Kodak...how will it end?

slackercruster · 07-12-2012, 02:39 PM

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Any opinions as to how Kodak will end up?

twitch · 07-12-2012, 03:57 PM

I fear for the future of Portra, Ektar & Tri-X films. I hope they will continue even if Kodak doesn't, but after what happened following the Polariod bankruptcy (decades of instant film emulsion know-how gone, Impossible Project having to reverse engineer everything) I have no confidence those Kodak emulsions will be with us much longer. I hope I'm wrong.

Ratmagiclady · 07-13-2012, 07:07 PM

Hopefully, a profitable film-and chemical-maker for a largely self motivated film market just like they started. Just cause they're a lousy digital camera company doesn't mean they didn't even get to be a name with ...providing simpler stuff for half a century for a.....specialty market?

Clicker · 07-13-2012, 07:14 PM

Polaroid is making a comeback...somewhat, i still see a few guys shoot large format and using Kodak film and paper and chemicals some have stockpiled while looking at Fujifilm alternatives for film ...

**luftfluss** · 07-13-2012, 07:49 PM

It will end with some old guy sitting in a chair, stroking a Persian cat, cashing checks from all of the Kodak patents.

slackercruster · 07-13-2012, 07:58 PM

Kodak films are priced way above Fuji and Ilford. Walmart only carries Fuji. I guess Kodak is at the supermarkets and drug stores. I haven't really looked.

Fuji, a film company, made some nice high grade dig cams over the years. Kodak, a film company, paid the Chinese to make cheap dig cams with their name on it. Kodak made high grade senors for dig cams but sold that biz off, from what I've heard. But, I don't hear much about Kodak these days. Seems they are selling everything they can off to raise $$. Yes, it would be nice if Kodak kept on as a smaller company preserving its film division.

Who would ever thought there would be such a big 2nd hand market for expired Kodak film?

http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_trksid=p5197.m570.l1313&_nkw=expired+kodak+film&_sacat=0

Ratmagiclady · 07-13-2012, 09:11 PM

Kodak needs to stop thinking like they're failing to be what they were in the late 80s' and start being the American Ilford. No one *cares* how they corporately compete, they need to sell stuff. They have the means.

slackercruster · 07-14-2012, 05:07 AM

American Ilford?

Don't know much about Ilfords health. But I used Ilford films back in the day and always loved the results.

jogiba · 07-14-2012, 05:34 AM

I still have a bunch of film in my freezer including Kodachrome 120 . I tested a few rolls of 20 year old Kodak 135 film and it still looks ok to me.

Clicker · 07-14-2012, 07:18 AM

There will be no more Kodak, they're selling off all they can...they're done end of story.

reeftool · 07-15-2012, 05:47 AM

Originally posted by Clicker

There will be no more Kodak, they're selling off all they can...they're done end of story.

I think you're right. At some point though the name will probably survive. Like Bell and Howell and Poloroid, they will be a brand name peddling cheap, foreign crap.

jogiba · 07-15-2012, 06:36 AM

Only old consumers know about Kodak and they will all be dead much sooner than the younger consumers who don't know about Kodak so the brand name is not worth much.

Quote:

Like Bell and Howell and Poloroid, they will be a brand name peddling cheap, foreign crap.

Right, like the US made DSLRs and iPads have much better quality.

**dadipentak** · 07-15-2012, 08:48 AM

Except the film and processing chemicals, there's nothing worth saving.

**luftfluss** · 07-15-2012, 09:22 AM

Originally posted by reeftool

I think you're right. At some point though the name will probably survive. Like Bell and Howell and Poloroid, they will be a brand name peddling cheap, foreign crap.

Sadly, that's what they did with the majority of their digital camera business.

**luftfluss** · 07-15-2012, 09:23 AM

Originally posted by dadipentak

Except the film and processing chemicals, there's nothing worth saving.

They do have some key patents, and get money from the likes of Mircosoft and Apple because of it.

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07-12-2012, 03:57 PM	#2
twitch Veteran Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 4,571	I fear for the future of Portra, Ektar & Tri-X films. I hope they will continue even if Kodak doesn't, but after what happened following the Polariod bankruptcy (decades of instant film emulsion know-how gone, Impossible Project having to reverse engineer everything) I have no confidence those Kodak emulsions will be with us much longer. I hope I'm wrong.

07-13-2012, 07:07 PM	#3
Ratmagiclady Veteran Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: GA Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 13,563	Hopefully, a profitable film-and chemical-maker for a largely self motivated film market just like they started. Just cause they're a lousy digital camera company doesn't mean they didn't even get to be a name with ...providing simpler stuff for half a century for a.....specialty market?

07-13-2012, 07:14 PM	#4
Clicker Veteran Member Join Date: May 2008 Photos: Gallery Posts: 3,241	Polaroid is making a comeback...somewhat, i still see a few guys shoot large format and using Kodak film and paper and chemicals some have stockpiled while looking at Fujifilm alternatives for film ...

07-13-2012, 07:49 PM	#5
luftfluss Site Supporter Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: NJ Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 11,626	It will end with some old guy sitting in a chair, stroking a Persian cat, cashing checks from all of the Kodak patents.

07-13-2012, 07:58 PM	#6
slackercruster Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: NE, USA Posts: 1,302 Original Poster	Kodak films are priced way above Fuji and Ilford. Walmart only carries Fuji. I guess Kodak is at the supermarkets and drug stores. I haven't really looked. Fuji, a film company, made some nice high grade dig cams over the years. Kodak, a film company, paid the Chinese to make cheap dig cams with their name on it. Kodak made high grade senors for dig cams but sold that biz off, from what I've heard. But, I don't hear much about Kodak these days. Seems they are selling everything they can off to raise $$. Yes, it would be nice if Kodak kept on as a smaller company preserving its film division. Who would ever thought there would be such a big 2nd hand market for expired Kodak film? http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_trksid=p5197.m570.l1313&_nkw=expired+kodak+film&_sacat=0

07-13-2012, 09:11 PM	#7
Ratmagiclady Veteran Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: GA Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 13,563	Kodak needs to stop thinking like they're failing to be what they were in the late 80s' and start being the American Ilford. No one cares how they corporately compete, they need to sell stuff. They have the means.

07-14-2012, 05:07 AM	#8
slackercruster Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: NE, USA Posts: 1,302 Original Poster	American Ilford? Don't know much about Ilfords health. But I used Ilford films back in the day and always loved the results.

07-14-2012, 05:34 AM	#9
jogiba Banned Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Millstone,NJ Posts: 6,491	I still have a bunch of film in my freezer including Kodachrome 120 . I tested a few rolls of 20 year old Kodak 135 film and it still looks ok to me.

07-14-2012, 07:18 AM	#10
Clicker Veteran Member Join Date: May 2008 Photos: Gallery Posts: 3,241	There will be no more Kodak, they're selling off all they can...they're done end of story.

07-15-2012, 05:47 AM	#11
reeftool Pentaxian Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Upstate New York Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 9,555	Originally posted by Clicker There will be no more Kodak, they're selling off all they can...they're done end of story. I think you're right. At some point though the name will probably survive. Like Bell and Howell and Poloroid, they will be a brand name peddling cheap, foreign crap.

07-15-2012, 06:36 AM	#12
jogiba Banned Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Millstone,NJ Posts: 6,491	Only old consumers know about Kodak and they will all be dead much sooner than the younger consumers who don't know about Kodak so the brand name is not worth much. Quote: Like Bell and Howell and Poloroid, they will be a brand name peddling cheap, foreign crap. Right, like the US made DSLRs and iPads have much better quality.

07-15-2012, 08:48 AM	#13
dadipentak Site Supporter Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Baltimore, Maryland Photos: Gallery Posts: 11,590	Except the film and processing chemicals, there's nothing worth saving.

07-15-2012, 09:22 AM	#14
luftfluss Site Supporter Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: NJ Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 11,626	Originally posted by reeftool I think you're right. At some point though the name will probably survive. Like Bell and Howell and Poloroid, they will be a brand name peddling cheap, foreign crap. Sadly, that's what they did with the majority of their digital camera business.

07-15-2012, 09:23 AM	#15
luftfluss Site Supporter Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: NJ Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 11,626	Originally posted by dadipentak Except the film and processing chemicals, there's nothing worth saving. They do have some key patents, and get money from the likes of Mircosoft and Apple because of it.