Which would you choose ...

borno · 01-12-2008, 05:41 PM

Originally posted by J.Scott

Not this Leica you wouldn't - it is a digital Leica.

no kidding

J.Scott · 01-12-2008, 06:23 PM

Sorry

I wasn't sure if you understood. I apologize.

borno · 01-12-2008, 07:32 PM

No apology necessary, I should say if I had a leica it would be a film camera. My boss said he had an old one he would give me, but I haven't seen it yet.

Kaimarx · 01-13-2008, 03:40 AM

Assuming i could keep my current camera as well i wouldnt mind the leica....I'd love to have a pocketable camera in that class of imaging and interchangeable lenses. Rangefinders may not be the most practical camera but at the moment no one else is revisting the golden age of manual photography....with every camera upgrade and ground breaking feature the new dslr's are slowly turning into oversized point and shooters, perhaps even camcorders if some future speculations are to be believed. Kind of takes the fun and joy away from the image taking process imho.

Last edited by Kaimarx; 01-13-2008 at 03:46 AM.

christinelandon · 01-16-2008, 04:06 AM

If I had to choose under your stipulations, I'd go with the D3 for two reasons:
1) I prefer SLR handling and viewfinders over those characteristics of rangefinders; and
2) Buying top Nikon glass would make me a permanently poor woman, while buying top Leica glass would leave nothing but a smoldering crater where my purse once was!

Finn · 01-16-2008, 08:26 PM

Leica all the way. You'll never see me carrying a behemoth like that Nikon. Leicas have stood the test of time because they are small, quiet, and insanely well made. Sure, they've garnered a luxury market following, but it isn't for no reason. Best walkaround cameras ever.

The Maybach of cameras? Hardly. Maybachs are huge, ungainly things that shout conspicuous consumption. Leicas sit quietly out of the way, because they don't need to advertise their superiority to the world.

That said, the M8 isn't all that great -- the lenses are too close to the sensor, so A LOT of on-board processing has to occur to avoid horrible vignetting. Give me an MP and a slide scanner instead.

**Lowell Goudge** · 01-16-2008, 08:36 PM

can I say neither, I would rather have a 600mm F4!

would be about the same price range for the one in the forum 2 weeks ago

Nesster · 01-17-2008, 07:37 AM

Depends: which one can I sell for more used? I'd use the $$ to buy a semi-vintage film Leica and a couple of lenses. And/or a mint Rollei, or Mamya 6, or...

J.Scott · 01-17-2008, 10:43 AM

Originally posted by Lowell Goudge

can I say neither, I would rather have a 600mm F4!

would be about the same price range for the one in the forum 2 weeks ago

Quote:

If your choice is neither - well, that is not an option! To participate in this poll you have to choose one or the other - period! (My poll - my rules! )

Yeesh! Read the fine print T.O. boy!

(How 'bout those Leafs, eh? - Wow, what a team they are this season, huh?!)

**Lowell Goudge** · 01-17-2008, 11:47 AM

Originally posted by J.Scott

Yeesh! Read the fine print T.O. boy!

(How 'bout those Leafs, eh? - Wow, what a team they are this season, huh?!)

I Know, I KNOW! your poll your rules no argument there, I guess by default (god I hate saying this) I would take the nikon and then sell it

re "how 'bout those Leafs, eh?"

Leafs? What Leafs? I have given up on them totally, I used to think that they wouldn't win the cup until the next centuary, while it came and went and my impression remains, it's just moved 100 years out

drivel · 01-17-2008, 11:55 AM

I shot with a Leica m3 and Nikon FM2 and N90s for years. I'm an old film leftover until i got my K10D recently.

I don't think you can really look at it as D3 vs. Leica.

I have always felt having a slr(s) and rangefinders and complementary. They both have different uses for different subject matter. If you need a quiet camera that is inconspicuous and you are happy with leica's prime lenses or vari lenses by all means it is the camera for you. If you need zoom lenses, telephoto lenses or do macro work an slr is going to be the best choice.

Since you have a K10D, are you happy with that being your slr? Does the Nikon system offer something that you need? If you are searching for the highest IQ the D3 is going to offer it.

I would choose the Leica, keep my K10D and use them both.

If Pentax would make a rangefinder for use with their limited lenses, life would be a lot easier

**Eaglerapids** · 01-17-2008, 06:59 PM

Thanks for that link GaryML, a very nice article. Did anybody see the pictures that guy posted? After reading it I'm going with the Leica because if I had a Leica I think I'd be cool for the first time in my life! The thing is a jewel.

heatherslightbox · 01-23-2008, 07:41 PM

Originally posted by Kaimarx

Assuming i could keep my current camera as well i wouldnt mind the leica....I'd love to have a pocketable camera in that class of imaging and interchangeable lenses.

I'm with you there. I wouldn't mind putting that Leica up against my Canon G7 for an IQ test. I'd be curious to see who does better. For the price, Canon's G series is pretty darn good.

Heather

aarathi · 01-24-2008, 04:15 AM

I like Nikon D3. It's becoming a favourite among wildlife photographers. The D3 is all about speed and sensitivity, twelve megapixels on a big CMOS chip means large photosites and that adds up to base sensitivity of ISO 200 to 6400 with an additional two stop boost over that .

View Poll Results: Which Would You Choose?
Leica M8	21	41.18%
Nikon D3	30	58.82%
Voters: 51. You may not vote on this poll

01-17-2008, 11:47 AM	#25
Lowell Goudge Site Supporter Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Toronto Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 17,886	Originally posted by J.Scott Yeesh! Read the fine print T.O. boy! (How 'bout those Leafs, eh? - Wow, what a team they are this season, huh?!) I Know, I KNOW! your poll your rules no argument there, I guess by default (god I hate saying this) I would take the nikon and then sell it re "how 'bout those Leafs, eh?" Leafs? What Leafs? I have given up on them totally, I used to think that they wouldn't win the cup until the next centuary, while it came and went and my impression remains, it's just moved 100 years out Last edited by Lowell Goudge; 01-17-2008 at 12:04 PM.

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01-12-2008, 05:41 PM	#16
borno Veteran Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: md-usa Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 2,580	Originally posted by J.Scott Not this Leica you wouldn't - it is a digital Leica. no kidding

01-12-2008, 06:23 PM	#17
J.Scott Inactive Account Join Date: Mar 2007 Photos: Gallery Posts: 3,675 Original Poster	Sorry I wasn't sure if you understood. I apologize.

01-12-2008, 07:32 PM	#18
borno Veteran Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: md-usa Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 2,580	No apology necessary, I should say if I had a leica it would be a film camera. My boss said he had an old one he would give me, but I haven't seen it yet.

01-13-2008, 03:40 AM	#19
Kaimarx Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Auckland Photos: Gallery Posts: 452	Assuming i could keep my current camera as well i wouldnt mind the leica....I'd love to have a pocketable camera in that class of imaging and interchangeable lenses. Rangefinders may not be the most practical camera but at the moment no one else is revisting the golden age of manual photography....with every camera upgrade and ground breaking feature the new dslr's are slowly turning into oversized point and shooters, perhaps even camcorders if some future speculations are to be believed. Kind of takes the fun and joy away from the image taking process imho. Last edited by Kaimarx; 01-13-2008 at 03:46 AM.

01-16-2008, 04:06 AM	#20
christinelandon Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Seattle, Washington, USA Photos: Gallery Posts: 812	If I had to choose under your stipulations, I'd go with the D3 for two reasons: 1) I prefer SLR handling and viewfinders over those characteristics of rangefinders; and 2) Buying top Nikon glass would make me a permanently poor woman, while buying top Leica glass would leave nothing but a smoldering crater where my purse once was!

01-16-2008, 08:26 PM	#21
Finn Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Phoenix Photos: Gallery Posts: 1,056	Leica all the way. You'll never see me carrying a behemoth like that Nikon. Leicas have stood the test of time because they are small, quiet, and insanely well made. Sure, they've garnered a luxury market following, but it isn't for no reason. Best walkaround cameras ever. The Maybach of cameras? Hardly. Maybachs are huge, ungainly things that shout conspicuous consumption. Leicas sit quietly out of the way, because they don't need to advertise their superiority to the world. That said, the M8 isn't all that great -- the lenses are too close to the sensor, so A LOT of on-board processing has to occur to avoid horrible vignetting. Give me an MP and a slide scanner instead.

01-16-2008, 08:36 PM	#22
Lowell Goudge Site Supporter Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Toronto Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 17,886	can I say neither, I would rather have a 600mm F4! would be about the same price range for the one in the forum 2 weeks ago

01-17-2008, 07:37 AM	#23
Nesster Veteran Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: NJ USA Photos: Gallery Posts: 13,072	Depends: which one can I sell for more used? I'd use the $$ to buy a semi-vintage film Leica and a couple of lenses. And/or a mint Rollei, or Mamya 6, or...

01-17-2008, 10:43 AM	#24
J.Scott Inactive Account Join Date: Mar 2007 Photos: Gallery Posts: 3,675 Original Poster	Originally posted by Lowell Goudge can I say neither, I would rather have a 600mm F4! would be about the same price range for the one in the forum 2 weeks ago Quote: If your choice is neither - well, that is not an option! To participate in this poll you have to choose one or the other - period! (My poll - my rules! ) Yeesh! Read the fine print T.O. boy! (How 'bout those Leafs, eh? - Wow, what a team they are this season, huh?!)

01-17-2008, 11:55 AM	#26
drivel Forum Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Philadelphia, PA Posts: 65	I shot with a Leica m3 and Nikon FM2 and N90s for years. I'm an old film leftover until i got my K10D recently. I don't think you can really look at it as D3 vs. Leica. I have always felt having a slr(s) and rangefinders and complementary. They both have different uses for different subject matter. If you need a quiet camera that is inconspicuous and you are happy with leica's prime lenses or vari lenses by all means it is the camera for you. If you need zoom lenses, telephoto lenses or do macro work an slr is going to be the best choice. Since you have a K10D, are you happy with that being your slr? Does the Nikon system offer something that you need? If you are searching for the highest IQ the D3 is going to offer it. I would choose the Leica, keep my K10D and use them both. If Pentax would make a rangefinder for use with their limited lenses, life would be a lot easier

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01-17-2008, 06:59 PM	#27
Eaglerapids Site Supporter Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Idaho,USA Photos: Gallery Posts: 1,619	Thanks for that link GaryML, a very nice article. Did anybody see the pictures that guy posted? After reading it I'm going with the Leica because if I had a Leica I think I'd be cool for the first time in my life! The thing is a jewel.

01-23-2008, 07:41 PM	#28
heatherslightbox Veteran Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Gainesville, FL Photos: Gallery Posts: 2,599	Originally posted by Kaimarx Assuming i could keep my current camera as well i wouldnt mind the leica....I'd love to have a pocketable camera in that class of imaging and interchangeable lenses. I'm with you there. I wouldn't mind putting that Leica up against my Canon G7 for an IQ test. I'd be curious to see who does better. For the price, Canon's G series is pretty darn good. Heather

01-24-2008, 04:15 AM	#29
aarathi Inactive Account Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: ernakulam, kerala Posts: 10	I like Nikon D3. It's becoming a favourite among wildlife photographers. The D3 is all about speed and sensitivity, twelve megapixels on a big CMOS chip means large photosites and that adds up to base sensitivity of ISO 200 to 6400 with an additional two stop boost over that .