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04-26-2012, 06:24 AM   #1
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Obama's Cracker Jack Solicitor General

I thought the democrats were supposed to be the party of trial lawyers but this Don Verrilli guy is the best they could find. He seems to have struck out so far on both defending the ACA and opposing Arizona's immigration law.

The only thing I can think of is that both of these laws are really bad for trial lawyers' business since more people being insured might mean fewer accident and personal injury cases with smaller paydays and the immigration laws probably forces a good number of illegals to beat a path to their doors to try and fight deportation or find a way to stay in the country.

You might want to be careful if Obama gets re-elected and this guy stays on the job... the pro-lifers can probably smell the weakness of this guy.

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QuoteOriginally posted by mikemike Quote
I thought the democrats were supposed to be the party of trial lawyers but this Don Verrilli guy is the best they could find. He seems to have struck out so far on both defending the ACA and opposing Arizona's immigration law.

The only thing I can think of is that both of these laws are really bad for trial lawyers' business since more people being insured might mean fewer accident and personal injury cases with smaller paydays and the immigration laws probably forces a good number of illegals to beat a path to their doors to try and fight deportation or find a way to stay in the country.

You might want to be careful if Obama gets re-elected and this guy stays on the job... the pro-lifers can probably smell the weakness of this guy.
Legal prowess cannot fight dogma..........

I literally am starting to fear for the sanity of this country..............
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Against a sitting judge like Scalia, no lawyer has much of a chance.
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This chump wouldn't have a chance collecting back rent in front of Judge Judy. All accounts I have read or heard of the two biggest cases this year included extensive coverage of his own goals. I actually feel a smidgen of pity for you liberals that this guy so poorly represents your agenda at such a pivotal point of failure for overarching social change in this country.

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I recommend you read this...................

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Our Supreme Court’s hearing on Arizona’s disingenuous immigration law is an example. You will hear many comments, explanations and excuses for this law, all of which skirt the central issue: Arizona’s bigots don’t like Mexicans. Period.
Think of the words used to describe illegal immigrants. “Rapid population growth and demographic transformation, downward pressure on wages, the burgeoning crime wave, deteriorating public services and increasing tax-payer burden.” I cut and pasted from a “reasonable,” anti-immigrant web site. The South knows these deceptive words well. They were used to describe the “nigras” of yesteryear.
What is the difference between a legal immigrant and an illegal immigrant? A piece of paper. Nothing more. Otherwise, they look the same. They act the same. They have the same traditions and mores. Undocumented aliens are no more likely to commit a crime than documented, in fact, less likely. They pay taxes, just like the legals, and they aren’t stealing jobs. They create jobs by being consumers. They came here to create a better life — just as your parents did.
There simply is no meaningful difference between an illegal immigrant and a legal immigrant. The lives of Arizona citizens are not affected by the legality or illegality of any immigrant.
The laws on immigration are not like other laws. They are not based on real harm to other people. They are an exclusionary effort by xenophobes, who were lucky enough to have their citizenship, and now invent excuses for why others shouldn’t enjoy the same benefits. It’s what the British term, ‘I’m all right, Jack.”
The legality of an immigrant is just an arbitrary definition that has no effect on you, me or on any other citizen. A change in the law could make all those illegal immigrants, legal tomorrow. How would that change the life of any Arizona citizen? Not at all. Our archaic immigration laws require years and years of jumping through hoops, but serve no useful function for our society. There is no valid reason why a person cannot become a citizen in just a few months.
And, now comes Supreme Court Justice Scalia with the rest of his notorious band. You remember, Justice Scalia, he of the strictly interpreted Constitution (i.e. “I don’t care about people. I only care about 18th century law.”) This is the strict interpreter who presumably would vote for slavery, because our founders had slaves.
During the hearing, he asked sarcastically:
“The state has no power to close its borders to people who have no right to be there?” And, “What does ‘sovereignty’ mean if it does not include the ability to defend your borders?” And, “Are you objecting to harassing the people who have no business being here? Surely you’re not concerned about harassing them.” And, “We have to enforce our laws in a manner that will please Mexico?”
Ah, the innocence of his “reasonable” questions. Why of course a state can close and defend its borders. We see it all the time — those gates and guards on every road between states — don’t we? And no, we don’t have to please Mexico; we can act like the boorish, bullying gringos the rest of the Americas thinks we are.
His “reasonable” comments remind one of another reasonable idea from yesterday: “separate-but-equal.” Bigotry gets its power from “reasonable” people.
This 2nd worst Justice, on one of the truly inferior Supreme Courts in history, tells us he is oh-so-concerned about Arizona’s ability to defend itself and it’s borders. Indiana, in the center of our country, has a similar law. Do they also need to “defend” their borders? Perhaps from Tennessee?

While Scalia is our 2nd worst Justice, he is not alone in his exercise in bigotry and truculence. I predict many on the Supreme Court will assume police have sufficient clairvoyance to determine just by looking, whether a person is illegal, so that without evidence or warrant, they can demand proof of citizenship.
–Institutionalized bigotry and reasonable people.
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Of course, no one blonde and blue-eyed will be interrogated.

This court that gave us Citizens United (because money doesn’t buy elections) and Bush v. Gore (because states’ rights, which suddenly have become important, were meaningless, then) now aches to besmirch its already shameful legacy with yet another outrageous decision.
I predict this Court, with its young, activist (yes, activist) justices, will continue eroding our human and civil rights, and in the future, the Lazarlus poem on Statue of Liberty America will be lost to memory.

Apparently, it already is.

I award Justice Scalia two traitor images.
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Hey Hey now, I had to jump in, no need to deface Judge Judy here - she is awesome! Like a hot arss firecracker on a blazing hot iron skillet!
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QuoteOriginally posted by mikemike Quote
This chump wouldn't have a chance collecting back rent in front of Judge Judy. All accounts I have read or heard of the two biggest cases this year included extensive coverage of his own goals. I actually feel a smidgen of pity for you liberals that this guy so poorly represents your agenda at such a pivotal point of failure for overarching social change in this country.
I am also not overwhelmed with his performance at oral argument, but that is a silly overstatement which does not reflect much understanding of the appellate process. While getting the public attention, oral argument is not where most of the work is done. It has become more of a venue for sparring among the justices, and I have not heard that the challenge to Mr. Verrilli has come from the vastly superior lawyering of the opposing counsel--more the opposing judge. BTW, his resume is pretty impressive, and he was confirmed with overwhelming GOP support, but perhaps the tone of the SCOTUS has changed since his time as a law clerk there.

I wouldn't wish the experience of arguing against a determined Justice Scalia, on any lawyer. "All accounts" are that he has thrown the appearance of impartiality out the window. You can't meet behind closed doors with the Tea Party caucus and then rip into their opponents with this kind of zeal without some serious questions.

If you want to get some idea of the challenge, think about having the spirited debates we have here with the person who has the opposing viewpoint being one of the deciders, and something big riding on the decision.

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