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09-30-2011, 06:24 AM   #61
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QuoteOriginally posted by MRRiley Quote
All of this because Abraham couldn't keep it in his pants and had a son with another woman before having a son with his wife (despite the fact that the Old Testament says this was all his wife's idea... yeah right. nothing is ever the mans fault in that book is it? Eve, Lot's daughters, Sarah and Hagar...). Perhaps if Abraham had treated Ishmael equitably, the Jews and the Arabs wouldn't hate each other so vehemently.
bible puts it that way. not Quran. disclaimer: i have read both

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A releated NYT Op-ed by Nicholas Kristof: http://www.nytimes.com/2011/10/06/opinion/kristof-is-israel-its-own-worst-enemy.html
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