Afghan man kills wife for giving birth to daughter

jogiba · 01-30-2012, 12:45 PM

Quote:

An Afghan man killed his wife for giving birth to a third daughter rather than the son he hoped for, police in Afghanistan's northern Kunduz province said on Monday.

Afghan man kills wife for giving birth to daughter | Reuters

If the ahole US Army Generals want to stay there forever then let them stay there with their families but bring our troops home.

Parallax · 01-30-2012, 01:02 PM

Originally posted by jogiba

If the ahole US Army Generals want to stay there forever

This may come as a shock, but Generals don't make those decisions. The president does.

**boriscleto** · 01-30-2012, 01:06 PM

Originally posted by Parallax

This may come as a shock, but Generals don't make those decisions. The president does.

The Generals advise the President. And for the last 11 years they have advised the President to stay in Afghanistan.

**wizofoz** · 01-30-2012, 01:15 PM - **1 Like**

Cause stuff like this only ever happens in those towel head countries...right?

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Parallax · 01-30-2012, 01:21 PM

Originally posted by boriscleto

The Generals advise the President. And for the last 11 years they have advised the President to stay in Afghanistan.

Yes, they advise him, and he can choose to take their advice or not. The current President is, just as Bush was, the Commander in Chief.

I am really concerned about North Korea's appointment of the "dear leader", Kim Jung Ill's youngest son to be the new leader of
North Korea-- a nuclear power!
After all, Kim Jung Un (pronounced Kim's young-un?) had NO military experience whatsoever before daddy made him a four-star general
in the military. This is a snot-nose twerp who has never accomplished anything in his life that that would even come close to military leadership: he hasn't even so much as led a cub scout troop, let alone coached a sports team or commanded a military platoon.
So, setting that aside, next they make him the "beloved leader" of the country. Terrific!!!

Oh, crap! I'm sorry. I just remembered that we did the same thing here, We took a community organizer who has never worn a uniform
and made him Commander-in-Chief; a guy who has never led anything more than an ACORN demonstration and made him the leader
of this country. Never mind.

(oh lighten up! I voted for him, and will again.)

jogiba · 01-30-2012, 03:22 PM

Quote:

The nation's top military officer and its top diplomat made clear Thursday that President Obama rejected the advice of his generals in choosing a quicker path to winding down the war in Afghanistan.

The Obama troop withdrawal plan, widely interpreted as marking the beginning of the end of the U.S. combat role in Afghanistan, drew criticism from both sides of the political aisle on Capitol Hill. Some Republicans decried it as undercutting the military mission at a critical stage of the war, while many Democrats called it too timid.

Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz., questioned the timing of his troop pullout plan.

"Just when they are one year away from turning over a battered and broken enemy in both southern and eastern Afghanistan to our Afghan partners - the president has now decided to deny them the forces that our commanders believe they need to accomplish their objective," McCain said.

Obama announced Wednesday night that he will pull 10,000 troops from Afghanistan by December and another 23,000 by the end of next summer.

U.S. generals' Afghanistan pullout advice rejected

Wheatfield · 01-30-2012, 04:11 PM

Originally posted by jogiba

Afghan man kills wife for giving birth to daughter | Reuters

If the ahole US Army Generals want to stay there forever then let them stay there with their families but bring our troops home.

Unfortunately, our involvement in Afghanistan dates back to the 1980s and America's insistence on running a proxy war against the old Soviet Union. For good or bad, we've made Afghanistan our problem.
We should probably have decided that we didn't like aspects of their culture before we interfered, perhaps we would have stayed home.
Or did we just dislike the Russians more.

Parallax · 01-30-2012, 04:15 PM

Originally posted by Wheatfield

Or did we just dislike the Russians more.

Yep.

ElJamoquio · 01-31-2012, 01:44 PM

Originally posted by Wheatfield

Or did we just dislike the Russians more.

We didn't give a gosh-darn about the Afghans one way or the other as far as I can recall. It was purely a proxy war.

**grhazelton** · 01-31-2012, 02:12 PM

My wife has suggested that we should air-lift all women and children out of Afghanistan, seal the border, and let the wackos fight it out without our aid or interference. Just a thought....

Jonathan Mac · 01-31-2012, 02:23 PM

Originally posted by grhazelton

My wife has suggested that we should air-lift all women and children out of Afghanistan, seal the border, and let the wackos fight it out without our aid or interference. Just a thought....

Sounds like a plan.

Perhaps if Afghan culture stopped devaluing women to the level of animals or possesions, they would consider them worthy of being brought into the world.

MRRiley · 02-06-2012, 04:40 AM

Originally posted by Jonathan Mac

Sounds like a plan.

Perhaps if Afghan culture stopped devaluing women to the level of animals or possesions, they would consider them worthy of being brought into the world.

It's not just the Afghans. That entire part of the world treats women as property...

Thing is, if this a-hole had wanted to kill the person responsible for his wife having a daughter, he would have chopped his own head off... Men determine the gender of every child... too bad for his wife he was only shooting girl-baby genes.

Jasvox · 02-06-2012, 08:16 AM - **1 Like**

Killing his wife for not bearing a male child? How very Tudor of him.

Jason

bull drinkwater · 04-11-2012, 01:11 AM

on a cold night he'll wish he had given it more thought,when his son can't find a bride,a oops won't mean much.

kswier · 04-11-2012, 03:59 AM

Originally posted by Parallax

This may come as a shock, but Generals don't make those decisions. The president does.

As it should be. The generals job is to win a war; to stay until the job is done. It is the presidents job to look at broader implications of continuing the war; such as economic implications, impact on foreign relations, etc.

01-30-2012, 12:45 PM	#1
jogiba Banned Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Millstone,NJ Posts: 6,491	Afghan man kills wife for giving birth to daughter Quote: An Afghan man killed his wife for giving birth to a third daughter rather than the son he hoped for, police in Afghanistan's northern Kunduz province said on Monday. Afghan man kills wife for giving birth to daughter \| Reuters If the ahole US Army Generals want to stay there forever then let them stay there with their families but bring our troops home.

01-30-2012, 03:22 PM	#6
jogiba Banned Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Millstone,NJ Posts: 6,491 Original Poster	U.S. generals' Afghanistan pullout advice rejected Quote: The nation's top military officer and its top diplomat made clear Thursday that President Obama rejected the advice of his generals in choosing a quicker path to winding down the war in Afghanistan. The Obama troop withdrawal plan, widely interpreted as marking the beginning of the end of the U.S. combat role in Afghanistan, drew criticism from both sides of the political aisle on Capitol Hill. Some Republicans decried it as undercutting the military mission at a critical stage of the war, while many Democrats called it too timid. Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz., questioned the timing of his troop pullout plan. "Just when they are one year away from turning over a battered and broken enemy in both southern and eastern Afghanistan to our Afghan partners - the president has now decided to deny them the forces that our commanders believe they need to accomplish their objective," McCain said. Obama announced Wednesday night that he will pull 10,000 troops from Afghanistan by December and another 23,000 by the end of next summer. U.S. generals' Afghanistan pullout advice rejected

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Parallax Senior Moderator Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: South Dakota Photos: Gallery Posts: 19,333	Originally posted by jogiba If the ahole US Army Generals want to stay there forever This may come as a shock, but Generals don't make those decisions. The president does.

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boriscleto Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: North Syracuse, NY Photos: Gallery Posts: 16,475	Originally posted by Parallax This may come as a shock, but Generals don't make those decisions. The president does. The Generals advise the President. And for the last 11 years they have advised the President to stay in Afghanistan.

01-30-2012, 01:15 PM - 1 Like	#4
wizofoz Site Supporter Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Melbourne, Outer east. Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 1,695	Cause stuff like this only ever happens in those towel head countries...right? U.S. News - Texas father kills 4 kids, wounds wife in suicidal gun assault

01-30-2012, 01:21 PM	#5
Parallax Senior Moderator Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: South Dakota Photos: Gallery Posts: 19,333	Originally posted by boriscleto The Generals advise the President. And for the last 11 years they have advised the President to stay in Afghanistan. Yes, they advise him, and he can choose to take their advice or not. The current President is, just as Bush was, the Commander in Chief. I am really concerned about North Korea's appointment of the "dear leader", Kim Jung Ill's youngest son to be the new leader of North Korea-- a nuclear power! After all, Kim Jung Un (pronounced Kim's young-un?) had NO military experience whatsoever before daddy made him a four-star general in the military. This is a snot-nose twerp who has never accomplished anything in his life that that would even come close to military leadership: he hasn't even so much as led a cub scout troop, let alone coached a sports team or commanded a military platoon. So, setting that aside, next they make him the "beloved leader" of the country. Terrific!!! Oh, crap! I'm sorry. I just remembered that we did the same thing here, We took a community organizer who has never worn a uniform and made him Commander-in-Chief; a guy who has never led anything more than an ACORN demonstration and made him the leader of this country. Never mind. (oh lighten up! I voted for him, and will again.)

01-30-2012, 04:11 PM	#7
Wheatfield Moderator Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: The wheatfields of Canada Posts: 15,986	Originally posted by jogiba Afghan man kills wife for giving birth to daughter \| Reuters If the ahole US Army Generals want to stay there forever then let them stay there with their families but bring our troops home. Unfortunately, our involvement in Afghanistan dates back to the 1980s and America's insistence on running a proxy war against the old Soviet Union. For good or bad, we've made Afghanistan our problem. We should probably have decided that we didn't like aspects of their culture before we interfered, perhaps we would have stayed home. Or did we just dislike the Russians more.

01-30-2012, 04:15 PM	#8
Parallax Senior Moderator Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: South Dakota Photos: Gallery Posts: 19,333	Originally posted by Wheatfield Or did we just dislike the Russians more. Yep.

01-31-2012, 01:44 PM	#9
ElJamoquio Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Posts: 4,873	Originally posted by Wheatfield Or did we just dislike the Russians more. We didn't give a gosh-darn about the Afghans one way or the other as far as I can recall. It was purely a proxy war.

01-31-2012, 02:12 PM	#10
grhazelton Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Jonesboro, GA Photos: Albums Posts: 1,972	My wife has suggested that we should air-lift all women and children out of Afghanistan, seal the border, and let the wackos fight it out without our aid or interference. Just a thought....

01-31-2012, 02:23 PM	#11
Jonathan Mac Pentaxian Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Madrid, Spain Posts: 10,910	Originally posted by grhazelton My wife has suggested that we should air-lift all women and children out of Afghanistan, seal the border, and let the wackos fight it out without our aid or interference. Just a thought.... Sounds like a plan. Perhaps if Afghan culture stopped devaluing women to the level of animals or possesions, they would consider them worthy of being brought into the world.

02-06-2012, 04:40 AM	#12
MRRiley Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Sterling, VA, USA Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 6,275	Originally posted by Jonathan Mac Sounds like a plan. Perhaps if Afghan culture stopped devaluing women to the level of animals or possesions, they would consider them worthy of being brought into the world. It's not just the Afghans. That entire part of the world treats women as property... Thing is, if this a-hole had wanted to kill the person responsible for his wife having a daughter, he would have chopped his own head off... Men determine the gender of every child... too bad for his wife he was only shooting girl-baby genes.

02-06-2012, 08:16 AM - 1 Like	#13
Jasvox Veteran Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Melbourne, Australia Posts: 3,107	Killing his wife for not bearing a male child? How very Tudor of him. Jason

04-11-2012, 01:11 AM	#14
bull drinkwater Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: pontiac mi. Posts: 392	on a cold night he'll wish he had given it more thought,when his son can't find a bride,a oops won't mean much.

04-11-2012, 03:59 AM	#15
kswier Veteran Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Posts: 426	Originally posted by Parallax This may come as a shock, but Generals don't make those decisions. The president does. As it should be. The generals job is to win a war; to stay until the job is done. It is the presidents job to look at broader implications of continuing the war; such as economic implications, impact on foreign relations, etc.