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Wheatfield · 03-27-2012, 11:57 PM

Originally posted by ihasa

If they get rid of Medicare the health outcome stats for various diseases will be even better. The people who die untreated will not appear in the statistics! Except life expectancy of course.This may even be having an effect on the stats even now.

I suspect that a lot of the "statistics" that are being bandied about are ignoring this very simple fact.

GeneV · 03-28-2012, 06:31 AM

Originally posted by redrockcoulee

Winder

You are right one cannot judge Canada' system as it is only 60 years old. Free enterprise is the only system that has no flaws. Americans have the world's best health care and only lazy fat people get sick and they deserve it. Socialism is evil and freedom is the opposite. And you cannot be free if the government provides it like police or fire, everyone pays for that.

The solution to get rid of Medicare and Medicad and then the US will be the envy of the world and your health care costs will drop to the cheapest of the developed world. ....

True, get rid of Medicaid, and now you will remove all those poor babies from the system. They will go to midwives which Winder loves (and without regulation of quality) with unrecorded survival rates.

The differences between Canada's statistics and those in the U.S. are actually not that significant, even in wait times. I bet we could have the quickest wait times in the world by eliminating all insurance and having only rich people use the services.

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03-27-2012, 11:57 PM	#211
Wheatfield Moderator Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: The wheatfields of Canada Posts: 15,981	Originally posted by ihasa If they get rid of Medicare the health outcome stats for various diseases will be even better. The people who die untreated will not appear in the statistics! Except life expectancy of course.This may even be having an effect on the stats even now. I suspect that a lot of the "statistics" that are being bandied about are ignoring this very simple fact.

03-28-2012, 06:31 AM	#212
GeneV Veteran Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Albuquerque NM Photos: Albums Posts: 9,830	Originally posted by redrockcoulee Winder You are right one cannot judge Canada' system as it is only 60 years old. Free enterprise is the only system that has no flaws. Americans have the world's best health care and only lazy fat people get sick and they deserve it. Socialism is evil and freedom is the opposite. And you cannot be free if the government provides it like police or fire, everyone pays for that. The solution to get rid of Medicare and Medicad and then the US will be the envy of the world and your health care costs will drop to the cheapest of the developed world. .... True, get rid of Medicaid, and now you will remove all those poor babies from the system. They will go to midwives which Winder loves (and without regulation of quality) with unrecorded survival rates. The differences between Canada's statistics and those in the U.S. are actually not that significant, even in wait times. I bet we could have the quickest wait times in the world by eliminating all insurance and having only rich people use the services.