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11-06-2011, 07:06 PM   #16
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A bit more digging on the past.. and some new stuff that some feel is related.....
Cold Fusion Viable Again? Sure, If You Say So

ZPEnergy.com - Astronomical observation suggests:Physics laws can change in the Universe
Dark Energy: Is The Theory Of Gravity Wrong?
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“This implies that one of two very different possibilities must hold true,” explains Enzo Branchini, member of the team. “Either the Universe is filled with a mysterious dark energy which produces a repulsive force that fights the gravitational brake from all the matter present in the Universe, or, our current theory of gravitation is not correct and needs to be modified, for example by adding extra dimensions to space.”
Tadahiko Mizuno, et al. : Plasma Electrolysis

http://64.142.106.183/v2/library/2007/2007SzpakS-FurtherEvidence-Naturwissenschaften.pdf

A bit more digging on the past.. and some new stuff that some feel is related.....
Cold Fusion Viable Again? Sure, If You Say So

ZPEnergy.com - Astronomical observation suggests:Physics laws can change in the Universe
Dark Energy: Is The Theory Of Gravity Wrong?
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“This implies that one of two very different possibilities must hold true,” explains Enzo Branchini, member of the team. “Either the Universe is filled with a mysterious dark energy which produces a repulsive force that fights the gravitational brake from all the matter present in the Universe, or, our current theory of gravitation is not correct and needs to be modified, for example by adding extra dimensions to space.”
Tadahiko Mizuno, et al. : Plasma Electrolysis

http://64.142.106.183/v2/library/2007/2007SzpakS-FurtherEvidence-Naturwissenschaften.pdf

http://www.wired.co.uk/news/archive/2011-11/06/cold-fusion-heating-up



AND it's possible corollary:
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But the story gets stranger still.

My colleagues and I have looked out into the universe all over the sky, probing physics in 300 different places. We’ve found the strength of electromagnetism changes gradually from one “side” of the universe to another – a slow spatial gradient in physics.

The implications for science are profound. All “textbook” physics rests on the assumption of constancy of the laws of physics. One example is Einstein’s theory of general relativity, which embodies this assumption in something called the “Equivalence Principle”.

If my colleagues and I are right, this may now need to be demoted to the “Equivalence Approximation”. The fundamental equations of cosmology may need altering, with important re-interpretations for a multitude of experimental data, potentially even including the seemingly mysterious “dark energy”, which is currently thought to provide 70% of the energy content of the universe, even though its nature is entirely unknown.
But the story gets stranger still.

My colleagues and I have looked out into the universe all over the sky, probing physics in 300 different places. We’ve found the strength of electromagnetism changes gradually from one “side” of the universe to another – a slow spatial gradient in physics.

The implications for science are profound. All “textbook” physics rests on the assumption of constancy of the laws of physics. One example is Einstein’s theory of general relativity, which embodies this assumption in something called the “Equivalence Principle”.

If my colleagues and I are right, this may now need to be demoted to the “Equivalence Approximation”. The fundamental equations of cosmology may need altering, with important re-interpretations for a multitude of experimental data, potentially even including the seemingly mysterious “dark energy”, which is currently thought to provide 70% of the energy content of the universe, even though its nature is entirely unknown.



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11-11-2011, 05:31 PM   #17
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National Instruments signs to do E-Cat controls

National Instruments signs to do E-Cat controls

is it ready to be taken seriously yet?
11-14-2011, 11:05 AM   #18
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The Machine That Changes Everything | Blogs | NCRegister.com

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So what if, and I know it is a big if, but what if Rossi is right? What if our understanding of physics is incomplete and this thing is for real? What then?

Unlimited cheap energy would save the world, right? Well, yes. Right after it almost destroys it. If this thing is verified and becomes that machine that changed the world or even if it is a fraud, someday, somewhere, somebody will build the machine that changed the world and the one thing you can count on is war.

As you know, there is a whole part of the world whose entire existence is funded by oil money. Their whole existence, they have nothing, NOTHING else. If that oil becomes severely devalued overnight their leaders will need to attack other people lest their people attack them. Like I said, the machine that changes everything.

So is Rossi right? History is replete with the scientific community scoffing and ridiculing that which they don’t understand, after all, scientists are people too. So are we saved and doomed at the same time?
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The Peak Oil Crisis: Transitioning to Cold Fusion | Falls Church News-Press Online

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They were not long in coming. Last week it was learned that George Miley, a Professor Emeritus of nuclear engineering at the University of Illinois who has been conducting experiments similar to those in Italy for many years, has been observing anomalous amounts of heat emanating from test equipment similar to that being used in Bologna. Miley has been experimenting with palladium-zirconium alloys, but says his experiments are producing so much heat that could only be coming from fusion of atomic nuclei. Unlike the Italian experiments which are aimed at developing a proprietary commercial product, the Illinois experiments are being conducting under the auspices of a state university with details of the experiments being made known as soon as possible. At a university the aim of scientific research is to win a Nobel Prize, or at least academic prestige, not to make money.
not to make money... err not "exactly" true....



Cold Fusion Energy, Inc.
Consortium of Cold Fusion Scientists Organized Cold Fusion News
Report On A Conversation With George Miley - Stormfront
BTW: Stormfront is an "interesting" though disturbing site in it's own "white" err right.........

Report On A Conversation With George Miley | e-Cat Site
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I hope to find someone who can provide funding for this research. It has some major advantages over Rossi’s research:
The power density and temperatures are roughly comparable with Rossi.
Tests with nickel might produce the same light water effect that Rossi has observed.
This is a state university so the results would be made public.
Miley and his students are conventional academic scientists, not businessmen. They have no imperative to keep their results secret. On the contrary they would publish as quickly as they can to establish priority.
Miley’s researchers are young. See slide 46. This kind of research should be done by young people. Frankly, I would rather have one young person than 5 elderly scientists.
Mikemike wil appreciate the bolded part........





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This gives me tingles......



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If you chose to watch the video, Dr. Miley’s presentation begins at the 5:15 mark.
“My talk is a little different because we have been doing research on this for a number of years but we feel that we have gotten to the point where now we can think about products. One that we will talk about here is what we think ready-made for this type of energy source, namely a radioisotope thermoelectric generator which is used by NASA on almost all their space probes. At the moment they are using plutonium-239 for that, which is no longer going to be produced…..they need future sources, so this would be a natural fit.”
“At the moment we can run continuously at levels of a few hundred watts. We would like to go to a level of about 300 watts.“
“So the plan now, having accomplished all that….we think that we have a road map to a prototype….I think before we commercialize this we will get a better name, we need a jazzy name….we are still working to maximize the nano-particle manufacture.”
As a prototype design for the cell, the Miley group has chosen the existing RTG unit as they feel this design will work well with what Dr. Miley calls their “generalized heat source.”
Mr. Rossi Goes to Market, Dr. Miley and Others Hope to Follow | e-Cat Site
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new web site

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ECAT.com - Andrea Rossi's Energy Catalyzer, E-Cat - ECAT

Only related because it will also get us off "flat earth".............

New results show neutrinos still faster than light - physics-math - 18 November 2011 - New Scientist

IF neutrinoes exceed the speed of light much of our "knowledge" in physics will join the "phlogiston theory" in history.....

Actually it may be vindicated w/ a return to that elusive energy of the universe...
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The theory holds that all combustible resources contain phlogiston, a substance without colour, odor, taste or mass, and is liberated in burning. Once burned, the "dephlogisticated" substance was held to be in its "true" form, the calx.
Interesting food for thought:

Journal of Nuclear Physics

Can dilithium crystals be far behind??? sorry......

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Recent accelerator experiments on fusion of various elements have clearly demonstrated that the effective cross-sections of these reactions depend on what material the target particle is placed in. In these experiments, there was a significant increase in the probability of interaction when target nuclei are imbedded in a conducting crystal or are a part of it. These experiments open a new perspective on the problem of so-called cold nuclear fusion.
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Semi-important update

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Apparently, energy localization at the nano-scale circumvents the 2nd Law of Thermodynamics. Nature evolved to take advantage of these energy exchange mechanisms available only at this size scale (which is why ordered structures can be created from chaos, such as after the big bang.) This phenomenon was identified in 1996 as Oscillons in relation to Chaos Theory, but has never been clearly understood until now.
LENR "Cold Fusion" nano-magnetism phenomenon details to be revealed December 7th

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Brian Josephson who supports cold fusion asks Rossi to do a scientific test wtih UK Energy Department

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Dear Andrea,
It appears that the UK Department of Energy and Climate Change (DECC), unlike its US counterpart, has an open mind regarding your reactor, and acting upon Francesco Celani's suggestion from the Focus magazine's pages is likely to have a beneficial outcome by dispelling any doubts they may have. Is not the likelihood of endorsement from an institution such as the DECC of interest to you?
Regards, Brian Josephson
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Responding to an invitation from Senate Minority Leader Bruce Tarr (R-Gloucester), the Italian scientist who claims to have developed the world’s first nuclear cold fusion reactor was to visit the State House today to explore the prospects of developing the device and producing it in Massachusetts....
“The enormous potential of this technology demands that it be addressed by the best scientific minds in the world,” said Tarr. “Since Massachusetts is the home of some of the best colleges and universities in the world, it makes sense for that process to happen here.”

Tarr expressed his appreciation to those joining him in meetings with Rossi from MIT, Northeastern and UMass, saying “our institutions of higher learning have been tremendous in their response to this opportunity, and I look forward to working with them.”

Read more: Tarr hosts visit as cold fusion inventor comes to Boston - Gloucester, MA - Wicked Local Gloucester Tarr hosts visit as cold fusion inventor comes to Boston - Gloucester, MA - Wicked Local Gloucester

Tarr hosts visit as cold fusion inventor comes to Boston - Gloucester, MA - Wicked Local Gloucester

http://www.e-catworld.com/2011/11/massachusetts-senate-minority-leader-to-ho...a-state-house/

http://www.e-catworld.com/2011/11/andrea-rossi-electricity-from-e-cat-possible-within-a-year/

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But do we want this? As Arthur C. Clarke pondered: "What happens if we suddenly have millions of supercheap gigawatts to play with? What new weapons will man construct and how do we combat all the generated heat?"
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gigawatts
I know: Back to the Future!
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Your such a pessimist............
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Your such a pessimist............


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LENR “Cold Fusion” nano-magnetism phenomenon details to be revealed December 7th in NYC Citi5; Urban Sustainability Mega-Community Fund



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Citi5 cautions all that while LENR may in fact represent one of the most important advances in human history, we must move forward logically with testing for unanticipated and unitended consequences. This technology faces many years of further development to address efficiency, scale, output, and application. However, this discovery creates a clear path towards creation of a sustainable future driven by freedom, justice, creativity, and innovation.
gijjawatts,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

or jig-a-watts..

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