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04-30-2011, 10:56 AM   #1
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Deferments Helped Trump Dodge Vietnam




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APRIL 28--Despite Donald Trump’s claim this week that he avoided serving in the Vietnam War solely due to a high draft number, Selective Service records show that the purported presidential aspirant actually received a series of student deferments while in college and then topped those off with a medical deferment after graduation that helped spare him from fighting for his country, The Smoking Gun has learned.

During a TV interview Tuesday morning, Trump--who spent his high school years enrolled at the New York Military Academy--said, “I actually got lucky because I had a very high draft number. I’ll never forget, that was an amazing period of time in my life.”

He went on to recall, “I was going to the Wharton School of Finance, and I was watching as they did the draft numbers and I got a very, very high number and those numbers never got up to.” The word “deferment” was not mentioned by Trump during his chat with the morning show hosts on WNYW, the Fox affiliate in New York City.

However, Selective Service records reveal that Trump, the fortunate son of a multimillionaire real estate baron, took repeated steps to avoid serving in Vietnam.

By the time his number (356) was drawn during the December 1, 1969 draft lottery, Trump had already received four student deferments and a medical deferment, according to military records on file with the National Archives and Records Administration. An extract of Trump’s Selective Classification record, seen here, was provided in response to a TSG records request.

In fact, the December 1969 draft lottery occurred about 18 months after Trump graduated from the University of Pennsylvania, where he studied business at the Wharton School. So, while claiming that he would “never forget” being at Wharton watching the draft numbers being drawn, the 64-year-old Trump seems to have misremembered, as candidates are fond of saying.

Trump obtained his first two Class 2-S student deferments in June 1964 and December 1965, when he was student at Fordham University in the Bronx. He was briefly reclassified as 1-A--or “available for military service”--in late-November 1966, but that classification was switched back to 2-S three weeks later.

Another 2-S deferment is dated January 16, 1968, just months before his graduation from UPenn (to which he transferred following his sophomore year at Fordham).

Following his UPenn graduation, Trump--no longer qualified for a 2-S deferment--was again briefly classified as available for service on July 9. However, three months later, on October 15, his classification was switched to 1-Y, which was given to men deemed qualified for military service “only in time of national emergency.”

The 1-Y classification came a month after Trump underwent an “Armed Forces Physical Examination,” according to Selective Service records, which note the results of the exam as “DISQ.” While the military records do not further detail why Trump was granted the 1-Y deferment, a 1992 biography of the businessman by journalist Wayne Barrett reported that Trump received a medical deferment following the September 17, 1968 exam.

Trump’s 1-Y classification stayed in effect until February 1, 1972 when it was changed to a 4-F classification (which covered registrants not qualified for military service). The change in classification was likely prompted by the military’s December 1971 decision to abolish the 1-Y classification.

The Selective Service records also include a copy of the registration card signed by Trump in June 1964, 10 days after he turned 18. The possible future Commander-in-Chief, it turns out, has birthmarks on both his heels. (3 pages)
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He had enemy hair, even then.
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So what Bill Clinton had a deferment and did you bitch and moan about that before he was elected? The current Vice President had a deferment are you going to complain about him? The head of the Democratic party Howard Dean had a deferment was that brought up when he ran for President and did you bitch about it then?
just a little list of people that had deferments
Draft Deferment: Vietnam

yet another red herring these days it has no real relevance and don't say should he lead the armed forces garbage our current commander in chief never served in the military and are you going to start bitching about it?
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gokenin, the issue is not about the deferment, every rich son of a bitch gets deferments, the poor, not so much.. Having a family income below the poverty line does not get you out of the draft, but having enough money to go to school forever sure does.

The issue is, he lied about getting a deferment implying he would have gone if called. Where as, he clearly took another way to get out of fighting for his country. NOt a red herring at all. If he'd just said "I used educational deferments to dodge the draft.. all would have been well.

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QuoteOriginally posted by gokenin Quote
So what Bill Clinton had a deferment and did you bitch and moan about that before he was elected? The current Vice President had a deferment are you going to complain about him? The head of the Democratic party Howard Dean had a deferment was that brought up when he ran for President and did you bitch about it then?
just a little list of people that had deferments
Draft Deferment: Vietnam

yet another red herring these days it has no real relevance and don't say should he lead the armed forces garbage our current commander in chief never served in the military and are you going to start bitching about it?
The issue here is that when his lips move, what comes out has no connection with the truth--whether it is about birth certificates or his own life. Otherwise, I couldn't care less about his deferment.
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QuoteOriginally posted by gokenin Quote
So what Bill Clinton had a deferment and did you bitch and moan about that before he was elected? The current Vice President had a deferment are you going to complain about him? The head of the Democratic party Howard Dean had a deferment was that brought up when he ran for President and did you bitch about it then?
just a little list of people that had deferments
Draft Deferment: Vietnam

yet another red herring these days it has no real relevance and don't say should he lead the armed forces garbage our current commander in chief never served in the military and are you going to start bitching about it?
Don't get your knickers all in a knot. The issue is he simply lied -- again. Everything he says is a lie. And btw, I did serve (USN 1964-1968) even though I twice had a student deferrment.
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WAIT... Birthmarks on BOTH heels!?! I google that and get a lot of sign of the beast stuff?

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