[jeffkrol]

Just food for thought and a bit more later. I find this article fascinating though maybe a bit much but I have to dig deeper......

Completing the American Revolution

anyways it lead me to a minor epiphany 9is there such a thing?)on our polarization and the difficulty of finding a solution..

BUT this convergence is a curiosity:

According to the view of the merchant class, the state is to be controlled by elites or "better people" who decide what is best for the "common people." Government's role is to protect the single human capability of ownership. All other capabilities--learning, pursuit of happiness, freedom, human concern--are to be subordinated to property. The state's only role is to assure that the impersonal market system runs smoothly. This requires that the government use violent force when it becomes necessary to protect personal property.

The delegates to the 1787 Constitutional Convention in Philadelphia were selected by state legislatures--not by popular vote of the people. The capitalist class was frightened by how much power the working class had been able to muster in the separate colonies and they could see from the Shays rebellion that the people were quite capable of rebelling against the wealthy class when it seized their hard-earned lands, crops, and animals.

Completing the American Revolution

A hundred people protested Governor Scott Walker’s speaking engagement at the Wisconsin Real Estate and Economic Outlook Conference, co-sponsored by the Wisconsin Realtors Association. Representative Paul Ryan is slated to speak at 1:30.

The realtors endorsed Walker for governor last year and more recently David Prosser for state Supreme Court. The Wisconsin State Journal reports that the association’s 2010 election contributions to Walker’s campaign amounted to more than $150,000.

John Peck of the Family Farm Defenders (and organizer of the tractorcade protest) was there to protest Walker’s arrival at the Fluno Center.

“We’re just concerned about the land grab going on. Whenever there’s a financial crisis, the banks, speculators, and hedge funds starting kicking people out of their houses and famers off their land,” said Peck. “Paul Ryan and Scott Walker are aiding and abetting the foreclosures and evictions.”

Judy Karofsky, in her sixties, was there for a very specific reason. The event was taking place at the James A. Graaskamp Center for Real Estate, and she had been one of his last grad students. Graaskamp was a longtime chair of the real estate department at the University of Wisconsin. Early in his life, he was stricken with polio, which left him as a paraplegic.

“This is an affront to his memory,” she said. She stressed “how caring he was” about economic development that helped people. “And how he overcame his physical disability empowered us all. What a travesty to have a governor who has decimated programs for people with disabilities speak at the center named after him.”

Alisha Muhammad, of the group Take Back the Land, was recently evicted from her house on Madison’s west side. She and her group yelled chants outside the main entrance.

“Housing is a human right,” Muhammad said. “Walker is here to discuss how to take money from homeowners.”

Walker Greeted by Protesters at Realtors Meeting | The Progressive

Noting the DOT’s power of condemnation, Gottlieb said “we must be a good stewards of the public dollars that are given to use to make real estate purchases” but “we always want to be fair with property owners we are dealing with.”

Gottlieb says he knows the DOT’s work can be “inherently disruptive” to communities but wants to work with property owners and create partnerships with stakeholders to work towards viable solutions.

“We’re going to be open, we’re going to be transparent, and we’re going to listen,” Gottlieb said. “Our goal is to be fair and open so property owners understand the process and their rights.”

Agency heads give insight on government's role in economic development | State Bar of Wisconsin

err... WHAT rights???????

[shooz]

The "rights" of the corporate SUPER citizen.
You know they like peeing in the stream, as long as they don't live down river.
They don't really care for the taste of dioxin, PCBs and such.

[jeffkrol]

To get back to my "newest" theories.. We now have 2 ideologies 1) The Costitutionalists..
A Constutuion based on the Oligarchic control of the masses and 2)Th Bill of Rightists..
The laws forced onto the new gov. in order to more likely fill the "ideal" (smoke and mirrors) sold to the masses in order to convince them to fight a war against their own good..

Explains to me why Oligarchs think they are fulfilling the American Dream..THEIR DREAM.
To use a few passages from the article I was looking at:

The Convention met entirely in secret, and it would be fifty-three years before American citizens were allowed to see the record of what had transpired in this coup d'etat which enshrined mercantile capitalism as the imposed way of life for Americans. Of the sixty-two delegates appointed to the Convention, fifty-five showed up. At the Convention, no more than eleven states were ever represented at one time. Of the fifty-five members of the Convention; only thirty-nine signed the final draft.
The illegal Constitution these conspirators contrived:
Was in effect an economic document, enshrining property as the primary value
Was anti-majoritarian, making sure that the "common people" could no longer gain political power over the minority capitalist class
the conspiratorial Constitutional Convention
Contained no checks against plutocratic (corporate) power
Created the private control of government by the capitalist class, including the creation of domestic and foreign policy
Disallowed city or state assemblies to make decisions which the federal government was to make
Assured that effective political power was unavailable at the local level

Knowing that the popular majority in all the states would oppose this oligarchic document, the framers of the Constitution inserted the provision that it would go into effect when ratified by only nine states.

The first post-constitutional major skirmish in the ongoing battle of the "common people" against the wealthy class, was the passage of the Bill of Rights in 1791. These first ten amendments to the Constitution embodied many of the working class's concerns which had been expressed during the ratification process. But it is exceptionally important to recognize that the original Constitution and the Bill of Rights omit any protection for common people against corporations or capitalist employees.

So which America do we want to become??..

In 1850, 1,000 southern families received about $50 million a year income while all the other 660,000 families combined received about $60 million a year. In 1920s America one-tenth of one percent of the wealthy at the top received as much income as the combined income of 42 percent of the people at the bottom.

In 1995 American corporate CEO salaries increased by 92 percent; corporate profits rose 75 percent, worker layoffs increased 39 percent, consumer prices went up 17%. The highest paid CEO received more than $65 million in 1995. The top 1 percent in America own approximately 60 percent of all wealth. Approximately 35 percent of American families were living below the poverty line in 1998.

There can be no compromise till we have an"Adult Conversation" and admittance of which America we want.........
The original Oligarchical corporate controlled one? or the "packaged and sold to the masses" commonwealth one? note Common Wealth....

American citizens have historically enjoyed a wider range of liberties than most citizens in other countries. But those American liberties have always been at the sufferance of the rulers. When they have felt it necessary they limited or destroyed American liberties without compunction. Americans have suffered under restrictions to civil liberties throughout our history.

A small group of wealthy people in America has always ruled the nation for its own benefit, not for the welfare of the people. The huge land holdings of the British loyalists, for example, was one of the obscenities against which poor soldiers fought in the American "War for Independence." the British House of Commons But after the war Lord Fairfax, a friend of George Washington, was allowed to retain his five million acres encompassing twenty-one counties in Virginia.

The first American revolution resulted only in a change in rulers: from the British elite to an American plutocracy. Sixty-nine percent of the signers of the Declaration of Independence had held colonial office under England.

[shooz]

First we have to admit what we are.
That's a tall order, given the current state of the media.