Should the USA bomb Iceland?

Clavius · 11-27-2012, 07:11 AM - **1 Like**

I read today that Bradley Manning is facing 162 years imprisonment for "aiding the enemy"?!?! Omg, the US imprisoning Manning is exactly like China imprisoning the Dalai Lama.

Exactly how is showing the world how the US troops are killing civilians (including children)for sports/fun in their daily "gun runs", "aiding the enemy"?!

Prosecuting Manning for this is like openly admitting, giving the green light, and even applauding to killing civilians; women and children included.

Medium FormatPro · 11-27-2012, 02:45 PM

Originally posted by Clavius

Manning SHOULD win the peace prize. He pointed the world to where the terrorists are

That the real enemy is not a place such as Iraq. The real enemy is the united states federal government - in full control of the surfs

GeneV · 11-27-2012, 03:32 PM

Originally posted by Medium FormatPro

That the real enemy is not a place such as Iraq. The real enemy is the united states federal government - in full control of the surfs

If our government truly controlled the "surfs" it would be a government of gods and beach bums.

(Sorry. I couldn't resist)

GeneV · 11-27-2012, 03:41 PM - **2 Likes**

Originally posted by Clavius

I read today that Bradley Manning is facing 162 years imprisonment for "aiding the enemy"?!?! Omg, the US imprisoning Manning is exactly like China imprisoning the Dalai Lama.

Exactly how is showing the world how the US troops are killing civilians (including children)for sports/fun in their daily "gun runs", "aiding the enemy"?!

Prosecuting Manning for this is like openly admitting, giving the green light, and even applauding to killing civilians; women and children included.

Prosecuting Assange might raise some of those questions, but Manning was a soldier. He was charged by law with following orders and protecting the property and information of his government. Soldiers have a special duty and can be prosecuted for not following orders and many other things which do not apply to civilians. There are 22 charges against Manning, and aiding the enemy is just one of them. He has actually offered to admit to many of the other charges.

I'm not saying all of the charges are valid, but as a United States soldier who admits violating his oath and his duty, Manning is not the Dalai Lama. I may be wrong, but I don't think the Dalai Lama volunteered to serve in the Chinese army.

Last edited by GeneV; 11-28-2012 at 07:38 AM.

**dadipentak** · 11-27-2012, 04:48 PM

Geologically speaking, Iceland is a bomb.

reeftool · 11-27-2012, 11:13 PM - **1 Like**

There is a whole different rule set in the military that you agree to abide by when you enlist and Bradley Manning knew that. It's not the same thing as the Dali Lama. Foreign governments may applaud him or even give him an award. He still committed treason and got caught. Don't do the crime if you can't do the time.

Medium FormatPro · 11-28-2012, 03:35 AM

Even though the united states federal government does have the ability to monitor most forms of communication: I'll go ahead and admit it.

I very much support both Bradley Manning and WikiLeaks; basically from the start - and even before both of them became public names. Although with all of the government restrictions in funding either, it is getting somewhat more difficult to do so. Plus… I also take a personal interest in knowing exactly where some of the information is held; most of which has never yet been released by WikiLeaks.

GeneV · 11-28-2012, 07:57 AM

Those who applaud disclosure of embarrassing government documents really should think about what you are saying when you support Manning. Criminal conduct aside, how can a military function if a 22 year old Private decides which classified documents to which he has access are and which are not really secret and which will and won't really put others in danger? Even if you think he got it right this time (dubious), do you really applaud that kind of decision being made by an immature, inexperienced "whistleblower?" If Manning is not punished, how many will die because the next kid decides he knows better than his superior officers?

**newmikey** · 11-28-2012, 08:05 AM

It would be very foolish for anyone to bomb Iceland. First of all, they have natural missile/bomb defences: they can activate the geysers which will blow any incoming back to the plane that dropped it with a big WHHOOOOSHHHHH! Second, it is an island: if you p!ss them off too much they will row it over to the US and activate their volcanoes...Third, Chef Gordon caught, cooked and ate a bird on one of its rocky shores, now let thàt be a lesson to all of you imperialist pigs!

Whatever the strength of your armed forces: stay away from Iceland, it's suicide to attack it.

D0n · 11-28-2012, 09:00 AM

Clavius · 11-28-2012, 02:24 PM

Originally posted by reeftool

There is a whole different rule set in the military that you agree to abide by when you enlist and Bradley Manning knew that. It's not the same thing as the Dali Lama. Foreign governments may applaud him or even give him an award. He still committed treason and got caught. Don't do the crime if you can't do the time.

The Russian and Italian organised crime has a whole different rule set too. New members surely are aware of that culture before they join. Members that fail to comply are severely punished for treason. But that still doesn't make the crimes of that organisation ethical, legal or righteous. Anybody joining such organisations and exposing their wrongdoings is a hero in my eyes.

Tom S. · 11-28-2012, 03:27 PM

Originally posted by Clavius

The Russian and Italian organised crime has a whole different rule set too. New members surely are aware of that culture before they join. Members that fail to comply are severely punished for treason. But that still doesn't make the crimes of that organisation ethical, legal or righteous. Anybody joining such organisations and exposing their wrongdoings is a hero in my eyes.

Even if that exposure leads to someone's death?

**Ex Finn.** · 11-28-2012, 04:32 PM

Originally posted by ihasa

Should the USA bomb Iceland?

Why on earth, would anyone want to bomb them, the Nobel thing is overrated, no matter how you slice it.
And, after the bombing, if the crust of the earth was still intact

, would follow the ground war... How would our non-traitor soldiers deal with this.

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GeneV · 11-28-2012, 05:59 PM

Originally posted by Tom S.

Even if that exposure leads to someone's death?

Well, Tom, you have to understand that in his eyes, it would most likely be the death of someone else in the Mafia.

Blue · 11-28-2012, 06:11 PM

Originally posted by Ex Finn.

Why on earth, would anyone want to bomb them, the Nobel thing is overrated, no matter how you slice it.
And, after the bombing, if the crust of the earth was still intact

, would follow the ground war... How would our non-traitor soldiers deal with this.
. . .

If anyone was going to do that, it would have done by the Soviets when the U.S. Navy had the Blue and Gold crews taking Tridents between their base in Georgia and their base in Iceland. From WWII until just a few years ago, U.S. forces protected Iceland from being bombed.

11-27-2012, 03:32 PM	#18
GeneV Veteran Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Albuquerque NM Photos: Albums Posts: 9,830	Originally posted by Medium FormatPro That the real enemy is not a place such as Iraq. The real enemy is the united states federal government - in full control of the surfs If our government truly controlled the "surfs" it would be a government of gods and beach bums. (Sorry. I couldn't resist) Last edited by GeneV; 11-27-2012 at 03:42 PM.

11-28-2012, 06:11 PM	#30
Blue Moderator Site Supporter Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Florida Hill Country Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 17,377	Originally posted by Ex Finn. Why on earth, would anyone want to bomb them, the Nobel thing is overrated, no matter how you slice it. And, after the bombing, if the crust of the earth was still intact, would follow the ground war... How would our non-traitor soldiers deal with this. . . . If anyone was going to do that, it would have done by the Soviets when the U.S. Navy had the Blue and Gold crews taking Tridents between their base in Georgia and their base in Iceland. From WWII until just a few years ago, U.S. forces protected Iceland from being bombed.

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11-27-2012, 07:11 AM - 1 Like	#16
Clavius Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: De Klundert Photos: Gallery Posts: 4,150	I read today that Bradley Manning is facing 162 years imprisonment for "aiding the enemy"?!?! Omg, the US imprisoning Manning is exactly like China imprisoning the Dalai Lama. Exactly how is showing the world how the US troops are killing civilians (including children)for sports/fun in their daily "gun runs", "aiding the enemy"?! Prosecuting Manning for this is like openly admitting, giving the green light, and even applauding to killing civilians; women and children included.

11-27-2012, 02:45 PM	#17
Medium FormatPro Banned Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Charleston & Pittsburgh Photos: Albums Posts: 1,668	Originally posted by Clavius Manning SHOULD win the peace prize. He pointed the world to where the terrorists are That the real enemy is not a place such as Iraq. The real enemy is the united states federal government - in full control of the surfs

11-27-2012, 03:41 PM - 2 Likes	#19
GeneV Veteran Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Albuquerque NM Photos: Albums Posts: 9,830	Originally posted by Clavius I read today that Bradley Manning is facing 162 years imprisonment for "aiding the enemy"?!?! Omg, the US imprisoning Manning is exactly like China imprisoning the Dalai Lama. Exactly how is showing the world how the US troops are killing civilians (including children)for sports/fun in their daily "gun runs", "aiding the enemy"?! Prosecuting Manning for this is like openly admitting, giving the green light, and even applauding to killing civilians; women and children included. Prosecuting Assange might raise some of those questions, but Manning was a soldier. He was charged by law with following orders and protecting the property and information of his government. Soldiers have a special duty and can be prosecuted for not following orders and many other things which do not apply to civilians. There are 22 charges against Manning, and aiding the enemy is just one of them. He has actually offered to admit to many of the other charges. I'm not saying all of the charges are valid, but as a United States soldier who admits violating his oath and his duty, Manning is not the Dalai Lama. I may be wrong, but I don't think the Dalai Lama volunteered to serve in the Chinese army. Last edited by GeneV; 11-28-2012 at 07:38 AM.

11-27-2012, 04:48 PM	#20
dadipentak Site Supporter Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Baltimore, Maryland Photos: Gallery Posts: 11,590	Geologically speaking, Iceland is a bomb.

11-27-2012, 11:13 PM - 1 Like	#21
reeftool Pentaxian Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Upstate New York Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 9,555	There is a whole different rule set in the military that you agree to abide by when you enlist and Bradley Manning knew that. It's not the same thing as the Dali Lama. Foreign governments may applaud him or even give him an award. He still committed treason and got caught. Don't do the crime if you can't do the time.

11-28-2012, 03:35 AM	#22
Medium FormatPro Banned Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Charleston & Pittsburgh Photos: Albums Posts: 1,668	Even though the united states federal government does have the ability to monitor most forms of communication: I'll go ahead and admit it. I very much support both Bradley Manning and WikiLeaks; basically from the start - and even before both of them became public names. Although with all of the government restrictions in funding either, it is getting somewhat more difficult to do so. Plus… I also take a personal interest in knowing exactly where some of the information is held; most of which has never yet been released by WikiLeaks.

11-28-2012, 07:57 AM	#23
GeneV Veteran Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Albuquerque NM Photos: Albums Posts: 9,830	Those who applaud disclosure of embarrassing government documents really should think about what you are saying when you support Manning. Criminal conduct aside, how can a military function if a 22 year old Private decides which classified documents to which he has access are and which are not really secret and which will and won't really put others in danger? Even if you think he got it right this time (dubious), do you really applaud that kind of decision being made by an immature, inexperienced "whistleblower?" If Manning is not punished, how many will die because the next kid decides he knows better than his superior officers?

11-28-2012, 08:05 AM	#24
newmikey Site Supporter Join Date: May 2007 Photos: Gallery Posts: 2,289	It would be very foolish for anyone to bomb Iceland. First of all, they have natural missile/bomb defences: they can activate the geysers which will blow any incoming back to the plane that dropped it with a big WHHOOOOSHHHHH! Second, it is an island: if you p!ss them off too much they will row it over to the US and activate their volcanoes...Third, Chef Gordon caught, cooked and ate a bird on one of its rocky shores, now let thàt be a lesson to all of you imperialist pigs! Whatever the strength of your armed forces: stay away from Iceland, it's suicide to attack it.

11-28-2012, 09:00 AM	#25
D0n Banned Join Date: Jan 2012 Posts: 530

11-28-2012, 02:24 PM	#26
Clavius Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: De Klundert Photos: Gallery Posts: 4,150	Originally posted by reeftool There is a whole different rule set in the military that you agree to abide by when you enlist and Bradley Manning knew that. It's not the same thing as the Dali Lama. Foreign governments may applaud him or even give him an award. He still committed treason and got caught. Don't do the crime if you can't do the time. The Russian and Italian organised crime has a whole different rule set too. New members surely are aware of that culture before they join. Members that fail to comply are severely punished for treason. But that still doesn't make the crimes of that organisation ethical, legal or righteous. Anybody joining such organisations and exposing their wrongdoings is a hero in my eyes.

11-28-2012, 03:27 PM	#27
Tom S. Veteran Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: S.E. Michigan Photos: Albums Posts: 4,317	Originally posted by Clavius The Russian and Italian organised crime has a whole different rule set too. New members surely are aware of that culture before they join. Members that fail to comply are severely punished for treason. But that still doesn't make the crimes of that organisation ethical, legal or righteous. Anybody joining such organisations and exposing their wrongdoings is a hero in my eyes. Even if that exposure leads to someone's death?

11-28-2012, 05:59 PM	#29
GeneV Veteran Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Albuquerque NM Photos: Albums Posts: 9,830	Originally posted by Tom S. Even if that exposure leads to someone's death? Well, Tom, you have to understand that in his eyes, it would most likely be the death of someone else in the Mafia.