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12-21-2011, 11:06 AM   #1
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An incident involving Patriot missiles

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Officials stopped the M/S Thor Liberty last week as its cargo of explosives had been stored incorrectly. The ship is carrying 160 tonnes of the explosive nitroguanidine. The material is in 25 kg packages some of which was found to be damaged. Because of the characteristics of nitroguanidine, the material should be carried in shipping containers.

In the course in inspection, it was also found that the cargo included a shipment of military missiles.
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An investigation was launched and it was determined that while not contraband, the proper transit permits for the shipment are inadequate or missing.

The National Bureau of Investigation and Finnish Customs are jointly investigating the incident as a case of export violations and violations of martime safety regulations. The captain and first mate of the Ukranian crew are to be questioned as suspects.

The explosives onboard are to be re-packed in transport containers on Friday. The Patriot missiles are being impounded and Customs has requested assistance from the Defense Forces in storing the missiles until their origin and destination can be confirmed.
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A British ship, with a Ukrainian crew, in a Finnish port, with U.S. made missiles on board.

I'm sure there's perfectly logical explanation.
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YLE further reports that the ship is registered to the Isle of Man and that according to the papers (bill of consignment) they are supposed to be "fireworks".

[edit: YLE now has the piece in English: http://www.yle.fi/uutiset/news/2011/12/missiles_listed_as_quotfireworksquot_...t_3123077.html which says "manifest" instead of the "bill of consignment" which I looked up for "rahtikirja" used in the piece in Finnish].


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QuoteOriginally posted by jolepp Quote
they are supposed to be "fireworks".
Well, that's not entirely inaccurate. They do make an impressive display when set off.
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Hmmm, wonder where those came from. . . . Besides the US, NATO Allies Germany, Greece, the Netherlands and Spain have bought them. Poland hosts US Patriot missile batteries. Outside of NATO, Bahrain, Egypt, Israel, Japan, Jordan, Kuwait, Taiwan, Korea and Sudi Arabia own them, too. Pick a villain.
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Well, that's not entirely inaccurate. They do make an impressive display when set off.
. They could be legit of course, Wikipedia has it that South Korea has bought some second hand from Germany (with US blessing, I'm sure). One would think that these are still kind of advanced and would not be trusted to a regular merchant ship, especially one with her crew from the former USSR.
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Never doubt the mind-boggling things that can happen in the course of foreign military sales. . . . Remember nuke triggers showing up in Taiwan?

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I hope they don't expect to need them soon (regarding the changes in the north).
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QuoteOriginally posted by Parallax Quote
A British ship, with a Ukrainian crew, in a Finnish port, with U.S. made missiles on board.

I'm sure there's perfectly logical explanation.
Owned and sold by Germans..............

They call it the circle of life..........
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For the record, Germany may have "bought and owned" the missiles, but the US never sells any military materiel without strings attached. Unless it's something benign or expendable, the US must agree before items are transferred to a 3d party, or disposed of.
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