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05-25-2011, 02:17 PM   #1
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DSK is innocent!

I think he is innocent, I mean seriously why rape the maid when he can have a woman for $20 in Harlem? Plus he is really rich, I mean if he wanted he could pay dozen escorts to take care of any pulsions or stress he may feel.

In my opinion he was becoming too big a threat since he was the favourite candidate for the presidential election in France but we won't discuss politics here.

Do you think he is innocent and was framed? Do you think he did it? Do you think the maid was an escort perhaps who saw an opening for profit? Maybe someone paid her to do it? What do you think?

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QuoteOriginally posted by Noob Quote
I think he is innocent, I mean seriously why rape the maid when he can have a woman for $20 in Harlem? Plus he is really rich, I mean if he wanted he could pay dozen escorts to take care of any pulsions or stress he may feel.

In my opinion he was becoming too big a threat since he was the favourite candidate for the presidential election in France but we won't discuss politics here.

Do you think he is innocent and was framed? Do you think he did it? Do you think the maid was an escort perhaps who saw an opening for profit? Maybe someone paid her to do it? What do you think?
Yes, it's true that a rich man has never raped anybody...

I don't really care whether he did it or not, though I would of course prefer that he not be wrongfully convicted.

By all accounts the dude is a bit of a scumbag any way you cut it.
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Yes, it's true that a rich man has never raped anybody...

I don't really care whether he did it or not, though I would of course prefer that he not be wrongfully convicted.

By all accounts the dude is a bit of a scumbag any way you cut it.
The US press hates him and makes him look like the devil incarnate. But in France he is more popular than the president or the church. Why is he a scumbag?
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The US press hates him and makes him look like the devil incarnate. But in France he is more popular than the president or the church. Why is he a scumbag?
Guess you've missed all the other generally trustworthy women who previously (back to the 90s) accused him of sexual assault, and the others who have coming forth since this came to light? DSK is basically a small-time Berlusconi.

Anyway:
Strauss-Kahn DNA Found on Maid's Shirt - WSJ.com

Ebert's had the best reaction to this whole thing:



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I tend to trust her:
http://www.liberation.fr/politiques/06013670-tristane-banon-dsk-a-un-grave-probleme

Why rape a maid? Why do anything wrong? Why commit any crime when you can refrain from doing it?

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05-25-2011, 03:37 PM   #6
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DSK and sex, that's a long story. Maybe just the wrong impulse at the wrong moment. Damned, I may have voted for him!
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His life is over, give that low life POS a rope to hang himself.
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I will let the courts decide his innocence of guilt, but a few things don't add up in the DSK is innocent story for me...

The lynch pin of DSK's defense isn't that they didn't have sex and the whole story is a lie, its that the sex was consensual.

From DSK's perspective, as a married man:
Why would he have sex with some random maid in his hotel?
Is he just into dogging or risky sex?
If so, is that the kind of man who should be leading a country? Its kind of perverted.

From the maid's perspective:
A newspaper has reported that she was living in a building owned by an HIV/AIDS non-profit which only rents to households with an HIV/AIDS positive adult, and she is a single mother. Most responsible HIV positive people (this woman sounds like she is responsible) I know do not make a habit of engaging in risky sexual behavior like this encounter was described to be.
Why would she consent to have any kind of sexual contact with an ugly old guy and risk spreading the disease and risk her job when she has a child to support?

The only scenarios I can imagine as a (very remote) possibility is that there was money changing hands and he paid or thought he had paid for her sexual services. Maybe he ordered a hooker and she had the misfortune of arriving first and DSK mistook her for his girl. Even under one of these scenarios, prostitution and paying for sex is illegal in NY State so he still broke the law.

I just have a hard time believing that this guy is so charming that he managed to sweep the maid off her feet in the time it took her to clean his suite.

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I'd also like to point out that the OP, troll that he is, is displaying a fundamental misunderstanding/ignorance of the psychological factors behind rape. Rape is rarely about lack of access to other forms of sex--it's a power play. The idea that someone wouldn't rape someone because there are other ways to get laid is absurd.
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QuoteOriginally posted by deadwolfbones Quote
I'd also like to point out that the OP, troll that he is, is displaying a fundamental misunderstanding/ignorance of the psychological factors behind rape. Rape is rarely about lack of access to other forms of sex--it's a power play. The idea that someone wouldn't rape someone because there are other ways to get laid is absurd.
Bingo.
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If theres anything that I know about women it is that NOTHING makes them feel sexier or gets them hornier than working up a sweat changing unfitted bed sheets and scrubbing bathrooms.

Doing all that skirt work must have gotten her so turned on that she seduced him.
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Quite honestly I don't believe it. He is the most powerful frenchman after the President. Why would he seek power when he already has more than enough? And then having all those women file complaints now; isn't that a bit suspicious? To me it is; he was either framed or these women saw a profit in doing what they did. Anyone notice how terribly ugly all the women he 'raped' are? I don't think anyone would be crazy enough to rape them and even if it was about power as deadwolfbones says he'd have raped prettier women. The guy has taste after all he drives a Porsche Panamera, goes only to the best restaurants etc... It's the US press that makes him look bad in the papers because they hate 'rich people' and is very protective of afro-americans and muslims, I think in the US there is also a stronger feel of freedom of speech and so any reporter can unleash his furry on a sheet of paper and not be fired for it. When I went to the US I remember that in many places in New York people rather put 'Happy Holidays' instead of 'Merry Christmas as to not offend the muslim, atheist and jewish communities.
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He is the most powerful frenchman after the President. Why would he seek power when he already has more than enough?
Precisely--people with power seek power to confirm their power. I'm talking about a specific urge to power that power itself instills in people. It is the urge through which power dominates men of power: a "feeling" that you *can*. (It's for the same reason that Tiger Woods *needed* to have his sexual fantasies secretly fulfilled. Those fantasies were both expressions of power and manifestations of the urge to confirm his sense of the self in domination. But in Woods' case the demon didn't take away all self-control--he didn't make the guy act absolutely recklessly.)

I suspect it's ideology talking in your lines, not you. (Of course, I might be mistaken.) Your political sympathies probably lie with the Socialists, whose presidential hope Kahn was. But to be yourself in what you say you must be faithful to truth--and that you do by not letting your attachments impair your judgment.
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And then having all those women file complaints now; isn't that a bit suspicious?
"all those women"---yes. a good number of them.
Did you see the interview with Tristane Banon? The honesty of her demeanor is striking. She's not every woman; she's a known writer and the daughter of a Socialist politician. What would she have to gain out of this story?
But you've mentioned a reason why a woman harassed by DSK would not file complaint: his power. I'd ad to this the French macho mentality and some traits of the French political culture.

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if it was about power as deadwolfbones says he'd have raped prettier women.
I read you're 21. That explains the thinking. (Schwarzenegger's maid wasn't exactly a model, either. Nor was Lewinsky.)

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Noob,

Could it be that he raped, in your words, "terribly ugly" women, because he thought they would be less likely to complain or even be believed if they spoke up? After all, everyone knows that only pretty women get raped. Ugly women are so desperate that they'll let anyone take them anywhere anytime... especially if he has money.

Mike

p.s. also, for your information... people with power almost always seek more... any given level of power is never enough in the long run. It's like a drug. you get used to a certain level so you need more to get a rush...
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