New PF Look: A sneak preview!

threeshoes · 07-05-2011, 10:27 PM

That looks good, from the snapshots at least.

Bruce · 07-05-2011, 11:43 PM

Nice Adam, very clean!

bc_the_path · 07-06-2011, 12:12 AM

The best thing about the change is larger fonts, I believe.
Anxious to see it online

**35mmGun** · 07-06-2011, 03:55 AM

looks good to me

Jabax · 07-06-2011, 06:45 AM

Thanks for all your work!

dr.seb · 07-06-2011, 07:09 AM

Thanks a bunch guys, for your care and effort. Looks very nice and professional, seems to be user friendly as well. Good job

glanglois · 07-06-2011, 08:07 AM

Nice work, Adam! We appreciate your efforts (and the resulting outcomes).

I have a problem with the font, though.

I understand that san serif fonts are considered modern and clean. Or at least modern. And they're widely used elsewhere.

But I was taught in J school many years ago that research shows that san serif fonts are harder to read in paragraph mode - the letters simply take more effort to puzzle out in dense groups. That's why we'll sometimes see san serif used for headlines but a serif font like Times New Roman used for the body, a font variation developed in 1831 at the Times (of London) for readability.

Given the propensity for some here to write rather long, rambling paragraphs with innovative punctuation, or none at all, I think a font like Times New Roman would be a better default.

Using a larger font is OK but I think there's an opportunity to improve readability with or without a font size change.

Adam · 07-06-2011, 08:39 AM

While that's certainly the rule-of-thumb, rules are meant to be broken

I'm reading/posting this using the new skin right now, and I can assure you that the new font is certainly much more readable than your smaller TNR.

I'm not sure whether the medium (screen or print) matters with respect to this rule, although one would think so.

glanglois · 07-06-2011, 11:45 AM

On my screen, my previous post appears to have a larger font than the default here.

Unless TNR does not mean Times New Roman.

I'm confident that it doesn't mean The New Republic or a plan for the neutering of feral cats. Well, certain about the magazine but iffy on the cats.

This is font size three, whatever that means.

I'm game to try anything and appreciate your work, Adam.

Ratmagiclady · 07-06-2011, 12:46 PM

I do think from experience and inconsistent eyes that glanglois is right about that type of font: though the spacing he displays would be frustrating. Lots of scrolling.

**Ash** · 07-06-2011, 02:00 PM

TNR, and just about all serif fonts, make for more difficult reading on screen IMO.
Sans serifs are just cleaner, more streamline and easier on the eyes.
The new font does appear even nicer than the current default one, though there is some Arial mixed in which can get a little too condensed on a large high-res screen...

Clicker · 07-06-2011, 03:25 PM

lol I didn't realize I had the option to disable mobile skin till just now when I read so

Helps a lot now when I'm on a tablet or even iPhone.
Can't wait to see he new look in action.

kneonx · 07-07-2011, 03:41 AM

Yay no more squinting on late night Lens Review fixes.

fevbusch · 07-07-2011, 08:43 AM

Hey, looks really nice, Adam. Looking forward to using it. Freddy

RioRico · 07-07-2011, 09:03 AM

Have LIKES already been decoupled from REPUTATION? My Rep score just dropped drastically in the last day or so. Part of my Rep was built by contributing many entries to the Serial Number database. Is that reward now gone?

07-06-2011, 08:39 AM	#68
Adam Administrator Site Webmaster Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Arizona Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 51,595 Original Poster	While that's certainly the rule-of-thumb, rules are meant to be broken I'm reading/posting this using the new skin right now, and I can assure you that the new font is certainly much more readable than your smaller TNR. I'm not sure whether the medium (screen or print) matters with respect to this rule, although one would think so. Adam PentaxForums.com Webmaster (Site Usage Guide \| Site Help \| My Photography) PentaxForums.com server and development costs are user-supported. You can help cover these costs by donating or purchasing one of our Pentax eBooks. Or, buy your photo gear from our affiliates, Adorama, B&H Photo, KEH, or Topaz Labs, and get FREE Marketplace access - click here to see how! Trusted Pentax retailers:

07-07-2011, 08:43 AM	#74
fevbusch Pentaxian Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Brooklyn, New York Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 1,064	The new look Hey, looks really nice, Adam. Looking forward to using it. Freddy

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07-05-2011, 10:27 PM	#61
threeshoes Junior Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Dorset, UK Photos: Gallery Posts: 28	That looks good, from the snapshots at least.

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Bruce Veteran Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Sydney Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 448	Nice Adam, very clean!

07-06-2011, 12:12 AM	#63
bc_the_path Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Ankara, Turkey Photos: Gallery Posts: 401	The best thing about the change is larger fonts, I believe. Anxious to see it online

07-06-2011, 03:55 AM	#64
35mmGun Site Supporter Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Glasgow Photos: Albums Posts: 14	looks good to me

07-06-2011, 06:45 AM	#65
Jabax New Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Oregon, USA Posts: 3	Thanks for all your work!

07-06-2011, 07:09 AM	#66
dr.seb Inactive Account Join Date: May 2011 Location: Jerusalem Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 13	Thanks a bunch guys, for your care and effort. Looks very nice and professional, seems to be user friendly as well. Good job

07-06-2011, 08:07 AM	#67
glanglois Veteran Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Madison, Wis., USA Posts: 1,506	Nice work, Adam! We appreciate your efforts (and the resulting outcomes). I have a problem with the font, though. I understand that san serif fonts are considered modern and clean. Or at least modern. And they're widely used elsewhere. But I was taught in J school many years ago that research shows that san serif fonts are harder to read in paragraph mode - the letters simply take more effort to puzzle out in dense groups. That's why we'll sometimes see san serif used for headlines but a serif font like Times New Roman used for the body, a font variation developed in 1831 at the Times (of London) for readability. Given the propensity for some here to write rather long, rambling paragraphs with innovative punctuation, or none at all, I think a font like Times New Roman would be a better default. Using a larger font is OK but I think there's an opportunity to improve readability with or without a font size change.

07-06-2011, 11:45 AM	#69
glanglois Veteran Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Madison, Wis., USA Posts: 1,506	On my screen, my previous post appears to have a larger font than the default here. Unless TNR does not mean Times New Roman. I'm confident that it doesn't mean The New Republic or a plan for the neutering of feral cats. Well, certain about the magazine but iffy on the cats. This is font size three, whatever that means. I'm game to try anything and appreciate your work, Adam.

07-06-2011, 12:46 PM	#70
Ratmagiclady Veteran Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: GA Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 13,563	I do think from experience and inconsistent eyes that glanglois is right about that type of font: though the spacing he displays would be frustrating. Lots of scrolling.

07-06-2011, 02:00 PM	#71
Ash Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Toowoomba, Queensland Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 23,920	TNR, and just about all serif fonts, make for more difficult reading on screen IMO. Sans serifs are just cleaner, more streamline and easier on the eyes. The new font does appear even nicer than the current default one, though there is some Arial mixed in which can get a little too condensed on a large high-res screen...

07-06-2011, 03:25 PM	#72
Clicker Veteran Member Join Date: May 2008 Photos: Gallery Posts: 3,241	lol I didn't realize I had the option to disable mobile skin till just now when I read so Helps a lot now when I'm on a tablet or even iPhone. Can't wait to see he new look in action.

07-07-2011, 03:41 AM	#73
kneonx Inactive Account Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Singapore, Farrer Park Posts: 44	Yay no more squinting on late night Lens Review fixes.

07-07-2011, 09:03 AM	#75
RioRico Veteran Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Limbo, California Posts: 11,263	Have LIKES already been decoupled from REPUTATION? My Rep score just dropped drastically in the last day or so. Part of my Rep was built by contributing many entries to the Serial Number database. Is that reward now gone?