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MRRiley · 06-01-2012, 04:52 AM

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Red Tape - 'First Amendment rights can be terminated': When cops, cameras don't mix

Some of these guys just don't get it... fortunately this one's bosses do "get it" because the photographer he arrested was released within minutes with no charges filed.

Mike

kenafein · 06-01-2012, 05:51 AM

Law abiding citizens should have nothing to fear from the police. It is unfortunate we have so many sociopaths, drunk with power, 'protecting' us. They do other officers a disservice. A good cop should want everything recorded, while on duty. It protects everyone involved.

séamuis · 06-01-2012, 07:23 AM

im not surprised at all that this happened in chicago. not surprised at all.

Medium FormatPro · 06-01-2012, 11:12 AM

Originally posted by kenafein

Law abiding citizens should have nothing to fear from the police

Tell that to the dozens of women and children (also a majority of the adult men there as well) that lived in Waco when the FBI, ATF, and others opened fire on the hourse there - first. But naturally it gets better - they burned a majority of them out as well weeks later - a few managed to escape. Te government justifiably settled with the survivors.

The Oklahoma federal building bomber was very much motivated by this issue; yet the united states governent massive dropped the ball on that one too. The people that cooperated were basically never caught.

IF one is ever confronted by police try best to do a few things, say and write nothing.

MRRiley · 06-01-2012, 11:29 AM

Originally posted by Medium FormatPro

Tell that to the dozens of women and children (also a majority of the adult men there as well) that lived in Waco when the FBI, ATF, and others opened fire on the hourse there - first. But naturally it gets better - they burned a majority of them out as well weeks later - a few managed to escape. Te government justifiably settled with the survivors.

The Oklahoma federal building bomber was very much motivated by this issue; yet the united states governent massive dropped the ball on that one too. The people that cooperated were basically never caught.

IF one is ever confronted by police try best to do a few things, say and write nothing.

kenafein did say "SHOULD HAVE NOTHING TO FEAR" not that they actually have nothing to fear. His statement is functionally correct. If you are a law abiding citizen you should not fear that the police will take any action against you. sadly the police usually live far below that standard.

Mike

**luftfluss** · 06-01-2012, 12:16 PM

Originally posted by Medium FormatPro

Tell that to the dozens of women and children (also a majority of the adult men there as well) that lived in Waco when the FBI, ATF, and others opened fire on the hourse there - first. But naturally it gets better - they burned a majority of them out as well weeks later - a few managed to escape. Te government justifiably settled with the survivors.

That's one side of the story.

**luftfluss** · 06-01-2012, 12:18 PM

Originally posted by kenafein

Law abiding citizens should have nothing to fear from the police. It is unfortunate we have so many sociopaths, drunk with power, 'protecting' us. They do other officers a disservice. A good cop should want everything recorded, while on duty. It protects everyone involved.

Sadly, there are thousands of examples that prove this.

**luftfluss** · 06-01-2012, 12:21 PM

In one respect, this cop is correct; your 1st Amendment Rights can be trumped by public safety concerns, the most oft-cited example being shouting "Fire!" in a crowded movie theater. Obviously nothing of that sort was happening in this video.

Jodokast96 · 06-01-2012, 12:35 PM

In a slightly related vein.

MILLER: Iraq vet brutalized over guns in D.C. - Washington Times

Be sure to check out part 2 as well.

kenafein · 06-01-2012, 01:17 PM

Originally posted by MRRiley

kenafein did say "SHOULD HAVE NOTHING TO FEAR" not that they actually have nothing to fear. His statement is functionally correct. If you are a law abiding citizen you should not fear that the police will take any action against you. sadly the police usually live far below that standard.

Mike

Precisely what I was implying. I really think everything should be documented, and officers should be held accountable if they deviate from protocol or law, or lie for that matter. An honest officer would also be protected if everything were recorded. It would protect them from false claims and accusations.

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06-01-2012, 05:51 AM	#2
kenafein Veteran Member Join Date: May 2011 Location: Southern California Photos: Albums Posts: 4,082	Law abiding citizens should have nothing to fear from the police. It is unfortunate we have so many sociopaths, drunk with power, 'protecting' us. They do other officers a disservice. A good cop should want everything recorded, while on duty. It protects everyone involved.

06-01-2012, 07:23 AM	#3
séamuis Banned Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Savannah, U.S./Baguio City, P.H. Posts: 5,979	im not surprised at all that this happened in chicago. not surprised at all.

06-01-2012, 11:12 AM	#4
Medium FormatPro Banned Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Charleston & Pittsburgh Photos: Albums Posts: 1,668	Originally posted by kenafein Law abiding citizens should have nothing to fear from the police Tell that to the dozens of women and children (also a majority of the adult men there as well) that lived in Waco when the FBI, ATF, and others opened fire on the hourse there - first. But naturally it gets better - they burned a majority of them out as well weeks later - a few managed to escape. Te government justifiably settled with the survivors. The Oklahoma federal building bomber was very much motivated by this issue; yet the united states governent massive dropped the ball on that one too. The people that cooperated were basically never caught. IF one is ever confronted by police try best to do a few things, say and write nothing.

06-01-2012, 11:29 AM	#5
MRRiley Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Sterling, VA, USA Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 6,275 Original Poster	Originally posted by Medium FormatPro Tell that to the dozens of women and children (also a majority of the adult men there as well) that lived in Waco when the FBI, ATF, and others opened fire on the hourse there - first. But naturally it gets better - they burned a majority of them out as well weeks later - a few managed to escape. Te government justifiably settled with the survivors. The Oklahoma federal building bomber was very much motivated by this issue; yet the united states governent massive dropped the ball on that one too. The people that cooperated were basically never caught. IF one is ever confronted by police try best to do a few things, say and write nothing. kenafein did say "SHOULD HAVE NOTHING TO FEAR" not that they actually have nothing to fear. His statement is functionally correct. If you are a law abiding citizen you should not fear that the police will take any action against you. sadly the police usually live far below that standard. Mike

06-01-2012, 12:16 PM	#6
luftfluss Site Supporter Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: NJ Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 11,629	Originally posted by Medium FormatPro Tell that to the dozens of women and children (also a majority of the adult men there as well) that lived in Waco when the FBI, ATF, and others opened fire on the hourse there - first. But naturally it gets better - they burned a majority of them out as well weeks later - a few managed to escape. Te government justifiably settled with the survivors. That's one side of the story.

06-01-2012, 12:18 PM	#7
luftfluss Site Supporter Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: NJ Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 11,629	Originally posted by kenafein Law abiding citizens should have nothing to fear from the police. It is unfortunate we have so many sociopaths, drunk with power, 'protecting' us. They do other officers a disservice. A good cop should want everything recorded, while on duty. It protects everyone involved. Sadly, there are thousands of examples that prove this.

06-01-2012, 12:21 PM	#8
luftfluss Site Supporter Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: NJ Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 11,629	In one respect, this cop is correct; your 1st Amendment Rights can be trumped by public safety concerns, the most oft-cited example being shouting "Fire!" in a crowded movie theater. Obviously nothing of that sort was happening in this video.

06-01-2012, 12:35 PM	#9
Jodokast96 Veteran Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Erial, NJ USA Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 2,134	In a slightly related vein. MILLER: Iraq vet brutalized over guns in D.C. - Washington Times Be sure to check out part 2 as well.

06-01-2012, 01:17 PM	#10
kenafein Veteran Member Join Date: May 2011 Location: Southern California Photos: Albums Posts: 4,082	Originally posted by MRRiley kenafein did say "SHOULD HAVE NOTHING TO FEAR" not that they actually have nothing to fear. His statement is functionally correct. If you are a law abiding citizen you should not fear that the police will take any action against you. sadly the police usually live far below that standard. Mike Precisely what I was implying. I really think everything should be documented, and officers should be held accountable if they deviate from protocol or law, or lie for that matter. An honest officer would also be protected if everything were recorded. It would protect them from false claims and accusations.

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