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10-25-2011, 04:41 PM   #1
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Gingrich: "..will be seen by historians as a decisive defeat for the U.S. in Iraq."

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The GOP presidential candidates came out swinging at President Obama after he announced last week that he would follow through with President Bush’s 2008 agreement to withdraw all U.S. troops from Iraq by the end of this year. Further validating the point that the Republican party is completely lost on foreign policy issues, their attacks haven’t really made much sense. Rick Santorum said Obama lost the Iraq war and Michele Bachmann charged that Obama is a failure because the Iraqis don’t respect him.

Newt Gingrich took the charade a bit further this weekend. On Friday, Gingrich told a reporter in Florida that Obama’s decision was the right one:


“This is not about Obama,” he continued. “This is about the general effort that far transcends Iraq. That we have to really reassess our strategies in the region and what we think we’re accomplish. The president is right. You can’t just leave 3,000 or 5,000 troops there. They would simply become targets. If you’re not going to occupy the country, you have to withdraw.”

Yet two days later, in a speech at the Iowa Faith & Freedom Coalition’s presidential candidate forum, Gingrich suggested that Obama is ushering defeat by withdrawing:


GINGRICH: The president has announced what will be seen by historians as a decisive defeat for the U.S. in Iraq. … After eight years, thousands of lives, hundreds of billions of dollars, we will leave in defeat. Don’t kid yourself, it is defeat. Iran is stronger.
Gingrich Suggests Obama Is Ushering 'Defeat' In Iraq, Two Days After Saying He's 'Right' To Withdraw | ThinkProgress

We need to drop an atomic bomb on his fat head.

10-25-2011, 05:43 PM   #2
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Sorry they just disassembled the last one big enough...........
US's biggest nuclear bomb dismantled in Texas
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The B53's disassembly ends the era of big megaton bombs, said Hans Kristensen, a spokesman for the Federation of American Scientists. The biggest nuclear bomb in the nation's arsenal now is the 1.2-megaton B83, he said. The B53 was 9 megatons.
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He apparently is counting on no one remembering what he said the *last* time he tried to play Bushco's Iraq into a 'culture war.'


And proposed a 'Contract on America.'

I remember it very well, though.

There's little I can say that about.
Except that I also remember the GOP was blaming Obama for us *still* being there, until of course, it finally both became past time to go....


And the fact that no one in that country Bush *Jr* said we were 'liberating' *wants* us there.

Bush-CHeney-Rumsfeld broke it. Just like Colin Powell said.

What are we going to do, *insist* on spending more to do things people don't want in the name of freedom? This was blown *years* ago. Time. To. Go.
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AAaaaaahhh, but we will still be there.
Aside from the state of the art embassy, Haliburton, Black Water, or what ever they're calling it these days and I'm sure at least a score of others. will be there for a while.
You know they will have their own security forces.
If they screw up again. We'll get blamed.
Any kind of journalist will have a very hard time getting anywhere near them. So don't expect any truth.

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Romney said as much earlier this week. They must have gotten their talking points from Murdoch already.

The "Mission accomplished" boys are so transparently and so desperately tugging at themselves hoping something good comes out of their spin.

Iraq was/is/always will be Bush disaster ne plus ultra (one of many disasters). From invented spent fuel rods to bogus WMDs to other assorted lies and smoke...Iraq is Bush's Master grunt sculpture. If these political mooks want to nakedly try to make cheap political points by identifying defeat--all they have to do is look in the mirror.

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spoken in my best computer simulated voice: "The only winning move is not to play..."
(War Games, 1983)

and as far as a decisive defeat for the US, maybe this country needs to eat a little humble pie once in awhile, and future commanders in chief may think more carefully before sticking their noses in the world's business. This albatross hangs around Bush's neck, not Obama.
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Romney said as much earlier this week. They must have gotten their talking points from Murdoch already.

The "Mission accomplished" boys are so transparently and so desperately tugging at themselves hoping something good comes out of their spin.

Iraq was/is/always will be Bush disaster ne plus ultra (one of many disasters). From invented spent fuel rods to bogus WMDs to other assorted lies and smoke...Iraq is Bush's Master grunt sculpture. If these political mooks want to nakedly try to make cheap political points by identifying defeat--all they have to do is look in the mirror.

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That's actually a good question, ....how is this a 'decisive defeat' in a war they claimed they 'already won' and would 'pay for itself' to 'get the WMDs' to begin with?
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I definitely remember seeing shrub standing under a banner that said mission accomplished.
How, pray tell, can Obama lose a war that shrubco had already won?
Time and again, the republicans prove themselves completely devoid of any moral fiber whatsoever.
Do they know how to do anything other than lying?

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YES!!!!!

They know how to play hide the money and they have a traveling freak show they call the debates.
So you see. they're quite talented.
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GINGRICH: The president has announced what will be seen by historians as a decisive defeat for the U.S. in Iraq. … After eight years, thousands of lives, hundreds of billions of dollars, we will leave in defeat. Don’t kid yourself, it is defeat. Iran is stronger.

So it necessarily follows then, that after eight more years, thousands more lives, billions more dollars that some academic a hundred years from now will see it as a victory? - I'm willing to take my chances.
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...and the assumption made is that GWB won't get the blame from historians...
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...and the assumption made is that GWB won't get the blame from historians...
That assumption has worked for the GOP economists.
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