State agencies, colleges demand applicants' Facebook passwords

MRRiley · 03-06-2012, 05:46 AM

Red Tape - State agencies, colleges demand applicants' Facebook passwords

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If you think privacy settings on your Facebook and Twitter accounts guarantee future employers or schools can't see your private posts, guess again.

Employers and colleges find the treasure-trove of personal information hiding behind password-protected accounts and privacy walls just too tempting, and increasingly, they are demanding full access from applicants and students.

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Just one more reason to retire... 1984 here we come... thoughtcrime... facebookcrime... twittercrime...

Last edited by MRRiley; 03-06-2012 at 06:03 AM.

Coeurdechene · 03-06-2012, 06:15 AM

??
Damn! they just got no shame...and people do not wise up!
Facebook, cellphones, cameras everywhere...the electronic leash is there for those who want to use it...and people are servile enough not to enrage and give them what they deserve.

Wheatfield · 03-06-2012, 06:44 AM

It's certainly a good reason to hide behind anonymous usernames on websites and to stay away from social networking sites.

Parallax · 03-06-2012, 11:16 AM

I don't have a Facebook or Twitter account.
I wonder if the next step to requiring you to provide passwords is to just deny your application if you don't have an account.

Wheatfield · 03-06-2012, 11:56 AM

Originally posted by Parallax

I don't have a Facebook or Twitter account.
I wonder if the next step to requiring you to provide passwords is to just deny your application if you don't have an account.

They would probably just assume you are lying.

**grhazelton** · 03-06-2012, 02:39 PM

I'm afraid that a lot of young folk will find there a**es in the proverbial sling because of some of the really foolish stuff floating around in the ether. I don't have Facebook or Twitter, only Flickr. The old mantra was never put anything in an email you wouldn't put on a public bulletin board, but by comparison emails seem fortresses of security.

The link was interesting, appalling. I think a court challenge is in order. Let's see, first amendment, prohibition on self-incrimination.... Any lawyers out there care to weigh in?

Why do so many seem to feel it is essential to share every foolish detail of their lives? How many "friends" does any one person need? Would a Facebook "friend" bring you jumper cables when you're stranded 10 miles away in a rainstorm? I did for Joe, because I knew he'd to the same for me. That's a friend,

JinDesu · 03-06-2012, 02:45 PM

Originally posted by grhazelton

I'm afraid that a lot of young folk will find there a**es in the proverbial sling because of some of the really foolish stuff floating around in the ether. I don't have Facebook or Twitter, only Flickr. The old mantra was never put anything in an email you wouldn't put on a public bulletin board, but by comparison emails seem fortresses of security.

The link was interesting, appalling. I think a court challenge is in order. Let's see, first amendment, prohibition on self-incrimination.... Any lawyers out there care to weigh in?

Why do so many seem to feel it is essential to share every foolish detail of their lives? How many "friends" does any one person need? Would a Facebook "friend" bring you jumper cables when you're stranded 10 miles away in a rainstorm? I did for Joe, because I knew he'd to the same for me. That's a friend,

If any employer or school asked me to share with them my password or even to look over my shoulder while I log into my facebook, I would tell them a flatout no and ask them how they thought my right of privacy would not come up.

My understanding of this law there's two views. The first is for employers to make sure you aren't maligning them or giving them a bad image on your facebook. This falls in line with the employers who try to friend you under a fake account. The second is for employers to view your past history to make sure you are in line with their image of you - and this is completely inappropriate for anyone to do.

jolepp · 03-06-2012, 04:24 PM

One aspect that is implied but not explicitly stated in the article is that this practice exposes third parties (i.e. Facebook 'friends') to monitoring without their consent or knowledge.

Ratmagiclady · 03-06-2012, 04:40 PM

This is an absolute violation of privacy (not to mention intellectual property) ...but I have always wondered... Will everybody saying everything on social media finally get the corporate world over the idea that *anybody* is 'normal' or related to the standards they judge by?

**NeatKnight** · 03-07-2012, 07:03 AM

Sad, but I think I would either have two accounts or just live without Facebook.

GeneV · 03-07-2012, 08:07 AM

Originally posted by jolepp

One aspect that is implied but not explicitly stated in the article is that this practice exposes third parties (i.e. Facebook 'friends') to monitoring without their consent or knowledge.

Good point. That aspect could be the death of FB.

Ratmagiclady · 03-07-2012, 08:27 AM

Originally posted by GeneV

Good point. That aspect could be the death of FB.

As well as suppressing communication between people. Even the corporate snooping we already have is more likely to have a chilling effect on points of view not in keeping with corporate agendas... demanding passwords is like demanding a key to your house or even a copy of your diary. Yeah, the Net's not secure, but there are still certain expectations of privacy... even control, (What's to stop people from adding, editing, or deleting anything, anyway, never mind looking at more-private conversations... ) that this blows way past....

MRRiley · 03-08-2012, 03:48 PM

I believe Facebook has indicated that the practice violates their "Terms of Service"

Ratmagiclady · 03-08-2012, 05:15 PM

Originally posted by MRRiley

I believe Facebook has indicated that the practice violates their "Terms of Service"

(subject to change without notice)

pingflood · 03-10-2012, 02:18 PM

Originally posted by MRRiley

I believe Facebook has indicated that the practice violates their "Terms of Service"

Oh, that IS rich.

03-06-2012, 05:46 AM	#1
MRRiley Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Sterling, VA, USA Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 6,275	State agencies, colleges demand applicants' Facebook passwords Red Tape - State agencies, colleges demand applicants' Facebook passwords Quote: If you think privacy settings on your Facebook and Twitter accounts guarantee future employers or schools can't see your private posts, guess again. Employers and colleges find the treasure-trove of personal information hiding behind password-protected accounts and privacy walls just too tempting, and increasingly, they are demanding full access from applicants and students. .... Just one more reason to retire... 1984 here we come... thoughtcrime... facebookcrime... twittercrime... Last edited by MRRiley; 03-06-2012 at 06:03 AM.

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03-06-2012, 06:15 AM	#2
Coeurdechene Veteran Member Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: madrid Photos: Albums Posts: 833	?? Damn! they just got no shame...and people do not wise up! Facebook, cellphones, cameras everywhere...the electronic leash is there for those who want to use it...and people are servile enough not to enrage and give them what they deserve.

03-06-2012, 06:44 AM	#3
Wheatfield Moderator Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: The wheatfields of Canada Posts: 15,981	It's certainly a good reason to hide behind anonymous usernames on websites and to stay away from social networking sites.

03-06-2012, 11:16 AM	#4
Parallax Senior Moderator Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: South Dakota Photos: Gallery Posts: 19,332	I don't have a Facebook or Twitter account. I wonder if the next step to requiring you to provide passwords is to just deny your application if you don't have an account.

03-06-2012, 11:56 AM	#5
Wheatfield Moderator Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: The wheatfields of Canada Posts: 15,981	Originally posted by Parallax I don't have a Facebook or Twitter account. I wonder if the next step to requiring you to provide passwords is to just deny your application if you don't have an account. They would probably just assume you are lying.

03-06-2012, 02:39 PM	#6
grhazelton Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Jonesboro, GA Photos: Albums Posts: 1,972	I'm afraid that a lot of young folk will find there aes in the proverbial sling because of some of the really foolish stuff floating around in the ether. I don't have Facebook or Twitter, only Flickr. The old mantra was never put anything in an email you wouldn't put on a public bulletin board, but by comparison emails seem fortresses of security. The link was interesting, appalling. I think a court challenge is in order. Let's see, first amendment, prohibition on self-incrimination.... Any lawyers out there care to weigh in? Why do so many seem to feel it is essential to share every foolish detail of their lives? How many "friends" does any one person need? Would a Facebook "friend" bring you jumper cables when you're stranded 10 miles away in a rainstorm? I did for Joe, because I knew he'd to the same for me. That's a friend,**

03-06-2012, 02:45 PM	#7
JinDesu Veteran Member Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: New York City Photos: Gallery Posts: 5,638	Originally posted by grhazelton I'm afraid that a lot of young folk will find there aes in the proverbial sling because of some of the really foolish stuff floating around in the ether. I don't have Facebook or Twitter, only Flickr. The old mantra was never put anything in an email you wouldn't put on a public bulletin board, but by comparison emails seem fortresses of security. The link was interesting, appalling. I think a court challenge is in order. Let's see, first amendment, prohibition on self-incrimination.... Any lawyers out there care to weigh in? Why do so many seem to feel it is essential to share every foolish detail of their lives? How many "friends" does any one person need? Would a Facebook "friend" bring you jumper cables when you're stranded 10 miles away in a rainstorm? I did for Joe, because I knew he'd to the same for me. That's a friend,** If any employer or school asked me to share with them my password or even to look over my shoulder while I log into my facebook, I would tell them a flatout no and ask them how they thought my right of privacy would not come up. My understanding of this law there's two views. The first is for employers to make sure you aren't maligning them or giving them a bad image on your facebook. This falls in line with the employers who try to friend you under a fake account. The second is for employers to view your past history to make sure you are in line with their image of you - and this is completely inappropriate for anyone to do.

03-06-2012, 04:24 PM	#8
jolepp Veteran Member Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Finland Photos: Albums Posts: 3,196	One aspect that is implied but not explicitly stated in the article is that this practice exposes third parties (i.e. Facebook 'friends') to monitoring without their consent or knowledge.

03-06-2012, 04:40 PM	#9
Ratmagiclady Veteran Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: GA Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 13,563	This is an absolute violation of privacy (not to mention intellectual property) ...but I have always wondered... Will everybody saying everything on social media finally get the corporate world over the idea that anybody is 'normal' or related to the standards they judge by?

03-07-2012, 07:03 AM	#10
NeatKnight Site Supporter Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Hollywood,FL Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 95	Sad, but I think I would either have two accounts or just live without Facebook.

03-07-2012, 08:07 AM	#11
GeneV Veteran Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Albuquerque NM Photos: Albums Posts: 9,830	Originally posted by jolepp One aspect that is implied but not explicitly stated in the article is that this practice exposes third parties (i.e. Facebook 'friends') to monitoring without their consent or knowledge. Good point. That aspect could be the death of FB.

03-07-2012, 08:27 AM	#12
Ratmagiclady Veteran Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: GA Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 13,563	Originally posted by GeneV Good point. That aspect could be the death of FB. As well as suppressing communication between people. Even the corporate snooping we already have is more likely to have a chilling effect on points of view not in keeping with corporate agendas... demanding passwords is like demanding a key to your house or even a copy of your diary. Yeah, the Net's not secure, but there are still certain expectations of privacy... even control, (What's to stop people from adding, editing, or deleting anything, anyway, never mind looking at more-private conversations... ) that this blows way past....

03-08-2012, 03:48 PM	#13
MRRiley Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Sterling, VA, USA Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 6,275 Original Poster	I believe Facebook has indicated that the practice violates their "Terms of Service"

03-08-2012, 05:15 PM	#14
Ratmagiclady Veteran Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: GA Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 13,563	Originally posted by MRRiley I believe Facebook has indicated that the practice violates their "Terms of Service" (subject to change without notice)

03-10-2012, 02:18 PM	#15
pingflood Veteran Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Borås, Sweden Photos: Gallery Posts: 3,169	Originally posted by MRRiley I believe Facebook has indicated that the practice violates their "Terms of Service" Oh, that IS rich.