the manager of the shell station looking across the street at the exxon station all day to see if they have changed their price and vice-versa. When they see the price of oil go up they don't need to hesitate to raise the price because if the other guy keeps his price low, he will sell all his cheap gas and be less profitable tomorrow when he has to order more gas and raise his price even higher. When prices are falling and the gas is barely profitable they might take their sweet time to drop the prices as they try to squeeze some profit out of their customers before they catch on and roll a mile down the road to the next set of service stations.

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Pump prices around here always rise with the commodity pricing.
They don't seem to wait any time at all.
Takes 'em a while longer to fall with those quotes.

"splain that please.
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QuoteOriginally posted by jeffkrol Quote
seems if we just got rid of the "for profit" part all together we'd also have no problem.........
Why don't you start the trend of getting rid of the "for profit" then. Take nothing more than what you absolutely need to exist. Anything else is luxury and waste. Never take another raise unless prices increase. Get out of the stock market totally. Work for a non profit company. Bet that would be a lot of fun. Not. So you going to be the leader of this new movement?
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Have you gone Galt yet?
Please hurry.

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