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05-17-2011, 09:14 PM   #1
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Anyone heard this 9/11 story before?

The 5th plane to be seized on 9/11, and the terrorists who got away ? NewsWorks

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No, I haven't but it doesn't surprise me. There were a lot of botched up things with the whole 9/11 investigation and this just adds more questions. There are a lot of questions that have never been answered publicly and it surprises me that the mainstream press hasn't pursued any of this.
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Yes, actually I read about it after 9-11 somewhere online but since they never came out and said it actually happened "officially" I just thought it was a web rumor thing and not legit news story.
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There were so many rumors and so much speculation at the time, that anyone with a blog seems happy to spread. That one went around with different alleged flight numbers. The origin appears to be the completely understandable investigation by the FBI at the time to see if there were any other planes in the plan. I don't see much point to speculating now. We've been though commissions, and no one has come up with any evidence that there was another plane. If anything, they did not have enough hijackers for the ones we know about.

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FoxNews.com : Friday, September 14, 2001

Yes, that is old news:

"At least one man claiming to be a pilot has been arrested and up to nine others detained in at least two of New York's three area airports, as officials probed the possibility some of those held were carrying knives, tickets booked for flights Tuesday morning and might be hijackers.

The arrest and detainments caused the immediate closure of all three of the city's airports, which had opened just hours earlier. Peter Yerkes, a spokesman for the Port Authority, which runs the airports, said planes in the air were being allowed to land, but no planes were allowed to take off. The hold went into effect shortly before 5 p.m.

A source knowledgable of the workings of the airline industry said the man arrested at John F. Kennedy International Airport checked in sometime between noon and 4 p.m. The man was trying to board American Airlines flight 299 bound for San Jose.

The man had been scheduled for an earlier flight on Tuesday bound for Los Angeles, but that flight was canceled after the terrorist attack began on the World Trade Center, the source said. A subsequent strip search found the man had a pilot's certificate from a Florida school, the source said.

The FBI was already investigating whether an altercation at Kennedy Airport on Tuesday was linked to the World Trade Center explosion, a law enforcement source told The Associated Press on Thursday.


The Tuesday incident occurred about 9 a.m. -- the same time two hijacked jet airliners crashed into the World Trade Center towers, toppling the two 110-story buildings. The source said the FBI is investigating whether the incident may have been an aborted hijacking attempt.

After the plane was boarded, United Airlines officials told passengers that United Airlines Flight 23, bound for Los Angeles, had been cancelled. Three males traveling refused to disembark. The argument with a member of the flight crew became so heated that the crew member called airport security. But before security arrived, the men had vanished, said the source, who spoke on the condition of anonymity.

On Thursday, according to the airline industry source, a man presented a ticket for Tuesday's Los Angeles flight at the counter -- but told airline employees that he had changed his mind and now wanted to travel to San Jose.

People at the ticket counter were suspicious, but they changed the ticket and alerted a supervisor who, in turn, notified Port Authority police. Authorities tracked the man to the gate, where he passed through security checks, including metal detectors. He was then stopped at the gate by security.

A short time later, three more men arrived at Kennedy and boarded American Airlines flight 133 to Los Angeles. Minutes later, law enforcement officers secretly boarded the plane using a catering cart, according to the industry source. The officers, with weapons drawn, then removed the three from the plane.

The industry source was unable to account for the other two people detained.

ABC News reported Thursday night that 10 people in all were detained trying to board flights at JFK and LaGuardia. They included nine men and one woman carrying knives, false identification cards, and flying licenses/certificate from Flight Safety International in Vero Beach, Fla. Four men and a woman were detained sometime before 5 p.m. at JFK, ABC said. Another five were detained between 7:30 and 8:15 p.m. at LaGuardia.

Early Friday, U.S. and Philippine authorities raided a hotel in the Philippines in connection with the attacks, Philippines President Gloria Arroyo said.

Arroyo, speaking at a Tokyo news conference, said the "joint action" was taken at the Bayview Hotel, which is near the U.S. Embassy in Manila.

The investigation was fueled by the discovery of the black box from United Airlines Flight 93 in Pennsylvania and the reception of a signal from the black box of the plane that crashed at the Pentagon.

Search crews will not be able to retrieve the black box at the Pentagon, which could contain information about the last minutes of American Airlines Flight 77, until they are able to enter the collapsed area of the Pentagon, where the plane's fuselage rests.

They were to begin moving into the collapsed area sometime Thursday night, said Arlington County Fire Capt. Scott McKay.

The Justice Department said Thursday that at least 18 hijackers were on the four planes that crashed; two planes with five and two with four. There are reports Thursday that up to 50 suspects have been identified, with 40 accounted for, many of them dead, and 10 missing.

Meanwhile, one person was arrested Thursday in connection with the attacks in Hamburg, Germany, Fox News has confirmed.

"Most of it today points to Usama bin Laden but the speculation at the end of the road is that he and his network were very much involved with Hezbollah, Fatah" and other terrorist organizations, Sen. Charles Grassley said. "

FOXNews.com - One Arrested, Others Detained at NY Airports - U.S. & World
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QuoteOriginally posted by GeneV Quote
There were so many rumors and so much speculation at the time, that anyone with a blog seems happy to spread. That one went around with different alleged flight numbers. The origin appears to be the completely understandable investigation by the FBI at the time to see if there were any other planes in the plan. I don't see much point to speculating now. We've been though commissions, and no one has come up with any evidence that there was another plane. If anything, they did not have enough hijackers for the ones we know about.
Yeah, ...apart from the possibility someone needs arresting, I'm not seeing the *big deal* about it. The more complicated a plan gets, the more likely something goes wrong. Even Flight 93 shows that: the hijackers were foiled (At great cost) simply because they didn't have surprise anymore, and everything had gone 'right' for them even up to *that* point.
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QuoteOriginally posted by Ratmagiclady Quote
Yeah, ...apart from the possibility someone needs arresting, I'm not seeing the *big deal* about it. The more complicated a plan gets, the more likely something goes wrong. Even Flight 93 shows that: the hijackers were foiled (At great cost) simply because they didn't have surprise anymore, and everything had gone 'right' for them even up to *that* point.
They also didn't have all 5 hijackers as in the other flights.

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